Democratic Primaries

Awsi Dooger

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14. We already had an example with Miami-area Hispanics last year

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 03:36 PM

Feb 2019

Gillum underperformed in Miami and it was widely forecast, due to the socialism tag and being endorsed by Bernie Sanders. Our primary voters apparently didn't consider that type of thing at all.

I live in a mostly Cuban neighborhood so it is extremely obvious to me. I started seeing DeSantis signs in yards that never sport political allegiance at all. The polls always looked good for Gillum so I hoped he could barely get there but I always knew the polls allowing a large lead for either Gillum or Nelson were bogus.

Here is an article I have posted several times:

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/article217956930.html

It is great this is being addressed now. The white non-college educated problem was already as glaring in early 2015 as socialism is now, but Hillary didn't seem to understand how ominous it was. I had to throw "Shattered" to the ground when the first 100 pages contained zero mention.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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The problem with 'Socialist' [View all] crazytown Feb 2019 OP

The 81% who do not have a positive opinion of 'Socialist' problem. NBC poll 2018 empedocles Feb 2019 #1

When Bernie explains it, it doesnt sound like socialist. honest.abe Feb 2019 #2

Bill Maher knows what it means. crazytown Feb 2019 #3

Bill Maher clearly does not understand what Socialism is... CrossingTheRubicon Feb 2019 #4

I disagree crazytown Feb 2019 #6

By that logic public fire departments (which displaced private one) and puplic schools (ditto).. CrossingTheRubicon Feb 2019 #8

Yes Fire Departments are Socialist. crazytown Feb 2019 #10

You have your own private definition of Socialism. former9thward Feb 2019 #37

I really don't. crazytown Feb 2019 #38

A real world example - the Atlee Goverment in Britain 1945 - crazytown Feb 2019 #39

By that same reasoning Lazy Daisy Feb 2019 #20

Because she is not one. honest.abe Feb 2019 #21

Bernie won't call himself a Social Democrat... SidDithers Feb 2019 #44

And there is a current example of a socialist dictatorship that is in a crisis: Venezuela. pnwmom Feb 2019 #5

And that is Exactly what the GOP want to pin on the Democrats. crazytown Feb 2019 #7

Especially since both Maduro and Chavez explicitly embarce(d) the Democratic Socialist ideology. CrossingTheRubicon Feb 2019 #9

I didn't know that. Thanks! pnwmom Feb 2019 #11

Here is DSA's statement on Venezuela (it's long), looks like they're firmly supporting Maduro: George II Feb 2019 #16

Any liberal Democrat who is on the fence about "Democratic Socialism"... CrossingTheRubicon Feb 2019 #25

We already had an example with Miami-area Hispanics last year Awsi Dooger Feb 2019 #14

I understand with Bernie, but why some other Dems are so eager to adopt that brand is beyond me. pnwmom Feb 2019 #18

If anyone were to look into the lifestyle of some of these so-called "democratic socialists".... George II Feb 2019 #29

It's 'Democratic Socialist' and 'Democratic Socialism' WordsMatter Feb 2019 #12

Welcome to D.U. WordsMatter. Uncle Joe Feb 2019 #15

Oh, thank-you very much! WordsMatter Feb 2019 #17

Yeah, words matter. And branding matters. And it's DUMB to adopt any brand with the word socialist pnwmom Feb 2019 #19

It's a branding issue for sure. And one just looks foolish when pointing to the Nordic Model... Garrett78 Feb 2019 #22

You make some valid points. But,... WordsMatter Feb 2019 #30

The Latinos we want in our coalition probably wouldn't be afraid of the term FDR Democrat, pnwmom Feb 2019 #31

Do these Latinos you speak of even know about FDR? WordsMatter Feb 2019 #35

Probably not. So they wouldn't be afraid of him. That's the point. It would mean something pnwmom Feb 2019 #36

Good question... WordsMatter Feb 2019 #40

Cuban refugees were much likely to vote for Trump than other Latinos. pnwmom Feb 2019 #41

I get a different take from the piece you linked to... WordsMatter Feb 2019 #43

The article is saying is that older Cubans, who had more memories of the regime, pnwmom Feb 2019 #45

Times have changed since the Cuban issue you referred to. Venezuela might be different. WordsMatter Feb 2019 #47

Words do matter. The definition you offered of Democrat Socialism is absurd. CrossingTheRubicon Feb 2019 #26

How so? WordsMatter Feb 2019 #32

welcome to DU gopiscrap Feb 2019 #48

Nice to be here! WordsMatter Feb 2019 #49

Short and succinct wins in politics, regardless of topic Awsi Dooger Feb 2019 #13

I stlll remember the Dingell-Norwood moment from the debate Politicub Feb 2019 #34

"socialist" will be to 2020 Blue_Tires Feb 2019 #23

I want a candidate who will say, "Cut the bullshit, I am not a socialist." marylandblue Feb 2019 #24

The first candidate who does so will gain +10 in the polls. CrossingTheRubicon Feb 2019 #27

Gallop shows Democrats viewing socialism more favorably than capitalism. CentralMass Feb 2019 #28

They should ask that question by ethnic group. Do we want to lose the Latino vote pnwmom Feb 2019 #33

As I mentioned before the dictator in Venezuela calls himself a Democratic Socialist. CrossingTheRubicon Feb 2019 #42

This is the only graph that matters if you want to win the general. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #46