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16. Here is DSA's statement on Venezuela (it's long), looks like they're firmly supporting Maduro:
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 03:48 PM
Feb 2019

DSA Statement on Venezuela
January 24, 2019
Stop Dangerous and Counterproductive US Intervention in Venezuela

Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) categorically opposes any and all efforts by the US government to intervene in the domestic politics of Venezuela. The US has a long and bloody track record of actions to overthrow democratically elected governments, stop the spread of socialism, and maintain US imperial dominance in the region. This includes the US government’s support of the 2002 Venezuelan coup that led to the temporary ouster of the legitimately-elected president of Venezuela, Hugo Chávez. These imperial interventions must stop immediately; the future of the Venezuelan people, and the broader prosperity of Latin America depend on it.

Venezuela is currently suffering devastating economic and political crises that have left millions without consistent access to basic goods and services, and in a state of perpetual insecurity. Inflation has reached astronomical levels, rendering the local currency practically valueless, and limiting the positive impact of regular minimum wage increases implemented by the Venezuelan government. In the wake of President Nicolás Maduro’s inauguration for a second term on January 10, the political situation has become still more dire.

Maduro’s inauguration was accompanied by claims from both the Venezuelan opposition as well as a host of governments in the region and beyond that, he is no longer the legitimately elected President of Venezuela. These claims are based on prior accusations that the May 2018 Venezuelan presidential election was marred by the government’s use of tactics that ensured Maduro’s victory in advance.

The newly-appointed leader of the opposition-controlled Venezuelan National Assembly, Juan Guaidó of the right-wing Voluntad Popular (Popular Will) party, used this legitimacy crisis as an opportunity to proclaim himself the acting President of Venezuela, and called upon the Venezuelan people to rise up in protest against the Maduro government. Many, including a small band of National Guard soldiers on January 22 (who were quickly suppressed by security forces), have heeded the call, leading to sustained protests across the country beginning on January 21.

Though there have been reports of repression on the part of the Venezuelan security forces (including the brief arrest of Guaidó himself outside Caracas) and property damage on the part of opposition protesters (including the arson of an important community center in Caracas), significant confrontations between government and opposition supporters have yet to materialize. Nor has there been any indication that top military leaders are planning to break with Maduro. Nonetheless, the situation remains extremely tense. Any small political miscalculation could provoke serious violence and chaos in the country.

The role of the United States government in this unfolding situation over the last two weeks has been substantial and extremely counterproductive. Its actions have served only to deepen political divisions and decrease the likelihood of a peaceful solution to the crisis. President Trump and Vice President Pence have both expressed their full support for the unelected Guaidó as acting President, and are working tirelessly to organize other nations to do the same. Further, Trump has stated that he is contemplating a military intervention in Venezuela, and the US National Security Council has indicated that it is strongly considering an embargo on Venezuelan oil imports to the United States. These actions would each have catastrophic consequences for the already suffering Venezuelan people. The US government is clearly more interested in using Venezuela as a boogeyman to show the dangers of socialism than in playing a constructive role in resolving the crisis. Unfortunately the consequences of this rhetorical posturing are all too real for the Venezuelan people.

The US government’s recent actions to destabilize Venezuela are only the most recent in a long series of unfortunate actions it has taken over the past several years. In addition to past reckless and worrying comments made by President Trump and other members of his administration about the need for foreign military intervention in Venezuela, the US government has imposed financial sanctions against Venezuela. These sanctions are putting further constraints on the importation of desperately needed food and medicine into Venezuela.

The sanctions also preclude Venezuelan firms from access to US credit, effectively eliminating the Venezuelan oil sector’s capacity to maintain current levels of production, let alone return to pre-2015 levels (which were more than twice as high as current levels). Given that Venezuela depends so heavily on oil exports to fund the importation of basic goods, the US government’s sanctions against Venezuela’s oil sector are tantamount to direct sanctions against the Venezuelan people, whose economic security grows more precarious by the week.

Both the increasingly top-down Venezuelan government as well as the fractious Venezuelan opposition, which has at times resorted to anti-democratic methods, bear significant responsibility for the current crisis and there are important critiques to be leveled against both. As US socialists, we have a duty to do everything we can to stop US imperialism and make the world safe for democracy and socialism; however, our role as an organization should not be to intervene in the internal politics of Venezuela. Instead, we have a responsibility to use the leverage we have to intervene strategically in US foreign policy to help the Venezuelan people defend the gains made during Hugo Chávez’s presidency.

To that end, we call upon the US government to immediately cease and desist all attempts to intervene in the internal politics of Venezuela and break with its shameful legacy of imperial control in the region. Further, we call upon DSA chapters and DSA supported political representatives to mobilize in this particularly critical moment around a campaign of solidarity with the Venezuelan people, aimed specifically at reversing the US government’s disastrous and counterproductive sanctions against Venezuela.

Solidarity with the people of Venezuela! Solidarity with the Bolivarian Revolution!

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The problem with 'Socialist' [View all] crazytown Feb 2019 OP
The 81% who do not have a positive opinion of 'Socialist' problem. NBC poll 2018 empedocles Feb 2019 #1
When Bernie explains it, it doesnt sound like socialist. honest.abe Feb 2019 #2
Bill Maher knows what it means. crazytown Feb 2019 #3
Bill Maher clearly does not understand what Socialism is... CrossingTheRubicon Feb 2019 #4
I disagree crazytown Feb 2019 #6
By that logic public fire departments (which displaced private one) and puplic schools (ditto).. CrossingTheRubicon Feb 2019 #8
Yes Fire Departments are Socialist. crazytown Feb 2019 #10
You have your own private definition of Socialism. former9thward Feb 2019 #37
I really don't. crazytown Feb 2019 #38
A real world example - the Atlee Goverment in Britain 1945 - crazytown Feb 2019 #39
By that same reasoning Lazy Daisy Feb 2019 #20
Because she is not one. honest.abe Feb 2019 #21
Bernie won't call himself a Social Democrat... SidDithers Feb 2019 #44
And there is a current example of a socialist dictatorship that is in a crisis: Venezuela. pnwmom Feb 2019 #5
And that is Exactly what the GOP want to pin on the Democrats. crazytown Feb 2019 #7
Especially since both Maduro and Chavez explicitly embarce(d) the Democratic Socialist ideology. CrossingTheRubicon Feb 2019 #9
I didn't know that. Thanks! pnwmom Feb 2019 #11
Here is DSA's statement on Venezuela (it's long), looks like they're firmly supporting Maduro: George II Feb 2019 #16
Any liberal Democrat who is on the fence about "Democratic Socialism"... CrossingTheRubicon Feb 2019 #25
We already had an example with Miami-area Hispanics last year Awsi Dooger Feb 2019 #14
I understand with Bernie, but why some other Dems are so eager to adopt that brand is beyond me. pnwmom Feb 2019 #18
If anyone were to look into the lifestyle of some of these so-called "democratic socialists".... George II Feb 2019 #29
It's 'Democratic Socialist' and 'Democratic Socialism' WordsMatter Feb 2019 #12
Welcome to D.U. WordsMatter. Uncle Joe Feb 2019 #15
Oh, thank-you very much! WordsMatter Feb 2019 #17
Yeah, words matter. And branding matters. And it's DUMB to adopt any brand with the word socialist pnwmom Feb 2019 #19
It's a branding issue for sure. And one just looks foolish when pointing to the Nordic Model... Garrett78 Feb 2019 #22
You make some valid points. But,... WordsMatter Feb 2019 #30
The Latinos we want in our coalition probably wouldn't be afraid of the term FDR Democrat, pnwmom Feb 2019 #31
Do these Latinos you speak of even know about FDR? WordsMatter Feb 2019 #35
Probably not. So they wouldn't be afraid of him. That's the point. It would mean something pnwmom Feb 2019 #36
Good question... WordsMatter Feb 2019 #40
Cuban refugees were much likely to vote for Trump than other Latinos. pnwmom Feb 2019 #41
I get a different take from the piece you linked to... WordsMatter Feb 2019 #43
The article is saying is that older Cubans, who had more memories of the regime, pnwmom Feb 2019 #45
Times have changed since the Cuban issue you referred to. Venezuela might be different. WordsMatter Feb 2019 #47
Words do matter. The definition you offered of Democrat Socialism is absurd. CrossingTheRubicon Feb 2019 #26
How so? WordsMatter Feb 2019 #32
welcome to DU gopiscrap Feb 2019 #48
Nice to be here! WordsMatter Feb 2019 #49
Short and succinct wins in politics, regardless of topic Awsi Dooger Feb 2019 #13
I stlll remember the Dingell-Norwood moment from the debate Politicub Feb 2019 #34
"socialist" will be to 2020 Blue_Tires Feb 2019 #23
I want a candidate who will say, "Cut the bullshit, I am not a socialist." marylandblue Feb 2019 #24
The first candidate who does so will gain +10 in the polls. CrossingTheRubicon Feb 2019 #27
Gallop shows Democrats viewing socialism more favorably than capitalism. CentralMass Feb 2019 #28
They should ask that question by ethnic group. Do we want to lose the Latino vote pnwmom Feb 2019 #33
As I mentioned before the dictator in Venezuela calls himself a Democratic Socialist. CrossingTheRubicon Feb 2019 #42
This is the only graph that matters if you want to win the general. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #46
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