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Bluepinky

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159. A few distortions, but okay.

Sun Oct 27, 2019, 09:32 AM

Oct 2019

He was the only candidate who significantly beat Trump in head to head polls but was treated unfairly by the DNC. A lot of his campaign issues ended up being endorsed by other Democrats and as part of the Democratic platform. Whether he calls himself an Independent, a Democrat, or a Democratic Socialist, his fight has always been against income inequality.

Just for the record, he has filed to run as a Democrat in the 2020 Presidential election. In his statements about the Russian sanctions, he was in favor of the sanctions against Russia but not those against Iran, which were in the same bill. He voted against the bill because sanctions against Iran were included in the same bill.

I can’t believe he’s still being trashed three years after the last election. He’s not my first choice this time around, but the more unfair criticism he gets, the more his supporters want to defend him. It’s not good to continue to sow discord. This is a divisive issue so why continue fighting it?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Bernie Sanders to black man: Be respectful so you won't get shot in the back of your head. [View all] WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2019 OP

My Dog, I hate this forum so f***ing much ... mr_lebowski Oct 2019 #1

LOL, I have a friend on here who describes this as 'that wretched hive of PatrickforO Oct 2019 #21

you must be wealthy then questionseverything Oct 2019 #25

Gosh, I could do without the snark, thank you. I was being genuine. If you don't like genuine, then PatrickforO Oct 2019 #26

i was being genuine questionseverything Oct 2019 #34

I think a poor black kid is more likely to have a bad run-in with a cop than a poor white kid. thesquanderer Oct 2019 #141

Indeed. I agree with that. PatrickforO Oct 2019 #217

i do not deny any of that questionseverything Oct 2019 #237

I am not wealthy and have never worried about the cops hack89 Oct 2019 #207

Yep. PatrickforO Oct 2019 #218

That is what Bernie should've said. Bringing up the spectre of the young man getting shot in the... brush Oct 2019 #85

He should have simply said that he wasn't equipped to answer that question, not being black himself. George II Oct 2019 #88

Had he said what you suggested he say... Bluepinky Oct 2019 #126

Well Bernie seems to have no problems bashing Dems, so that victim card is hollow. MrsCoffee Oct 2019 #133

+1 betsuni Oct 2019 #143

A few distortions, but okay. Bluepinky Oct 2019 #159

Excellent, MrsCoffee! Cha Oct 2019 #235

Thank you. KPN Oct 2019 #181

What an awful answer that would have been. thesquanderer Oct 2019 #142

why would come to a place that is 'that wretched hive of scum and villainy' ? stonecutter357 Oct 2019 #174

It's a joke. PatrickforO Oct 2019 #219

There are some videos out there where whites get shot treestar Oct 2019 #214

Pretty sure you can trash forums. cwydro Oct 2019 #51

I maybe could, but feel like I have to kinda 'keep an eye' on what's going on ... mr_lebowski Oct 2019 #59

'use this forum to build your candidate of choice' TwilightZone Oct 2019 #66

Good point. cwydro Oct 2019 #131

I doubt any political enemies care all that much redqueen Oct 2019 #155

Thank you. HerbChestnut Oct 2019 #92

+10000 Celerity Oct 2019 #121

I just read this on Twitter mcar Oct 2019 #2

I can't even................. George II Oct 2019 #3

Posting a stereotype gif of a comedic actor seems inappropriate and demeaning. bluewater Oct 2019 #13

That's your opinion. George II Oct 2019 #15

Indeed it is. bluewater Oct 2019 #16

No, it's not demeaning or inappropriate. Skya Rhen Oct 2019 #98

... sheshe2 Oct 2019 #106

They think it's funny RandiFan1290 Oct 2019 #138

I am no fan of Sanders but literally dozens and dozens dsc Oct 2019 #4

i am not black and i warn my kids the same way questionseverything Oct 2019 #6

What's wrong with it is that Sanders said it. thesquanderer Oct 2019 #14

Sadly, this is true. There are about ten people on here who genuinely loathe Sanders. PatrickforO Oct 2019 #24

A HUGE factor... in promoting so many progressive issues. Thankfully, most peeps InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #55

Have you ever heard of the Dingells, John Sr., John Jr., and Debbie? They started talking... George II Oct 2019 #87

What an absurdly irrelevant comment to make here. KPN Oct 2019 #183

Other than to post a gratuitous personal attack, what's your point? What's "ridiculous" about it? George II Oct 2019 #185

Quick edit I see. Here's what you originally said: "What a ridiculous comment." Why did you edit? George II Oct 2019 #186

Lol. No, quick response to a comment I see. KPN Oct 2019 #187

Well, since you responded to me the "My Posts" tab turns yellow, advising that I had a response. George II Oct 2019 #190

What IS relevant, if you followed the discussion, is that someone stated that thanks to.... George II Oct 2019 #189

We? That's not true. Some ... and actually not KPN Oct 2019 #192

Here's the statement to which I responded. Yes, it was stated "we"... George II Oct 2019 #195

Well, sure. Let's have a bit of history. In concept, a national health care plan dates clear back PatrickforO Oct 2019 #188

Thank you. I'm not sure of the full history, but the Dingells (John Sr. in particular) have been... George II Oct 2019 #191

I did not know that - about Dingell Sr. PatrickforO Oct 2019 #193

When looking for when Dingell first introduced his legislation, I found this: George II Oct 2019 #197

More about my "absurdly irrelevant comment" (see post #183), in addition to the Dingells.... George II Oct 2019 #205

Well...OK. I'm cool with that. I remember John Conyers. PatrickforO Oct 2019 #208

When I posted that, I hadn't heard the news today. John Conyers passed away this morning at age 90. George II Oct 2019 #209

Yes, rest in peace, John. The world is a better place because he lived, PatrickforO Oct 2019 #210

+1000! JoeOtterbein Oct 2019 #41

This. nt redqueen Oct 2019 #49

Ding! Ding! Ding! We hava winna!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #53

Lol. There is a contingent here who pretty much thinks he can say or do no wrong. MrsCoffee Oct 2019 #136

What advice would you have given? N/t TCJ70 Oct 2019 #148

Exactly. KPN Oct 2019 #182

I do, too... CozyMystery Oct 2019 #139

Get Home Safely: 10 Rules of Survival Uncle Joe Oct 2019 #5

... redqueen Oct 2019 #54

... Uncle Joe Oct 2019 #60

Where is the part about "getting shot in the back of the head"? lapucelle Oct 2019 #86

That's good advice for anyone treestar Oct 2019 #215

Black people are getting shot in their homes doing nothing! OldRed2450 Oct 2019 #7

Botham Jean mcar Oct 2019 #10

I didn't see any body excusing the cruel unwarranted deaths of black men ChubbyStar Oct 2019 #27

Really? mcar Oct 2019 #29

Nah, sorry didn't see any excuses ChubbyStar Oct 2019 #37

so you think the advise should be what? questionseverything Oct 2019 #17

The truth. OldRed2450 Oct 2019 #20

see if you think whites do not fear cops you are just wrong questionseverything Oct 2019 #22

The difference between whites and blacks is MASSIVE. OldRed2450 Oct 2019 #33

my neighborhood is very mixed questionseverything Oct 2019 #45

You cannot possibly be comparing mcar Oct 2019 #36

if 8 out of 10 murders by police are of blacks, how does that help the 2 white guys? questionseverything Oct 2019 #44

No! Not just like blacks do. OldRed2450 Oct 2019 #50

a huge part of the problem is hiring vets home from iraq/afganistan with ptsd questionseverything Oct 2019 #82

Nothing was going to stop Bush OldRed2450 Oct 2019 #84

obama didnt back bush.it wasn;t all democrats questionseverything Oct 2019 #91

That would be the kiss of death for a candidate. flor-de-jasmim Oct 2019 #129

yes, but when you are stopped by a cop, what do you do? CharleyDog Oct 2019 #32

The fact that getting pulled over is not the ONLY way to get shot is no reason not to have... thesquanderer Oct 2019 #144

That's another issue treestar Oct 2019 #216

:O Skittles Oct 2019 #8

Yes. Thank you. NurseJackie Oct 2019 #9

Don't bring on your own death, or rape mcar Oct 2019 #11

Better to learn how to behave so you don't get shot... thesquanderer Oct 2019 #145

You are saying that young black people don't know how to behave? mcar Oct 2019 #150

No, I am saying that being polite probably increases one's odds of survival. thesquanderer Oct 2019 #158

Lol. Sometimes people try too hard. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2019 #28

lol WTF ! stonecutter357 Oct 2019 #12

Good advice. Autumn Oct 2019 #18

it's the inference that courtesy alone is the root of the problem Skittles Oct 2019 #30

I've taught that to my grandson, he doesn't have to mean it, he just has to pretend. nt Autumn Oct 2019 #35

I am always extremely polite to police Skittles Oct 2019 #43

"Driving While Brown" is an issue. nt Autumn Oct 2019 #47

yes Skittles Oct 2019 #58

It had been addressed time and again and our children still die. Politenes has nothing to do with it Autumn Oct 2019 #62

There is no inference that courtesy is the root of the problem. thesquanderer Oct 2019 #147

it is more about not giving the cop an "excuse" questionseverything Oct 2019 #238

Tell Philando Castile mcar Oct 2019 #39

Exactly DesertRat Oct 2019 #100

This message was self-deleted by its author DesertRat Oct 2019 #101

That's not bad advice... Mike Nelson Oct 2019 #19

What's wrong with that advice? TheFarseer Oct 2019 #23

it's the inference that courtesy alone is the root of the problem Skittles Oct 2019 #31

Thank you! That was a bullshit answer. tulipsandroses Oct 2019 #67

Your "better answer" is not an answer to the question. TCJ70 Oct 2019 #76

I doubt this young man was looking for fatherly advice tulipsandroses Oct 2019 #80

So you're upset Bernie didn't answer a question he wasn't asked. TCJ70 Oct 2019 #81

Then why did he ask this? ChubbyStar Oct 2019 #83

Thank you for this post mcar Oct 2019 #95

+1 betsuni Oct 2019 #103

The problem was not in telling him to act respectful -- it was this part: pnwmom Oct 2019 #38

People are willing to defend or ignore every tone deaf thing Bernie says dansolo Oct 2019 #130

It's common sense to behave respectfully around a cop with a gun. thesquanderer Oct 2019 #151

This response reminds me of my kids TheFarseer Oct 2019 #200

Philando Castile is what is wrong with that advice mcar Oct 2019 #42

I found the "so you won't get shot in the back of your head" to be very interesting. Autumn Oct 2019 #48

Tamir Rice would like a word mcar Oct 2019 #56

Not a damn thing!! Good for Bernie!! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #57

I feel like this question was a set up agalisgv Oct 2019 #40

I hope the kid that asked the question doesn't get doxxed. OldRed2450 Oct 2019 #52

Biden got a similar question mcar Oct 2019 #149

It doesn't matter. Anything Bernie said would be criticized. vsrazdem Oct 2019 #46

aw, because he is such a victim Skittles Oct 2019 #71

No because I read this board and it never fails. vsrazdem Oct 2019 #97

Be polite to ANYONE who has a gun 4139 Oct 2019 #61

Again, Tamir Rice would like a word mcar Oct 2019 #63

And those are policing problems. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2019 #201

Here's a way Bernie could have answered that effectively. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2019 #64

Thank you. Somebody that gets it! tulipsandroses Oct 2019 #78

Exactly loyalsister Oct 2019 #114

Excellent response. brer cat Oct 2019 #125

But that doesn't answer the question he was asked! (n/t) thesquanderer Oct 2019 #152

I'm a fan of white people punting on giving advice to black people and POC about moving through WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2019 #171

OTOH, the problem with "punting" is... thesquanderer Oct 2019 #177

Yeah, "punting" is a poor choice of word. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2019 #178

Recognizing something bad exists is important. Recognizing it does not legitimize it. thesquanderer Oct 2019 #179

I don't believe Sanders did so effectively in his answer. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2019 #180

Inherently, recognizing something does not mean the same thing as legitimizing it. thesquanderer Oct 2019 #184

Being respectful is not bad advice. cwydro Oct 2019 #65

Does he really think that all the black men and women mcar Oct 2019 #68

Exactly Me. Oct 2019 #102

He didn't say that. He did say that being polite can help you survive. Different. (n/t) thesquanderer Oct 2019 #153

... mcar Oct 2019 #154

So your point is that instead of "so you won't get shot" he should have said... thesquanderer Oct 2019 #160

What advice would you give? N/t TCJ70 Oct 2019 #156

I'm not a presidential candidate mcar Oct 2019 #157

Didn't realize you had to be one to answer a question TCJ70 Oct 2019 #161

I wouldn't presume that a young black man would not be respectful mcar Oct 2019 #167

But if asked for advice, what would you say? Be disrespectful? N/t TCJ70 Oct 2019 #168

What a silly question mcar Oct 2019 #199

Oh jeezus Lunabell Oct 2019 #69

No Sanders fan. But if you watch the video, I think he's giving good advice and he is ashamed Hoyt Oct 2019 #70

Thank you. Lucky Luciano Oct 2019 #79

At least he didn't remind everyone again that he was at the March on Washington and saw MLK. betsuni Oct 2019 #72

Sounds like a strong criticism and indictment of the police forces of the USA by Bernie. Lucky Luciano Oct 2019 #73

What's the correct answer, those who are upset by this? TCJ70 Oct 2019 #74

I took a stab in post 64. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2019 #89

But that's not an answer to the question asked. TCJ70 Oct 2019 #90

I'm a fan of white people punting on giving advice to black people and POC about moving through WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2019 #170

EVERYONE READ THIS PERSONS RESPONSE. TCJ70 Oct 2019 #172

This was a truly horrible response by sanders Gothmog Oct 2019 #75

Biden didn't answer the question. He changed it. TCJ70 Oct 2019 #77

the idea that biden is gonna wave a majic wand and fix it is bs too questionseverything Oct 2019 #94

SSSSHHHHHH.....the record player shall not be mentioned ChubbyStar Oct 2019 #96

If Bernie had answered the way Biden did, he wouldn't be getting rightfully flamed on social media. Skya Rhen Oct 2019 #109

Sure he would. The complaint would have been that he... TCJ70 Oct 2019 #122

Why use the word pander? You know exactly what he meant, which is that it is less likely a white emmaverybo Oct 2019 #112

The question didn't include anything about being pulled over... TCJ70 Oct 2019 #123

I assumed it did or the questioner would have stated the circumstances, However, does not change emmaverybo Oct 2019 #198

How many of those white kids.. sheshe2 Oct 2019 #113

What advice would you have given the questioner? N/t TCJ70 Oct 2019 #124

Here is Biden's full answer Gothmog Oct 2019 #203

Does Joe not realize a white man can have a black daughter? aidbo Oct 2019 #212

See, if you're nice to the police officer, he might shoot you in the chest instead Clash City Rocker Oct 2019 #93

And if you're REAL nice. . . Hunt 4 Blue November Oct 2019 #99

And then you might get an open casket funeral. That's better, right? LenaBaby61 Oct 2019 #127

+1 betsuni Oct 2019 #128

Ugh! DesertRat Oct 2019 #104

Oh no. He really said that? dewsgirl Oct 2019 #105

here DesertRat Oct 2019 #107

Yikes! dewsgirl Oct 2019 #108

Interesting comments in that thread. betsuni Oct 2019 #110

Mahalo, DR.. 2 more tweets on that thread.. Cha Oct 2019 #111

Yikes DesertRat Oct 2019 #118

I remember these clips Gothmog Oct 2019 #119

Well, well, well... very interesting background info. NurseJackie Oct 2019 #134

It sure Does, Jackie! Cha Oct 2019 #234

Two things. TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #115

"Bernie Sanders: Be respectful..." myohmy2 Oct 2019 #116

If he'd left out the part about getting shot in the back of the head, his answer would've been fine MustLoveBeagles Oct 2019 #117

Is there a DU rule against thread titles this misleading? NT Eric J in MN Oct 2019 #120

SMDH n/t PhoenixDem Oct 2019 #132

Post removed Post removed Oct 2019 #135

Last person I would take advice from on being respectful. MrsCoffee Oct 2019 #137

What an odd and inappropriate response. honest.abe Oct 2019 #140

What advice would you give? N/t TCJ70 Oct 2019 #146

How about leave off the comment about being shot in the back of the head. honest.abe Oct 2019 #162

But that's not the advice, is it? N/t TCJ70 Oct 2019 #163

But that's what makes it inappropriate and odd. honest.abe Oct 2019 #164

Not really. I bet parents all over this country say it... TCJ70 Oct 2019 #165

"Be nice or get shot" ?? honest.abe Oct 2019 #166

What would you say? Lay it out. You still haven't done that. N/t TCJ70 Oct 2019 #169

The first part of what he said is fine... honest.abe Oct 2019 #173

So you'd give the same advice. Got it. N/t TCJ70 Oct 2019 #175

No. honest.abe Oct 2019 #176

Oh brother! More Bernie hate. I don't get it and. KPN Oct 2019 #194

"..the usual suspects..."? REALLY? George II Oct 2019 #204

really KPN Oct 2019 #211

Repeating Bernie's own words is "Bernie hate?" ehrnst Oct 2019 #222

In Bernie's case. There is no question that KPN Oct 2019 #223

A certain portion of Bernie supporters believe that any dissent is an "attack" or "hate." ehrnst Oct 2019 #224

I do understand being disturbed over his criticisms of the party. I'm not sure I would call them KPN Oct 2019 #227

He's running on a Democratic Party ticket. ehrnst Oct 2019 #229

It's not popular here, but I am pro-ass kissing to cops Polybius Oct 2019 #196

Biden's answer was superior to sanders response Gothmog Oct 2019 #202

Out of touch old white guy answer. Afromania Oct 2019 #206

Of all the responses and explanations posted in reply... NurseJackie Oct 2019 #213

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2019 #226

Here is how Joe Biden answered the same question: George II Oct 2019 #220

So how, exactly, is Biden going to end systemic racism? Cuthbert Allgood Oct 2019 #228

I am not surprised in the least. (nt) ehrnst Oct 2019 #221

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2019 #225

Welcome to DU! radical noodle Oct 2019 #230

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2019 #231

I'm not black and I'll react as I believe appropriate. Hortensis Oct 2019 #232

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2019 #233

CNN-Racism, Bernie Sanders and the limits of 'respect' Gothmog Oct 2019 #236