Democratic Primaries

TheBlackAdder

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32. Folks fail to remember: Jill Stein got 1.4M votes, while Gary Johnson took 4.4 Million from Trump.

Wed Oct 30, 2019, 11:47 PM

Oct 2019

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If neither of these two ran, Trump could have possibly received an extra 3 million votes.

Tulsi seems to attract right-leaning independents who would probably never vote for Biden.

The Democratic Primary winner cannot make the same mistake of 2016. They must learn from 1980 and 2016.

In 1980, Ronald Reagan & GHWB hated each other. I mean they fucking hated each other to the point where the Republican party was more fractured than the Democratic groups of 2016. Yet, Reagan chose GHWB as the VP pick which coalesced the party. The 2020 Democratic Presidential nominee MUST pick a leading contender as their VP pick to rejoin the fissures of the primary run. This way, they would be able to overcome any GOP and Russian fuckery.

Note: This is not rehashing 2016. This is applied Poli-Sci strategy from University Honors courses.

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If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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I actually hope Gabbards runs 3rd-party [View all] scheming daemons Oct 2019 OP

Yup. LaurenOlimina Oct 2019 #1

Folks fail to remember: Jill Stein got 1.4M votes, while Gary Johnson took 4.4 Million from Trump. TheBlackAdder Oct 2019 #32

Do you want Democrats to lose again? W_HAMILTON Oct 2019 #2

How would her running hurt Democrats? scheming daemons Oct 2019 #4

Not true. If Warren is nominated, for example, some Democrats will vote for someone who looks more Nitram Oct 2019 #7

Gabbard isn't "middle of the road"... and will get no votes that would've gone Dem scheming daemons Oct 2019 #20

Gabbard is running against the establishment "Clinton wing" of the party, not the left. thesquanderer Oct 2019 #39

I literally just laid out an entire post explaining it. W_HAMILTON Oct 2019 #12

And what you laid out is false scheming daemons Oct 2019 #21

That's your (completely incorrect) opinion. W_HAMILTON Oct 2019 #43

As a long time independent/third party voter SterlingPound Oct 2019 #52

She has some Democratic support here, so I would not be so sure. hlthe2b Oct 2019 #35

Trashing thread JonLP24 Oct 2019 #3

So you actually like Gabbard? scheming daemons Oct 2019 #5

Many Bernie supporters radical noodle Oct 2019 #6

If Bernie supporters like Tulsi they are severely deluded. She is way to the right of Sanders. Nitram Oct 2019 #8

Yes I'm deluded JonLP24 Oct 2019 #11

I'd be sincerely interested to know how the Iraq War has influenced your decision, Jon. Nitram Oct 2019 #13

A lot of the right wing support outside of libertarians with similar FP views JonLP24 Oct 2019 #16

You hate most Democrats? radical noodle Oct 2019 #14

No I didn't say I hate any Democrats JonLP24 Oct 2019 #17

Nevertheless, you spoke of Democrats as separate entities from yourself. NNadir Oct 2019 #18

I voted for Democrats my entire life over voting age and I am a registered Democrat JonLP24 Oct 2019 #23

Well, I always vote for Democrats. NNadir Oct 2019 #24

So do I. I don't know how many times I have to state I voted for Democrats JonLP24 Oct 2019 #25

Supporting the "New Green Deal" is not... NNadir Oct 2019 #41

Bill Nye is known for science as well and he endorses the green new deal JonLP24 Oct 2019 #42

Bill Nye is a celebrity and not a primary research scientist. NNadir Oct 2019 #46

I don't watch him on TV JonLP24 Oct 2019 #48

Well I am a scientist. As such... NNadir Oct 2019 #50

I have no reason to think he won't seek out advice from experts JonLP24 Oct 2019 #53

I do. He's an old man who has NEVER spoken to a scientific expert. It's a clear as day. NNadir Nov 2019 #56

Your climate change beef with Sanders is because he is against nuclear power. thesquanderer Oct 2019 #36

Yes, both statements are true. NNadir Oct 2019 #55

Ah, I misunderstood your comment radical noodle Oct 2019 #19

She is close to Sanders on most issues. In 2016, she even resigned her DNC position... thesquanderer Oct 2019 #38

I don't want to get into a flame war over this JonLP24 Oct 2019 #10

I wish she would too. roody Oct 2019 #9

She is lots of things. scheming daemons Oct 2019 #22

Muffled laugh. Nt BootinUp Oct 2019 #27

Double Muffed Laugh LovingA2andMI Oct 2019 #31

Gabbard could get stein voters that helped get trump rigged in.. Cha Oct 2019 #15

I guess she could run 3rd party in some states, but not all. CaptainTruth Oct 2019 #26

Post removed Post removed Oct 2019 #28

Tulsi is not... Mike Nelson Oct 2019 #29

I recced because it's an interesting thought, but BootinUp Oct 2019 #30

I'm so sick of hearing about this person. redqueen Oct 2019 #33

"The 2% of Democrats who support her were *NEVER* going to vote for the Democratic nominee" Devil Child Oct 2019 #34

re: "A recent poll showed that she has the support of ...27% of Republicans." thesquanderer Oct 2019 #37

She won't run third-party if the polls show her hurting Trump Stuy Oct 2019 #40

And by she, you mean Putin robbedvoter Oct 2019 #45

Well Stuy Oct 2019 #47

3rd party have a long history of enabling 🐀🔩ing robbedvoter Oct 2019 #44

Repubs aren't voting for her ass in a million years.... Blue_Tires Oct 2019 #49

Don't underestimate her capacity to create mayhem on purpose. mahina Oct 2019 #51

Totally on board with Tulsi running 3rd party. Aaron Pereira Oct 2019 #54