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Fri Mar 22, 2019, 02:44 AM

JonLP24 (27,472 posts)

33. This is where I based my comment off of

‘Weaker candidate than Hillary’: Democrats cast deep doubt on Biden’s 2020 value

Joe Biden is everything a Democratic political consultant should love: He’s experienced, well-liked, and his poll numbers look great against Donald Trump.

And yet many party strategists have a bleak assessment of his potential 2020 campaign: It’s a bad, bad idea.

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Strikingly, these conversations yielded a similar view: The Democratic political community is more broadly and deeply pessimistic about Biden’s potential candidacy than is commonly known. While these strategists said they respect Biden, they cited significant disadvantages for his campaign — from the increasingly liberal and non-white Democratic electorate to policy baggage from his years in the Senate and a field of rivals that includes new, fresh-faced candidates.

“Among political professionals, there are deep concerns because we know the history,” said a Pennsylvania-based Democratic strategist, granted anonymity to speak candidly about a party elder. “We have reason to be skeptical of the hype.”

“We heard it with Hillary, and we saw it happened,” the source added. “And there’s a lot of reason to think he would wind up a significantly weaker candidate than Hillary.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/campaigns/article226007090.html

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321 replies	Author	Time	Post
I believe that Sanders is not electable. You can argue, but this is true [View all]	Stuart G	Mar 2019	OP
If Sanders is the nominee I will unite behind him 100%.	mobeau69	Mar 2019	#1
:) No worry we'd have to gird our loins for that.	Hortensis	Mar 2019	#72
don't be so sure - it's our nightmare scenario....	getagrip_already	Mar 2019	#114
I never vote in a primary with my heart. I have always voted for the primary candidate	Autumn	Mar 2019	#125
not fear...	getagrip_already	Mar 2019	#127
I always vote wisely. I vote for the Democratic candidate in the primary who best	Autumn	Mar 2019	#129
Me too. And then I enthusiastically get behind the eventual nominee	emulatorloo	Mar 2019	#186
:) Mine either, but they all share my principles	Hortensis	Mar 2019	#201
Yes that's what we do. The end game is to put the Democrat in office.	Autumn	Mar 2019	#207
Yes debates are key for me as well	emulatorloo	Mar 2019	#208
Same to you.	Autumn	Mar 2019	#212
I'm a head-over-heart kind of gal. ALWAYS.	calimary	Mar 2019	#221
one question that comes to mind	G_j	Mar 2019	#236
You have a right to express your opinion but Your stats on how Sanders supporters voted are bizarre.	hedda_foil	Mar 2019	#131
...	lapucelle	Mar 2019	#154
...	lapucelle	Mar 2019	#155
Thank you. I stand corrected.	hedda_foil	Mar 2019	#161
NP	lapucelle	Mar 2019	#215
Jill Stein is now officially the Ralph Nader of 2016.	Cha	Mar 2019	#172
Jill Stein wasn't the only one who tried to convince voters that Trump and HRC were both "evil". N/T	lapucelle	Mar 2019	#219
Yep.	calimary	Mar 2019	#224
That's right.. she	Cha	Mar 2019	#234
BOOM!	calimary	Mar 2019	#223
Misogyny pure and simple	Dream Girl	May 2019	#302
Those were the republicans Bernie won over that went back to the repub candidate	onit2day	Mar 2019	#192
Do you have a link with stats showing that BS to Trump voters were mostly Republicans?	lapucelle	Mar 2019	#214
That is pure speculation. Bernie has nothing to do with Stein and worked hard to get dems elected	onit2day	Mar 2019	#187
talk about revisionist history..	getagrip_already	Mar 2019	#237
Too bad what it "sounds like" to you.. BS is ..	Cha	Mar 2019	#250
BS hired 3 stein voters for	Cha	May 2019	#299
I don't think winning the primary	BlueFlorida	Mar 2019	#240
Guess that's why he leads in all the polls, why polls showed him beating Trump	onit2day	Mar 2019	#177
You are relying on polls in a hypothetical matchup	TexasTowelie	Mar 2019	#200
Hypothetical matchups n/t	BlueFlorida	Mar 2019	#241
NO he Does NOT.	Cha	Mar 2019	#251
THIS!!!! +1,000	InAbLuEsTaTe	Apr 2019	#280
With less than 30% support in the party, sanders is not electable	Gothmog	Apr 2019	#282
True story	musicman65	May 2019	#290
sanders is polling far below 30%now	Gothmog	May 2019	#291
So what you're saying is	Lazy Daisy	Mar 2019	#2
I know right?	Hassin Bin Sober	Mar 2019	#3
I will support the nominee of the party	Gothmog	Mar 2019	#9
Yes, unlike much of Sanders' top campaign staffers, we'll vote for the DEMOCRATIC nominee.	George II	Mar 2019	#90
And.	sheshe2	Mar 2019	#12
The terms of service for DU members state that they can be banned if they discourage other members	TexasTowelie	Mar 2019	#24
Exactly this	LongtimeAZDem	Mar 2019	#77
Because E. Warren would be vice president and Bernie believes He is best candidate& wants the job	onit2day	Mar 2019	#191
It's far more likely that a Sanders/Warren would be a disaster.	TexasTowelie	Mar 2019	#199
Doesn't that appear to be the primary goal	BlueFlorida	Mar 2019	#242
For the same reason people want Joe Biden. We like the policies!!!	vsrazdem	Mar 2019	#252
So if Sanders loses	Trumpocalypse	Apr 2019	#274
How can sanders win key primaries with no support from African American voters?	Gothmog	Mar 2019	#8
He can't.	sheshe2	Mar 2019	#13
Of course he can	FBaggins	Mar 2019	#61
He did in 2016	onit2day	Mar 2019	#193
Which states are those?	TexasTowelie	Mar 2019	#202
I'd love an expansion on this.	Socal31	Mar 2019	#15
Good questions.	LuvNewcastle	Mar 2019	#132
I wouldn't say no support	JonLP24	Mar 2019	#31
Higher than Kamala Harris and Corey Booker? I don't think so.	yardwork	Mar 2019	#60
Yes higher than Kamala Harris or Booker	JonLP24	Mar 2019	#63
The Intercept?! Get that Russian propaganda off DU.	yardwork	Mar 2019	#113
They quote an actual poll	JonLP24	Mar 2019	#122
Linking to the Intercept is an automatic loss of credibility.	yardwork	Mar 2019	#136
That is funny because Rachel Maddow used the Intercept whenever they break stories	JonLP24	Mar 2019	#197
So on that poll,	namahage	Mar 2019	#143
Don't worry. They do this with every poll that shows Bernie up.	vsrazdem	Mar 2019	#255
LOL. If he had been anointed last time, he would be president	vsrazdem	Mar 2019	#253
Where were the African American voters at the recent event in South Carolina?	Gothmog	Mar 2019	#140
I watched it live	JonLP24	Mar 2019	#198
Less than 4% of crowd was African American	Gothmog	Mar 2019	#209
I'm not sure I trust Washington Post which has a strong anti progressive bias	JonLP24	Mar 2019	#211
I like living in the real world and I have a subscription to the Washington Post	Gothmog	Mar 2019	#213
I live in the real world too and the Washington Post bias is obvious	JonLP24	Mar 2019	#220
Where are the non whites at this rally?	Gothmog	Mar 2019	#222
I'm not into counting people in a crowd	JonLP24	Mar 2019	#229
I was a Clinton delegate to the National Convention	Gothmog	Mar 2019	#232
I didn't know you were a at the National Convention as a delegate.	Stuart G	Apr 2019	#269
This was not a fun experience	Gothmog	Apr 2019	#271
Huh?	Thekaspervote	May 2019	#303
Short answer	GWC58	Mar 2019	#45
He's hired nina and briebrie to run cover for him and cornell to	Kahuna7	Mar 2019	#62
That's nonsense. He has a great deal of support from A-A voters. He won key primaries last time	onit2day	Mar 2019	#179
No, sanders got little support from this demographic in the real world	Gothmog	Mar 2019	#182
Where were these supporters at an event at an African American church???	Gothmog	Mar 2019	#246
No.	sheshe2	Mar 2019	#10
Funny how his staff couldn't vote for the Democrat, but expect unity now...	Kahuna7	Mar 2019	#64
+1	betsuni	Mar 2019	#71
+++	sheshe2	Mar 2019	#126
+∞	LongtimeAZDem	Mar 2019	#128
Seriously! Somebody should tell Bernie, who's leading all fellow Democratic candidates who've	InAbLuEsTaTe	Mar 2019	#11
Where in the world did you get that metric?	fleabiscuit	Mar 2019	#30
Could've sworn I said all fellow Democrats who've declared they're running in 2020...	InAbLuEsTaTe	Mar 2019	#97
Interesting that a guy who hasn't even announced yet is in first place, by a LOT.	George II	Mar 2019	#99
Joes waiting until april to get in so he doesn't have to show ..	aidbo	Mar 2019	#119
He will not win the nomination. He'll probably be in the lower tier of candidates delegate-wise...	George II	Mar 2019	#91
Maybe we should wait to find out!	InAbLuEsTaTe	Mar 2019	#98
We don't need another center right corporate dem with years of baggage that's for sure	onit2day	Mar 2019	#194
Why not at least nominate a progressive Democrat this time who is more representative of what	InAbLuEsTaTe	Mar 2019	#206
No. But we need more than regular voters coming out to vote. We need passionate, all out, support --	pnwmom	Mar 2019	#35
He is saying...	bobGandolf	Mar 2019	#40
It is possible to support a candidate and work hard for them...	brooklynite	Mar 2019	#55
I agree that it is pretty basic common knowledge.	WeekiWater	Mar 2019	#56
Why is that funny?	yardwork	Mar 2019	#57
+∞	LongtimeAZDem	Mar 2019	#81
No, he's saying that moderate Republicans and Independents will never vote for a socialist	LongtimeAZDem	Mar 2019	#79
I don't think anyone said that at all. And you're talking about "making this shit up"?	George II	Mar 2019	#87
Will they receive a special dispensation because they don't like Bernie?	Autumn	Mar 2019	#111
No u can't Daisy...these endless Bernie bashin threads are gettin repetitive & frankly a lil boring.	InAbLuEsTaTe	Mar 2019	#152
They bash every post a Bernie supporter puts up and when there aren't any,	vsrazdem	Mar 2019	#254
Beyond desperate... and mostly just sad.	InAbLuEsTaTe	Mar 2019	#256
What he's saying.. and it's	Cha	May 2019	#313
For all candidates we need to think how they can handle the republican attack machine.	California_Republic	Mar 2019	#4
Mayor Pete has a LOT working for him to offset the attack machine for being gay	mr_lebowski	Mar 2019	#18
"I have a decent amount of faith he can handle the attack machine ...	True Dough	Mar 2019	#46
All good points N/T	bobGandolf	Mar 2019	#41
They'll go right past the socialist label	Mr.Bill	Mar 2019	#158
I agree-- he seems to be the "Trump of the Left" preferring fighting to governing...	TreasonousBastard	Mar 2019	#5
I agree, Stuart! Just look at the history.	Cha	Mar 2019	#6
I also believe that sanders is not electable	Gothmog	Mar 2019	#7
I know I won't forget	GWC58	Mar 2019	#47
I believe Sen. Sanders is electable. You can argue, but this is true	Devil Child	Mar 2019	#14
Thank you.	shanny	Mar 2019	#116
It is a bit much and over the top IMO shanny	Devil Child	Mar 2019	#145
As it stands currently, Biden is the most electable in the GE	Socal31	Mar 2019	#16
I don't understand why people think Biden is electable	JonLP24	Mar 2019	#29
The numbers suggest otherwise.	Socal31	Mar 2019	#32
This is where I based my comment off of	JonLP24	Mar 2019	#33
Data is more credible are this juncture than op-eds.	Socal31	Mar 2019	#36
The OP is saying Sanders is not electable and not providing any data	JonLP24	Mar 2019	#37
Socialism is the biggest gaffe out there.	R B Garr	Mar 2019	#65
Most people polled equate "socialism" with equality	JonLP24	Mar 2019	#69
Democratic Socialism	DemocratSinceBirth	Mar 2019	#108
Actually, most people equate socialism with government control.	R B Garr	Mar 2019	#109
Most people according to the poll said equality	JonLP24	Mar 2019	#244
A poll, one, doesn't change the government	R B Garr	Mar 2019	#247
I'm sure that when the Republicans were calling Obama a "socialist,"	namahage	Mar 2019	#243
Me too.	shanny	Mar 2019	#117
But Bernie isn't the past?	TexasTowelie	Mar 2019	#203
Bernie has an "Established in 1990" plaque on his office door.	betsuni	Mar 2019	#204
On DU he is not	treestar	May 2019	#294
I already went through the "electable" arguments last time	JonLP24	May 2019	#296
I also think that Joe Biden is the most electable candidate	Gothmog	Mar 2019	#141
I agree.....100%!	chillfactor	Mar 2019	#17
And he thinks the reason Trump won was because Dems ignored the working class.	betsuni	Mar 2019	#19
Yes, he's dead set on that..	Cha	Mar 2019	#21
Keeping a straight face here.	sheshe2	Mar 2019	#25
That's because Bernie has a yuuuuuge ego.	yardwork	Mar 2019	#59
In a nutshell, yep.	LongtimeAZDem	Mar 2019	#82
I always liked Bernie but you say you know best.	rusty quoin	Mar 2019	#20
i hear various...	Mike Nelson	Mar 2019	#22
I agree with you, but not for the same reasons.	RDANGELO	Mar 2019	#23
I still haven't figured out which candidate I like most	Jarqui	Mar 2019	#26
I don't know why this point is always overlooked:	shanny	Mar 2019	#118
"there is a large and virulent anti-Bernie faction here and I worry about PUMAs."	Jarqui	Mar 2019	#121
Makes sense.	shanny	Mar 2019	#134
There are a couple that are very unlikely for me	Jarqui	Mar 2019	#135
Why does this no infighting privilege other candidates?	JonLP24	Mar 2019	#27
Time will tell, however any candidate not releasing their tax returns	OnDoutside	Mar 2019	#28
Only two Democratic candidates have released them	Mr Tibbs	Mar 2019	#150
Out of how many who have actually declared? (nt)	ehrnst	Mar 2019	#257
agree!	Thekaspervote	Mar 2019	#34
The question for me is	vlyons	Mar 2019	#38
Yes some assholes will	Freddie	Mar 2019	#43
Or vote for Jill LIES stein like	Cha	Mar 2019	#49
Like BS's campaign co-chair, and his speechwriter, and his press secretary, and . . .	LongtimeAZDem	Mar 2019	#86
Yeah, like those suckers who encouraged	Cha	Mar 2019	#89
Since most Sanders supporters voted for Hillary in 2016 I think they will again. We know the	Nanjeanne	Mar 2019	#73
Did you vote for her?	lunamagica	Apr 2019	#283
Of course. Dont know anyone of my Bernie supporter friends who didn't. But we are all	Nanjeanne	Apr 2019	#284
Almost certainly, because they will double down on the "he got robbed" canard	LongtimeAZDem	Mar 2019	#84
If you look at some of his top staffers, they won't stay home but they won't vote for the Democrat.	George II	Mar 2019	#102
My word, never thought I'd see this OP.	bobGandolf	Mar 2019	#39
Thank you for this	Freddie	Mar 2019	#42
2016 changed things	KayF	Mar 2019	#44
You bet 2016 changed things. It's called	Cha	Mar 2019	#48
The "safe candidate lost", because some self-identified progressives refused to vote for the	still_one	Mar 2019	#66
Exactly	LongtimeAZDem	Mar 2019	#170
She had 3 opposition campaigns working against her.	R B Garr	Mar 2019	#67
+1. Opponents supercharged by Russian analytics and disinformation	dalton99a	Mar 2019	#88
Trump/Stein/Sanders/Putin/USM$M******!	Cha	Mar 2019	#93
Yes, indeed - Fox News and CNN being the most prominent 24/7 megaphones	dalton99a	Mar 2019	#95
& Andrea Mitchell.. But her emails.	Cha	Mar 2019	#96
And, as well as those you mentioned	Cha	Mar 2019	#92
And I believe that	Sherman A1	Mar 2019	#50
who thought trump was electable? pick your favorite candidate and	Kurt V.	Mar 2019	#51
A lot of people thought Trump was electable; that's why we tried to warn Sanders supporters	LongtimeAZDem	Mar 2019	#80
Agreed. The past will be the same as the future.	democratisphere	Mar 2019	#52
+Millions!	Cha	Mar 2019	#53
If Bernie got the nomination, I have no doubt he'll go toe to toe with Trump.	Kanoko	Mar 2019	#54
BS is too Divisive.. he's made it clear	Cha	Mar 2019	#68
He has hired senior staff who are hostile to the Democratic party.	ehrnst	Mar 2019	#70
+1	dalton99a	Mar 2019	#101
Bernie believes if he isn't the democratic nominee	njhoneybadger	Mar 2019	#58
Exactly. It's why he says in his rally speeches that he will support the Dem nominee and	Nanjeanne	Mar 2019	#76
A lot of similarities for sure. -NT.	Amimnoch	Mar 2019	#83
+1	dalton99a	Mar 2019	#124
The single most important idea that we have in this forum in this group of people: honesty.	Stuart G	Mar 2019	#74
Bernie was never vetted in the 2016 primary campaign.	kstewart33	Mar 2019	#105
Unelectable AND damaging the chances for the rest imo.	Amimnoch	Mar 2019	#75
Yes, and there is proof..if you accept it.	Stuart G	Mar 2019	#85
Amen!	Cha	Mar 2019	#94
Great post.	dalton99a	Mar 2019	#104
Sanders is having no friction with the other candidates	Mr Tibbs	Mar 2019	#151
Google" David Sirota" "journalistic ethics" "political operative."	ehrnst	Mar 2019	#230
Sanders is wasting people's time and energy. And they will be angry when he goes nowhere. Again.	PubliusEnigma	Mar 2019	#78
Of course he's not electable.	NurseJackie	Mar 2019	#100
A guy that ran an extension cord to his basement apartment because he couldn't pay his bills	LongtimeAZDem	Mar 2019	#103
Anybody that reads my posts knows I am one of the most sanguine posters on our chances.	DemocratSinceBirth	Mar 2019	#106
The abomination has the entire GOP apparatus behind him	dalton99a	Mar 2019	#107
The data suggests Trump is an underdog and I believe he is.	DemocratSinceBirth	Mar 2019	#112
The idiot is no Superman. But we need a strong turnout driven by a strong ticket.	dalton99a	Mar 2019	#115
Exactly. You want to get people to vote for him again? Nominate a socialist carreer politician	LongtimeAZDem	Mar 2019	#123
Counterpoint: you're wrong.	aidbo	Mar 2019	#110
OK, I won't argue that you believe Bernie is not electable	BobMcWan	Mar 2019	#120
Thanks for this reply, Bob.	RobertDevereaux	Mar 2019	#133
How exactly will any president achieve Medicare for all?	yardwork	Mar 2019	#138
I will vote for our parties nominee no matter who.	Stuart G	Mar 2019	#139
I'm in Florida	radical noodle	Mar 2019	#196
If it's a referendum election Trump is likely done. If he can make it a choice he isn't.	DemocratSinceBirth	Mar 2019	#130
Thank goodness we have you to tell us what is true.	aikoaiko	Mar 2019	#137
Opinion: The myth of ideology, and why Democrats' energy isn't all on the left	Gothmog	Mar 2019	#142
So do you "believe," or is it "true"? Which is it?	MadDAsHell	Mar 2019	#144
If you say so.	dogman	Mar 2019	#146
I agree with the OP, to a point, as a Sanders supporter in 2016	BlueWI	Mar 2019	#147
I agree.	we can do it	Mar 2019	#148
Last point - I want to lift up the name of George McGovern.	BlueWI	Mar 2019	#149
We need a candidate who is a loyal Democrat, who is a member of the	Doodley	Mar 2019	#153
"believe" being the key word. we have religious freedom, thank God.	pdsimdars	Mar 2019	#156
I am voting Democrat in November. Male of this what you will	robbedvoter	Mar 2019	#157
Interesting Freudian slip	LongtimeAZDem	Mar 2019	#168
I think that Sanders would take a coast to coast beating...	MarianJack	Mar 2019	#159
So do I. And then we are truly screwed. We can nominate someone who	Demsrule86	Mar 2019	#189
Good Analysis	Mjolnir1956	Mar 2019	#160
e: "We need to be totally united to beat them"	thesquanderer	Mar 2019	#162
Agree with you about Sanders	zentrum	Mar 2019	#163
It's definitely true that you believe that. No argument there.	Gore1FL	Mar 2019	#164
You admit that you believe Sanders isn't electable.	man4allcats	Mar 2019	#165
The OP is right.. BS is too Divisive.	Cha	Mar 2019	#169
Why not let the OP speak for her/himself?	man4allcats	Mar 2019	#174
The OP has spoken for hmself.. didn't you	Cha	Mar 2019	#175
So you admit that you and the OP have nothing more than opinion.	man4allcats	Mar 2019	#178
BS is too Divisive.. our Dems are more	Cha	Mar 2019	#181
I appreciate the match-up info.	man4allcats	Mar 2019	#185
And who is?	quakerboy	Mar 2019	#166
If BS is the answer ... it must be a terrible question n/t	SFnomad	Mar 2019	#167
Infight?	RadicalProgressive	Mar 2019	#171
Um. No.	OhZone	Mar 2019	#173
Exactly, OhZone! Aravois and Krugman weigh in on that, too..	Cha	Mar 2019	#180
NO. BS is too divisive by his own	Cha	Mar 2019	#176
Last time around, BS supporters tried to blame things on Secretary Clinton	SFnomad	Mar 2019	#195
Messina Says Sanders Can't Beat Trump	Gothmog	Apr 2019	#273
Bernie is hoping for a brokered convention.	Gothmog	Apr 2019	#286
Maybe you are right or maybe you are wrong but regardless if Sanders should win the nomination	cstanleytech	Mar 2019	#183
You haven't learned yet what a corporate centrist with years of baggage does for the race?	onit2day	Mar 2019	#184
A Warren Sanders ticket will lose badly in the rustbelt states we must win.	Demsrule86	Mar 2019	#190
NO	seta1950	Mar 2019	#188
It's way too soon to be having this discussion. Let the process flow first.	YOHABLO	Mar 2019	#205
Sanders will never be the nominee for two reasons	madville	Mar 2019	#210
I have removed some language from the original post. Sorry if I offended anyone	Stuart G	Mar 2019	#216
Didnt see the original post. For me this is simple, I will ONLY vote for a Democrat.	Eliot Rosewater	Mar 2019	#227
Shocking, another anti-Bernie post. nt	USALiberal	Mar 2019	#217
I stated an opinion in the original post.	Stuart G	Mar 2019	#218
I expect this to be the case for supporters of almost every candidate	LongtimeAZDem	Mar 2019	#228
Time for Ideas Not a Horserace: Campaign?	McKim	Mar 2019	#225
I agree	customerserviceguy	Mar 2019	#226
I agree, and for one primary reason:	MineralMan	Mar 2019	#231
Complete agreement, on all points	LongtimeAZDem	Mar 2019	#233
If he's nominated don't continue infighting.	Aaron Pereira	Mar 2019	#235
If he is nominated, I will zealously promote him to the very best of my ability. Period.	LongtimeAZDem	Mar 2019	#238
If he is nominated, I will support him as best I can. With money and work. We must win	Stuart G	Apr 2019	#265
What "institutional support within the Party" that "went to Nixon" are you talking about? (nt)	ehrnst	Mar 2019	#239
I don't know about "1972" but funny he didn't bring up 2016..	Cha	Mar 2019	#249
You mean like the "mistake" they made	Cha	Mar 2019	#248
Never heard of Steven Leser before, glad to see him excited about Buttigieg	Celerity	Mar 2019	#258
The Democrats Trump Fears Most	Gothmog	Mar 2019	#245
If the economy is strong, trump can win	Gothmog	Mar 2019	#259
You are correct. He is not the answer.	NurseJackie	Mar 2019	#260
Bernie Sanders is not electable in this country	Awsi Dooger	Mar 2019	#261
Unfortunately I think you are correct..Using Florida as an example is perfect.	Stuart G	Mar 2019	#263
I was all in on Sanders in 2016	Horse with no Name	Mar 2019	#262
Washington Post-'Electability' and 'Bernie' don't belong in the same sentence	Gothmog	Apr 2019	#264
If sanders is the nominee, trump wins	Gothmog	Apr 2019	#266
According to this study trump could win	Gothmog	Apr 2019	#267
According to this study trump could win	Gothmog	Apr 2019	#268
So, I will say again..If Bernie is nominated, he already has divided the Democratic Party.!!!	Stuart G	Apr 2019	#270
According to Jim Messina, trump will beat sanders easily	Gothmog	Apr 2019	#272
Why just call out Sanders?	artislife	Apr 2019	#275
The voters will decide this and they like him across party lines.	BeckyDem	Apr 2019	#276
This message was self-deleted by its author	doompatrol39	Apr 2019	#277
He is unless moderates decide to sit out the election if they don't get their way.	doompatrol39	Apr 2019	#278
Agreed 100%	NanceGreggs	Apr 2019	#279
sanders want to get the nomination with only 30% support	Gothmog	Apr 2019	#281
Nate Silver- Sanders Can Win, But He Isn't Polling Like A Favorite	Gothmog	Apr 2019	#285
The choice may be Woke or Win	Gothmog	Apr 2019	#287
Opinion: If the economy keeps its momentum, 2020 will be Trump's to lose	Gothmog	May 2019	#288
I saw the light	musicman65	May 2019	#289
bernie didn't even vote for mcgovern	Otto Lidenbrock	May 2019	#292
Get behind the nominee, whoever that is.	Iggo	May 2019	#293
I worked	Beatleman	May 2019	#295
can they just stop saying	johannsyah	May 2019	#297
Yeah, just like the bloated asshole currently sitting in the WH wasn't electable in 2016 either.	mtnsnake	May 2019	#298
Most Believe Socialism Is Not American	Gothmog	May 2019	#300
Most Americans don't know what "Socialism" is..	Stuart G	May 2019	#301
But then many Americans who say they support Socialism	emmaverybo	May 2019	#304
This grows more and more true daily nt	Celerity	May 2019	#305
If Bernie loses support among youth, what is left???	Gothmog	May 2019	#306
The message.	aikoaiko	May 2019	#307
sanders was counting on a brokered convention	Gothmog	May 2019	#308
I understand what you're saying and if things stay the same, you'll be right.	aikoaiko	May 2019	#309
Kick because of the ridiculous Biden copycat thread...nt	SidDithers	May 2019	#310
Agreed	Gothmog	May 2019	#312
Well said. Kick.	WeekiWater	May 2019	#311
Gallop-Less Than Half in U.S. Would Vote for a Socialist for President	Gothmog	May 2019	#314
Who is best	musicman65	May 2019	#315
Bernie's mystery Soviet tapes revealed	Gothmog	May 2019	#316
This is interesting	Gothmog	May 2019	#317
New CNN poll: A majority of Americans say they think President Trump is going to win a second term	Gothmog	Jun 2019	#318
Washington Post-Sanders wants Americans to buy into socialism. He's got some convincing to do	Gothmog	Jun 2019	#319
New poll: Capitalism is more popular than socialism	Gothmog	Jun 2019	#320
Thanks, Goth..	Cha	Jun 2019	#321

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