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Democratic Primaries

stopdiggin

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22. Nope. I just don't recognize a "systemic problem" where you do

Reply to booley (Reply #17)

Fri Dec 20, 2019, 10:30 PM

Dec 2019

I stand behind my post (#9) .. and understand that others have a different point of view.

Right now I see the biggest "problem" confronting the party (and us by extension) is defeating Donald Trump. We can come back to this argument after accomplishing that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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The Wine Cave Issue that appears overlooked. [View all] Tiggeroshii Dec 2019 OP

Were all of the donations legal and accounted for? The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #1

To who? Tiggeroshii Dec 2019 #2

30 years ago? That is reaching... we need donors period and I will say it again. This sort Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #3

You know how you don't give the GOP ammo? progressoid Dec 2019 #13

Damn straight!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #27

Nah.Trump would win.. Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #28

You know how we win elections and put out our owm message....raise Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #29

I hate to disagree... myohmy2 Dec 2019 #14

and, as usual there is more to the story stopdiggin Dec 2019 #4

Shame on you for stomping on that BS narrative!! Amimnoch Dec 2019 #5

No. It isnt about Pete Buttigieg or any candidate. Tiggeroshii Dec 2019 #6

thanks. but it looks to me like these people are attempting to help stopdiggin Dec 2019 #8

From the looks of it, from your citation, he still owes 200 million dollars to the taxpayers Tiggeroshii Dec 2019 #15

No bailouts, no bankruptcy The Mouth Dec 2019 #20

Agreed Tiggeroshii Dec 2019 #21

Purity causes us to lose and that sucks. We need money to win elections. Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #30

I would contend that it was bad the whole time. aidbo Dec 2019 #7

then you have a more developed concept of "bad" than I stopdiggin Dec 2019 #9

It is absolutely about them having an influence on the politicians they are donating to. aidbo Dec 2019 #16

Why assume the influence is nefarious. His main concern might be climate change's affect on the wine betsuni Dec 2019 #26

Me too. Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #31

Thank you! Paka Dec 2019 #18

So he got a $300 million federal bailout and later had to pay $100 million settlement. progressoid Dec 2019 #11

+1. dalton99a Dec 2019 #24

I think you made a point you didnt' mean to make booley Dec 2019 #17

Nope. I just don't recognize a "systemic problem" where you do stopdiggin Dec 2019 #22

Post removed Post removed Dec 2019 #23

any charges leveled for the "theft" (stealing) stopdiggin Dec 2019 #25

That is really silly...1980...ok stone age. Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #32

Wonder what perks they think they deserve this cycle? MichMan Dec 2019 #33

So let me get this straight. redqueen Dec 2019 #10

More about Craig Hall redqueen Dec 2019 #12

Campaigns are expensive. Fundraisers are necessary. I'm OK comradebillyboy Dec 2019 #19