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Awsi Dooger

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52. Amy had a very poor debate when she could least afford it
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 07:53 PM
Feb 2020

I support Amy and Bloomberg but they were both terrible. It doesn't change how they would fare in a general election but they were both terrible. Likewise Elizabeth Warren was excellent but it doesn't change how she would fare. Too many people love to overreact and proclaim voters stampeding away or rallying towards.

Amy was frustrated early when she wasn't getting enough talk time. Sanders and Warren were hogging things. Then the Mexico question was proper. That had been Amy's weakest moment of the campaign, as I emphasized in the related thread once it happened. It was difficult to believe Amy wasn't better prepared this time. Rattle off some names and recent policy decisions regarding Mexico. That's what Bush 43 used to do including the famous second debate with Gore in 2000 that Saturday Night Live properly mocked.

Then the Dreamers answer was even worse. Mind boggling. I had to pause the tape and watch something else for a while, before returning.

Amy let Pete get under her skin. Some of her responses indicate she wasn't ready to be challenged like that. But you can't weaken to comments like, "Are you saying I'm dumb?" Trump would feast on something like that. His supporters would be in a feeding frenzy.

Very disappointing overall. Bloomberg technically may have been worse in the first hour but he didn't show a weak side like Amy did, nor a testy side.

I don't mind wagering against my favorite teams and I don't mind defining my preferred candidates properly when they fail.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Amy! You go, Girl! [View all] Xipe Totec Feb 2020 OP
she looked like she was gonna cry nt msongs Feb 2020 #1
Agree.... Then she rallied California_Republic Feb 2020 #5
No, she looked like she wanted to fight! Big Blue Marble Feb 2020 #8
To me, it seemed like she was attacking him. unitedwethrive Feb 2020 #11
That's what I thought because her voice was wavering also n/t Just_Vote_Dem Feb 2020 #10
YES. That was the moment that I thought was worst for her, because nothing would play better... thesquanderer Feb 2020 #49
Yessss we can do it Feb 2020 #2
Pete pushed that too far, MontanaFarmer Feb 2020 #3
She's not handling it well GanjaGrower Feb 2020 #4
Yes cherryinpa Feb 2020 #6
The women were totally on fire Raine Feb 2020 #7
Pete and Mr. Burns ... the Republican-lite candidates. earthside Feb 2020 #9
I like Pete more than ever. StevieM Feb 2020 #12
Pete was petty and smarmy . He is off my list and my spouse's apcalc Feb 2020 #29
I called Pete 'Alex P Keaton' at one point, lol Cal Carpenter Feb 2020 #32
She's getting NedBraden Feb 2020 #13
What did he say what was inaccurate here? dsc Feb 2020 #14
He tried to talk over her and she shut him up. He deserved it. Xipe Totec Feb 2020 #15
Oh please dsc Feb 2020 #18
+1 Celerity Feb 2020 #17
completely disagree, Amy lost her cool as many on multiple threads (and not just Pete supporters) Celerity Feb 2020 #16
Sexist. earthside Feb 2020 #20
LOL, temperament is not gender dictated, and as a woman myself, I find that sexist charge to what is Celerity Feb 2020 #22
I give her credit for not walking over and decking him. apcalc Feb 2020 #26
she is the one who has been having a go for weeks, so sorry, not buying this Celerity Feb 2020 #36
Sexist bullshit. She did not lose her cool. apcalc Feb 2020 #38
bollocks, you are playing semantic games, plus injecting your own sexism by applying 'smarmy' Celerity Feb 2020 #40
Who knew smarmy was gender specific? In your view did I use it on apcalc Feb 2020 #50
Smarmy is gendered? Nah. thesquanderer Feb 2020 #53
might be a cultural thing, I am US-born but London raised, it is most often applied to women Celerity Feb 2020 #54
Why did she vote for so many of Trumps nominees? Renew Deal Feb 2020 #19
And he has not voted on anything apcalc Feb 2020 #27
Neither has Trump Renew Deal Feb 2020 #30
Yes, they both attack and have no record of votes. apcalc Feb 2020 #35
In 2008, the Clinton campaign tried the "Easy when you have no record" defense musicblind Feb 2020 #44
The irony is that some here did not like her attacks question everything Feb 2020 #21
I have no problem with her attacking I have a big problem with her dishonesty dsc Feb 2020 #23
You mean answer the totally unfair question squirecam Feb 2020 #24
It wasn't unfair at all dsc Feb 2020 #25
As they all were... nobody knew it, except buttigieg. apcalc Feb 2020 #31
It wasn't just the name as the questioner pointed out dsc Feb 2020 #34
This is the difference between a small town mayor who can just look at tiny facts question everything Feb 2020 #28
Every single, solitary senator who ran for President dsc Feb 2020 #33
Gotcha question?? She's on the Border Security/immigration committee.. jmg257 Feb 2020 #39
As she explained in the Town Hall meeting - it was around 2:00 am question everything Feb 2020 #42
I'm still not clear - did she forget the Mexico Pres name, jmg257 Feb 2020 #37
My impression is she just forgot it. musicblind Feb 2020 #45
No, Obama misspoke. He did not "forget" there are 50 states. Amy forgot. SunSeeker Feb 2020 #48
Amy and Elizabeth both did well tonight, we should all be proud of them tonight ... cliffside Feb 2020 #41
I agree they did well. And your point at the end is well taken. apcalc Feb 2020 #47
What debate did you watch? Callado119 Feb 2020 #43
One bad debate is definitely not going to end her. musicblind Feb 2020 #46
Amy had a very poor debate when she could least afford it Awsi Dooger Feb 2020 #52
Guess the ladies snowybirdie Feb 2020 #51
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