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mountain grammy

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200. So, what I hear you saying is
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 12:48 PM
Feb 2020

a candidate shouldn’t campaign on changing America for the better and lifting all Americans with good ideas and policies because they can’t do it anyway.. 🙄

Gotta give people something to hope for. But why hope when we don’t even know how government works? I think you’re being a bit condescending with that kind of thinking. Pretty sure most people who are following the campaigns know that Bernie isn’t promising anything, he’s just telling it like it is. We need universal health care. We’ve needed it for decades. If you don’t believe that, maybe you don’t understand America..

I understand our government isn’t working as it should, but is working for a radical right wing Christian agenda that will turn out very badly for all of us. Obviously, American government doesn’t need a majority to function..it just needs a bully with a radical religious following.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
Why is Bernie so popular? [View all] kentuck Feb 2020 OP
Excellent post! All you have to do is listen to what Bernie is sayin... he speaks truth to power InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #1
Can you be more specific though? OneGrassRoot Feb 2020 #3
Definitely both, but more of the former and less of the latter. InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #12
Its like being stuck in a time warp........... Historic NY Feb 2020 #129
Which means: kentuck Feb 2020 #130
Just don't ask him about his medical records.... ehrnst Feb 2020 #70
Why is Trump So Popular Among Republicans? TomCADem Feb 2020 #2
Trump is a cult leader... ahoysrcsm Feb 2020 #165
No one has question disndat Feb 2020 #4
Maybe stop giving so much money to the military industrial complex womanofthehills Feb 2020 #115
He's popular because his policies are popular, and people trust his consistency. DanTex Feb 2020 #5
All this and he is showing that lefties can fight as hard as anyone aikoaiko Feb 2020 #15
THIS!! WELL SAID!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #16
Yes, about that consistency.... ehrnst Feb 2020 #39
well said KayF Feb 2020 #148
Well said. A question remains, why is he so UN-popular on DU? mysteryowl Feb 2020 #195
I would guess that DU demographics lean older than the electorate as a whole. DanTex Feb 2020 #196
Interesting, that could be. mysteryowl Feb 2020 #198
Sander's popularity is exposing the troubles at140 Feb 2020 #6
Simply put... Bernie has the backs of We The People. We've been lookin for our Champion InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #107
You don't delve too deeply with your question Beringia Feb 2020 #7
I will leave that to you. kentuck Feb 2020 #13
I am looking but cannot find it. katmondoo Feb 2020 #155
Promising to give away free shit is popular? Zolorp Feb 2020 #8
He's offering change Bettie Feb 2020 #90
Well said! mountain grammy Feb 2020 #146
+1 n/t Laelth Feb 2020 #159
Superb post. John Fante Feb 2020 #184
Yep. A lot of folks recognize that we're running out of time to make the necessary changes. Garrett78 Feb 2020 #190
So healthcare for all and a living wage is now free shit womanofthehills Feb 2020 #116
Exactly,,,,,I got mine, heck with you! at140 Feb 2020 #121
Raising minimum wage is NOT giving away anything at140 Feb 2020 #119
Rational investments Tweedy Feb 2020 #151
Senator Sander talked about raising min wage in 2007 to $15 an hour. ahoysrcsm Feb 2020 #166
I would raise minimum wage to $17.50/hour at140 Feb 2020 #168
Why not $25? ahoysrcsm Feb 2020 #171
A journey of 1000 miles begins with small steps.. at140 Feb 2020 #172
We are in agreement with the small steps... ahoysrcsm Feb 2020 #174
$15 is already in place in many locations! Going to $17.50 is a small step right? at140 Feb 2020 #179
$15 min wage in many locations, Great! All over america... unfortunately no. ahoysrcsm Feb 2020 #181
It's generational demographic redistribution bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 #9
Here's what my daughter and son in law said: ginnyinWI Feb 2020 #10
"Not unlike the trump cult" handmade34 Feb 2020 #52
12 years the min wage has stagnated. ahoysrcsm Feb 2020 #167
Elizabeth Warren is a rare opportunity for this country in 2020 at140 Feb 2020 #194
Would Sanders be an effective President? Rorey Feb 2020 #11
He'll have support from at least half of congress juliuswest Feb 2020 #105
I suspect the average DUer is older than the average Sanders supporter. That affects everything. LonePirate Feb 2020 #14
Bernie will energize more republicans to turn out to vote against him... dubyadiprecession Feb 2020 #17
As I've said in a previous thread Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2020 #22
Scumbag GOPer Hugh Hewitt said he's voting for Bernie in the VA primary. JaneQPublic Feb 2020 #30
It's a classic tactic. xmas74 Feb 2020 #97
Agree. Skidmore Feb 2020 #47
but more independents will vote for him womanofthehills Feb 2020 #117
"Why do so many young people support him?" JaneQPublic Feb 2020 #18
so, selfishness?? PubliusEnigma Feb 2020 #20
Not any more than other voters. (nt) JaneQPublic Feb 2020 #23
Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #89
Weed is becoming legal pretty much everywhere without Bernie. 33taw Feb 2020 #106
Why is Bernie not a Democrat?? Why not commit to the Party instead of using it for your own purposes PubliusEnigma Feb 2020 #19
Because he makes extravagant promises to people The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #21
THIS!!!! Watchfoxheadexplodes Feb 2020 #25
could not have said that any better myself Velevteen! Kudos... berksdem Feb 2020 #57
+100000 Pachamama Feb 2020 #78
Yes...extravagant promises that are not exposed on primary level Awsi Dooger Feb 2020 #111
A lot of them DO understand how government works Bettie Feb 2020 #112
+1 betsuni Feb 2020 #125
Exactly. If I thought he could fulfill half is promises, I'd be for him too. Same for Warren. Hoyt Feb 2020 #126
Yes. Sparkly Feb 2020 #139
Yep. And some Democrats are in areas that are VERY moderate almost red. Vivienne235729 Feb 2020 #153
Most people don't think being able to see a doctor mountain grammy Feb 2020 #163
It's extravagant in the sense that he's making people believe that he can deliver it, The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #170
Back in the 60"s when Democrats mountain grammy Feb 2020 #197
That's not the point. The point is that he's promising voters The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #199
So, what I hear you saying is mountain grammy Feb 2020 #200
A candidate shouldn't campaign on promising something he can't deliver. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #202
Never once heard any of our candidates mountain grammy Feb 2020 #204
Gee, his voters must be real idiots. Boulevardier Feb 2020 #185
I know of no one who likes him-including me. wisteria Feb 2020 #24
It was a tie with Sanders receiving 9 delegates and Buttigieg receiving 9 delegates in NH. ahoysrcsm Feb 2020 #173
He has about 30% support. Is that your measure of popularity? still_one Feb 2020 #26
The others have 75-85 percent who don't support them jimfields33 Feb 2020 #71
Because that isn't how it works and you realize it. There are too many candidates running with still_one Feb 2020 #79
Duh. Free College which will never happen redstateblues Feb 2020 #27
I wish colleges would step up and use their huge endowments jimfields33 Feb 2020 #84
How much do you think they will charge when the recipient pays nothing? MichMan Feb 2020 #205
I would imagine they'll apply like today. jimfields33 Feb 2020 #206
tell that to the undecided trumpers we are trying to win over..that message is too scary for them samnsara Feb 2020 #28
I have a hunch that his supporters tend to be low information Dream Girl Feb 2020 #29
you had best sit down for the money quote ...... rampartc Feb 2020 #31
Bullshit. W_HAMILTON Feb 2020 #35
I believe Churchill answered this question back when: beastie boy Feb 2020 #32
Churchill never said that tishaLA Feb 2020 #56
You are right. It had been attributed to a whole bunch of people beastie boy Feb 2020 #60
I have my suspicions. Evergreen Emerald Feb 2020 #33
So you think Hillary did a poor job of vetting Sanders? I don't Apollo Zeus Feb 2020 #45
Not Hillary, the press. Hillary did not go as negative as she could have. Evergreen Emerald Feb 2020 #50
A 2015-2016 heart attack? Damn, I thought it was just the 2019 heart attack. ahoysrcsm Feb 2020 #175
He's the only politician that gives young people hope. Autumn Feb 2020 #34
I don't know any Dems that support him. Alliepoo Feb 2020 #36
I live in NM, and most people I know support Bernie womanofthehills Feb 2020 #118
2008 Act_of_Reparation Feb 2020 #37
well said. aikoaiko Feb 2020 #51
How often does a candidate do as well as Sanders did in 2016 not ever get a chance at a run on top Johonny Feb 2020 #38
When you promise free stuff to a lot of people Dem4Life1102 Feb 2020 #40
When you focus on the importance of a living wage and affordable healthcare and the climate crisis JudyM Feb 2020 #58
Which all the candidates have done Dem4Life1102 Feb 2020 #59
Qualitatively different. That's why he's popular. JudyM Feb 2020 #64
Don't put words in my mouth Dem4Life1102 Feb 2020 #95
Your words: " When you promise free stuff to a lot of people you get popular." JudyM Feb 2020 #98
Maybe Dem4Life1102 Feb 2020 #108
Maybe it's largely projection. Maybe these disenfranchised people actually value more than JudyM Feb 2020 #109
Maybe Dem4Life1102 Feb 2020 #114
Not true! You've bought into a complete falsehood. JudyM Feb 2020 #122
Correction Dem4Life1102 Feb 2020 #132
Research I've linked shows AA voters under 45 prefer Sanders, and that women under 45 comprise JudyM Feb 2020 #133
So women are Bernie Bros? Dem4Life1102 Feb 2020 #134
Reading comprehension:Sanders is top choice of AAs under 45, no parsing for education. JudyM Feb 2020 #135
Doesn't make them his largest block of supporters Dem4Life1102 Feb 2020 #136
I will post this again: women under 45 are his primary base, and many of them are AA. Here's proof. JudyM Feb 2020 #137
Many of them? Dem4Life1102 Feb 2020 #141
If you'd actually open the links... JudyM Feb 2020 #144
I did Dem4Life1102 Feb 2020 #150
Excerpt: Garrett78 Feb 2020 #189
Nice spin Dem4Life1102 Feb 2020 #191
LOL. If that's what you mean, it's doubly true for every other candidate. Garrett78 Feb 2020 #210
Doubly?? Dem4Life1102 Feb 2020 #211
What I've seen says it's still Biden. Sparkly Feb 2020 #140
But it's not just free stuff. It's peace of mind and getting closer to a more perfect union. Politicub Feb 2020 #66
And so do the other candidates Dem4Life1102 Feb 2020 #94
"free stuff" nobuddy Feb 2020 #74
Then you must be new here Dem4Life1102 Feb 2020 #96
How about the roads we drive on. The schools we send our kids to. kcr Feb 2020 #182
Welcome to DU, at140 Feb 2020 #169
He only appears to be more popular. LiberalFighter Feb 2020 #41
The number that show up at the polls is the final arbiter on popularity ehrnst Feb 2020 #42
That was back when? Probably need to index those numbers to now. :) LiberalFighter Feb 2020 #49
Nader? ahoysrcsm Feb 2020 #176
No one said that he did. I just said he drew huge crowds and was considered popular, and ehrnst Feb 2020 #192
Easy, he offers u free everything awesomerwb1 Feb 2020 #43
I like he has 3 houses including a camp like most Vermonters. dem4decades Feb 2020 #102
Whats not to like? He is advocating against the system. He explains it very well in cold numbers. jmg257 Feb 2020 #44
Because in 2016 bernie completely transformed the Democratic Party with issues jimfields33 Feb 2020 #46
Yeah, right. No Democrat ever cared about income inequality, health care, higher minimum wage, and highplainsdem Feb 2020 #48
+1000. ehrnst Feb 2020 #53
Maybe cared. But didn't speak up at all jimfields33 Feb 2020 #73
seriously handmade34 Feb 2020 #54
"Single handedly?" Um, no. Ted Kennedy was working on Single Payer back in 1971 ehrnst Feb 2020 #61
Ok. Do you think al Gore was able to have people to seriously look at it jimfields33 Feb 2020 #75
That Pulitzer Prize was awarded to him for raising awareness of climate change. ehrnst Feb 2020 #91
We were all young and stupid idealists once too CalFione Feb 2020 #55
Real popularity is confirmed at the Polls. Nader was drawing crowds of 15,000 ehrnst Feb 2020 #62
Bernie resonates with youth because youth have keen BS detectors. Alex4Martinez Feb 2020 #63
Consistent? You mean like when he says he's going to release his comprehensive medical records ehrnst Feb 2020 #67
My take is that he represents a complete departure from the system that is no longer working Politicub Feb 2020 #65
Denmark has nearly twice the billionaires per capita as the US... ehrnst Feb 2020 #68
I have no problem with billionaires who don't use their money to make life harder for people. Politicub Feb 2020 #88
But what do you make of Sanders' statements that Billionaires and not and will not exist in ehrnst Feb 2020 #93
It was a strange comment. I don't know how Sweden's system Politicub Feb 2020 #113
I'm an older voter... it's priorities. k2qb3 Feb 2020 #69
He ran last time, people know him. maxsolomon Feb 2020 #72
popular? evertonfc Feb 2020 #76
Dems lose the Senate with Bernie on the ballot aeromanKC Feb 2020 #77
Personally I think he would get crushed in the GE, NoMoreRepugs Feb 2020 #80
He is consistent. roody Feb 2020 #81
Who is it that said ... frazzled Feb 2020 #82
It's an intangible, like Trump's supporters. Some, (obviously not all) of his supporters madibella Feb 2020 #83
He isn't so popular but the people he ahs makes lots of noise. Trump is not so popular, but again, krissey Feb 2020 #85
I think he's selling a fantasy... cynatnite Feb 2020 #86
Problem is HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #99
Pandering works. Just my opinion, part II LanternWaste Feb 2020 #87
+1 nt Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #103
Free stuff is always popular HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #92
So are vapid bumper-sticker caliber yokel witticisms like "Free stuff is always popular" Act_of_Reparation Feb 2020 #100
But they often work HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #101
People believe musicman65 Feb 2020 #104
Pandering along with grievance politics... Steven Maurer Feb 2020 #110
Sanders' support is quite high among Hispanic/Latino and black voters under 45. BlueWI Feb 2020 #145
The key is to speak to them the same, but without talking about raising taxes on everyone else maximusveritas Feb 2020 #147
There are definitely overreaches in Sanders' rhetoric - I agree. BlueWI Feb 2020 #156
I think the facts disagree with much of what you're saying here: Steven Maurer Feb 2020 #149
A few quick points. BlueWI Feb 2020 #154
Social media created a character that ecstatic Feb 2020 #120
Tens of millions recognize that fundamental changes are desperately needed. Garrett78 Feb 2020 #123
Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #124
In 2015, DU polled WIDELY in favor of Sanders Bonobo Feb 2020 #131
I am on 3 Democratic town and county committees and, amazingly, the primaries aren't... TreasonousBastard Feb 2020 #127
Another thought-- never forget that half the population is below average. TreasonousBastard Feb 2020 #128
He's not all that popular. More turned out in NH last week yet he got half as many votes. George II Feb 2020 #161
Beats me lanlady Feb 2020 #138
I support Senator Sanders because... mike_c Feb 2020 #142
He looks like a tough old coot who will give Trump what's what. McCamy Taylor Feb 2020 #143
His 25-30% doesn't make him "so popular." pnwmom Feb 2020 #152
Because they fail to understand that liking a candidate and their ideas isn't enough. musicblind Feb 2020 #157
Is he? Tweedy Feb 2020 #158
He's about half as popular as he was several years ago. George II Feb 2020 #160
i wanted him in 2016. i am unopposed to him this time, tho i like pete. pansypoo53219 Feb 2020 #162
Well... ahoysrcsm Feb 2020 #164
We know better. democratisphere Feb 2020 #177
Those guardrails in the US Congress failed to stop a full-fledged doc03 Feb 2020 #178
Operation Chaos led by the GOP and Putin aeromanKC Feb 2020 #180
This as well Meowmee Feb 2020 #188
I'm not a Sanders supporter but I won't deny that he's talented at campaigning. Midwestern Democrat Feb 2020 #183
A simple message repeated with conviction. Buzz cook Feb 2020 #186
Free college Meowmee Feb 2020 #187
magnetic... myohmy2 Feb 2020 #193
1. College kids don't vote. 2. College kids are not the voters we need to target. EveHammond13 Feb 2020 #201
Bernie is populist. lapfog_1 Feb 2020 #203
Americans like a patriarch liberalmediaaddict Feb 2020 #207
Well, they say the Russians are meddling in our primary. Perhaps they are helping Bernie because helpisontheway Feb 2020 #208
Is he? beathimlikeadrum Feb 2020 #209
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