True. So where's the evidence? (Reply #62)

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62. True. So where's the evidence?

Without evidence, it's just some US spooks visibly interfering by briefing anonymously to the WP. Advising people to beware of this happening is one thing; asserting without evidence that it is happening is quite another. If there is trolling in social or other media by Russian state actors there should be evidence of this and no reason to classify it - the opposite, in fact: disinformation needs to be called out.

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96 replies	Author	Time	Post
Reminder; The "Putin helping Sanders" info was classified and leaked anonymously. [View all]	jg10003	Feb 2020	OP
Thank you.	SamKnause	Feb 2020	#1
Not appropriately. He said he didn't care and would address when President. THAT is not appropriate.	krissey	Feb 2020	#2
what would you like him to say, without revealing classified info?	jg10003	Feb 2020	#9
We are aware and addressing it and actually do it. I do not trust him at all.	krissey	Feb 2020	#16
show us proof of the large donations	NJCher	Feb 2020	#22
He's been getting large donations through Our Revolution, a dark money org he set up.	pnwmom	Feb 2020	#25
this was discussed on NPR	NJCher	Feb 2020	#39
In the past, Russian oligarchs have funneled huge donations through Republican super pacs	pnwmom	Feb 2020	#48
And this pac can accept international donations. He has not been transparent on who these	Demsrule86	Feb 2020	#87
They will benefit because it will insure Trump is re-elected	Dream Girl	Feb 2020	#78
Here you go:	W_HAMILTON	Feb 2020	#26
The other candisdates should bring this up in debates. nt	SunSeeker	Feb 2020	#32
hey thanks!	NJCher	Feb 2020	#40
So, you already knew the answer to your question and yet you still asked it?	W_HAMILTON	Feb 2020	#41
because they were described as	NJCher	Feb 2020	#42
Yes, we get it, you will come up with whatever excuses necessary to explain away the behavior.	W_HAMILTON	Feb 2020	#43
no, that is not the case	NJCher	Feb 2020	#44
We don't know who the hell made the donations -- that's the point.	W_HAMILTON	Feb 2020	#45
I see you have to resort to throwing loaded terms around	NJCher	Feb 2020	#47
It could be oleg deripaska's money in there.	MontanaFarmer	Feb 2020	#80
You heard some unidentified people discussing this on NPR who apparently have gotten	pnwmom	Feb 2020	#49
I seriously doubt that	NJCher	Feb 2020	#51
You asked for a link and I gave it to you. Now where's your link supporting your idea	pnwmom	Feb 2020	#54
Something smart and useful, he didn't ... he said nothing.	uponit7771	Feb 2020	#53
The BBC did some investigative journalism, by asking the Facebook	Ghost Dog	Feb 2020	#46
FB that owes billions to IRS, refuses to do anything about lying Republican ads?	krissey	Feb 2020	#60
True. So where's the evidence?	Ghost Dog	Feb 2020	#62
Why are you assuming no evidence?	krissey	Feb 2020	#64
I see none presented.	Ghost Dog	Feb 2020	#65
Right, why did they decide it needed classified? Why did Sanders decide we didn't need to know?	krissey	Feb 2020	#67
Much like Trump.	True Blue American	Feb 2020	#72
More and more. Hear about pointing finger in face of NBC guy and yelling about how unfair they are	krissey	Feb 2020	#73
I have	True Blue American	Feb 2020	#75
Thanks	True Blue American	Feb 2020	#68
That would almost be like Fox News saying that really, they are fearful of Sanders running against	krissey	Feb 2020	#69
Some source	True Blue American	Feb 2020	#71
Is it Twitter that said they would just stop political ads at a point because they can't stop lying	krissey	Feb 2020	#74
If Twitter did, I admire that.	True Blue American	Feb 2020	#76
Ya, lol.	krissey	Feb 2020	#77
Lol good point. BS addressing it when president is rich	onetexan	Feb 2020	#66
I will release medical records before the first vote, it is the right thing to do.	krissey	Feb 2020	#70
finally, someone gets it. n/t	5X	Feb 2020	#3
Sanders could've denounced Russia's helping him without disclosing classified information. No, I'm	uponit7771	Feb 2020	#4
He did. In the January debate. And he's told them to go to hell on many occasions.	Garrett78	Feb 2020	#6
No, telling outside involvement to go to hell helping his or any other persons campaign. There	uponit7771	Feb 2020	#10
Really?	wisteria	Feb 2020	#28
You're not the only one, wisteria.	calimary	Feb 2020	#50
You must have. For instance, here's what he told Face the Nation in July of 2018:	Garrett78	Feb 2020	#63
I wonder why our Democratic leadership has been so silent on this. Especially since it's been leaked	Autumn	Feb 2020	#85
That's a lie.	W_HAMILTON	Feb 2020	#29
Bingo. nt	SunSeeker	Feb 2020	#34
+1	uponit7771	Feb 2020	#55
Not a lie, but it wasn't at the debate. It was around the same time, though. Here's the WAPO story:	Garrett78	Feb 2020	#61
From the transcript of the last debate:	W_HAMILTON	Feb 2020	#96
I agree with you.	wisteria	Feb 2020	#27
This is false, Sanders could've kept the denouncement generic and kept out classified info but told	uponit7771	Feb 2020	#56
Great post. Not that most folks here will care. It's all about making political hay.	Garrett78	Feb 2020	#5
+1	DanTex	Feb 2020	#8
The point is that Ruskies want Sanders as Dem nominee. There's no good way to spin that.	Hoyt	Feb 2020	#7
You're right.. the spinning isn't working.. not for	Cha	Feb 2020	#19
So what does the document say, anyway? Can people read it?	David__77	Feb 2020	#11
Was it classified? I read sensitive intelligence, but didn't think that meant classified.	musicblind	Feb 2020	#12
No it was not classified and it looks like Sanders was briefed privately	uponit7771	Feb 2020	#58
Was Democratic leadership brief? I would think they would be. If so why are they remaining silent?	Autumn	Feb 2020	#88
Sanders could've denounced Russia's helping him without disclosing classified information. No, I'm	uponit7771	Feb 2020	#89
My question was. Was Democratic leadership briefed about this? Bernie goes after Russia	Autumn	Feb 2020	#90
What difference would that make? It was Sanders who should've been livid at the involvement in his	uponit7771	Feb 2020	#91
What Democratic leadership says about this makes a big fucking difference.	Autumn	Feb 2020	#92
True, we'll see ... I don't think this ends here	uponit7771	Feb 2020	#93
I don't think it does either This is some serious shit, not just Bad Bernie.	Autumn	Feb 2020	#95
#3 is what I'm most curious about.	Aaron Pereira	Feb 2020	#13
To stop foreign influence in the election.	Qutzupalotl	Feb 2020	#18
The Bloomberg Campaign claimed it had 'very "damaging" info on Sanders the other day.s	CentralMass	Feb 2020	#31
They should find out who leaked it, if true	rockfordfile	Feb 2020	#14
And thank them.	apcalc	Feb 2020	#33
Yet, Knowing What He Did, He Then Lied...	TomCADem	Feb 2020	#15
Of course	Cha	Feb 2020	#20
The only thing I care about is if it's true.	HarlanPepper	Feb 2020	#17
Reminder. It's true.	EveHammond13	Feb 2020	#21
Reminder: what happened in Iowa	ucrdem	Feb 2020	#23
THIS !!!! It seems like the timing has been left out of the narrative.	uponit7771	Feb 2020	#57
This one was very different.	wisteria	Feb 2020	#24
So?	apcalc	Feb 2020	#30
Hey! I've got a great idea!!	blue-wave	Feb 2020	#35
I'm glad we found out.	RandySF	Feb 2020	#36
The Mueller Report also said Putin helped Sanders. nt	SunSeeker	Feb 2020	#37
Good, voters need to know the truth.	radius777	Feb 2020	#38
Bernie is done	aeromanKC	Feb 2020	#52
+1, good point ... especially if he pulls ahead quick. Sanders being upset at WAPO didn't help eithe	uponit7771	Feb 2020	#59
Link to it being classified? What i dont understand is why Sanders info would be	jmg257	Feb 2020	#79
Was this just another	duforsure	Feb 2020	#81
If that's true since this leak the silence of the Democratic leadership is deafening.	Autumn	Feb 2020	#82
lol ... Sanders has known this for a a long time - like 5 years	NYMinute	Feb 2020	#83
Excuses are just as lame as Trump's.	MrsCoffee	Feb 2020	#84
#3 is obvious	madville	Feb 2020	#86
Why isn't he calling for Senate investigations?	mcar	Feb 2020	#94

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