Democratic Primaries

highplainsdem

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127. Usually. Though if they expect 5- or 6-figure financial windfalls, that might motivate them.

Reply to Nasruddin (Reply #125)

Sun Feb 23, 2020, 01:38 PM

Feb 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Is DU out of step with the Democratic Party? [View all] kentuck Feb 2020 OP

I am not scared of Bernie. I'm scared he will get tRump re-elected. nt zackymilly Feb 2020 #1

Do you blame Hillary for Trump's election in the first place? PTWB Feb 2020 #45

Actually, I blame Sanders for not helping her in the General sufficiently...but I would vote for him Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #161

This message was self-deleted by its author PAMod Feb 2020 #214

That was my main concern also - however, I always like Bernie and I think I will support him in walkingman Feb 2020 #48

"wrong" and "ineffective" aren't the same thing. cab67 Feb 2020 #128

nobody thought dotard could do what he has done. n/t 5X Feb 2020 #139

Many of us knew damn well he could. cab67 Feb 2020 #158

I think reality is this - it all comes down to Congress. Unless we can gain control of the Senate walkingman Feb 2020 #163

That is reality. cab67 Feb 2020 #172

He is doing pretty good with the rank and file Dems so far. scipan Feb 2020 #187

This is the article that made me really think twice about Sanders. cab67 Feb 2020 #188

EXACTLY, ZM DENVERPOPS Feb 2020 #80

I can, he is the opposite of dotard. 5X Feb 2020 #140

Your answer doesn't make sense DENVERPOPS Feb 2020 #200

Bernie and Trump are two sides of the same coin dansolo Feb 2020 #212

+1000. ehrnst Feb 2020 #220

Putin is about chaos stopwastingmymoney Feb 2020 #229

As always, DU is both in AND out of step. dchill Feb 2020 #2

No more "out of step" than any given slice of the party. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2020 #3

No. Because usually young people don't vote. When they did, in 2018, they went for moderates Squinch Feb 2020 #4

Texas and California will be the next state to see Hispanics vote in droves for sanders jimfields33 Feb 2020 #9

And if they do, good for him. But so far all his promises of hordes of voters in his pocket have Squinch Feb 2020 #13

No matter what. I'd rather be in Bernie's position then any others jimfields33 Feb 2020 #15

Right now, yes. Lots of powerful people from all over are supporting him. Squinch Feb 2020 #17

Yep. jimfields33 Feb 2020 #20

Uh huh. Squinch Feb 2020 #22

That's a good one Squinsh. Butterflylady Feb 2020 #40

You know I wasn't talking about endorsements, right? Squinch Feb 2020 #41

Yep. musette_sf Feb 2020 #166

It looks like Trump wants Bernie to win and also wants to make the DNC appear corrupt dustyscamp Feb 2020 #202

If he is the nominee and loses...history will not be kind to Sanders...he will cost this party and Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #162

+ 1 musette_sf Feb 2020 #167

Good thing he's not going to lose jimfields33 Feb 2020 #175

Young Hispanic are more with Bernie, older ones are not and will not vote for a socialist. boston bean Feb 2020 #25

Lighten up. Let the rank and file choose. Hillary was a moderate, supported by the democratic johnthewoodworker Feb 2020 #58

Well, the rank and file and...others. Squinch Feb 2020 #145

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2020 #150

Trying to smear and bait someone by attacking a straw man is also not a good look. ehrnst Feb 2020 #159

Lost the general to Putin. He helped her opponent. delisen Feb 2020 #231

I've tried tellin peeps this, which is part of what's drivin Bernie's inevitability... InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #203

People always want a simple narrative, don't they? CBHagman Feb 2020 #141

I am closely watching the direction of young voters randr Feb 2020 #5

DU, from my lurking, skews a lot older Sympthsical Feb 2020 #6

Hmmm. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2020 #31

I for one older voter here do not buy the utopian world Butterflylady Feb 2020 #43

It's really not Sympthsical Feb 2020 #60

Someone with people skills gets far more accomplished than someone who is always ehrnst Feb 2020 #154

That's why I want Warren over him Sympthsical Feb 2020 #173

I don't buy that. dbolski Feb 2020 #174

As another older voter, I've been waiting for a candidate like Bernie since the 1980s. denverbill Feb 2020 #65

Me too... thankfully, the long wait is OVER!! It's Bernie's time now & he'll get the job done!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #77

I've been to the left of Bernie since the 70's, so I got no problem with his presidency. ancianita Feb 2020 #106

I'm with you. Those are darned good questions. PatrickforO Feb 2020 #151

He didn't do it by calling it a socialist program, and he had to lie about what it would cost ehrnst Feb 2020 #155

+1! tecelote Feb 2020 #211

Have you ever been in European countries or Canada or any other developed country? KSNY Feb 2020 #71

I lived in Europe for four years Sympthsical Feb 2020 #112

I lived in the UK. And I also know that they got started on it a lifetime ago. ehrnst Feb 2020 #157

But with a large turnout of new voters the Senate could swing... KSNY Feb 2020 #184

That does not change the logistics of this kind of upheaval of a system in TWO YEARS even it if does ehrnst Feb 2020 #185

Yes, and it is the reason why whatever Democratic candidate is elected, must have coattails KSNY Feb 2020 #189

Of course we need a Democrat. I feel that promising a complete overhaul of the ehrnst Feb 2020 #215

THIS x 1,000!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #228

"Utopian world." LOL Yeah, $15/hour utopia. SMC22307 Feb 2020 #207

I'm 60 y.o.and think Bernie is fine. Like his stance on the issues. johnthewoodworker Feb 2020 #62

Older lildDemz Feb 2020 #100

I'm older and I like Bernie. brutus smith Feb 2020 #119

It's not a truism Sympthsical Feb 2020 #132

Here's one older voter who likes Bernie Boomer Feb 2020 #147

I'm 37 and going for Biden. musicblind Feb 2020 #164

I'm 65 and Sanders is the candidate I've waited most of my life for. mike_c Feb 2020 #201

Has anyone ever run a poll to get a snapshot of the age range of DU members? InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #204

I'm 62 and paying $2,000 a month for hubby's healthcare and mine - it's breaking us. Liberty Belle Feb 2020 #206

Not scared of Bernie cherryinpa Feb 2020 #7

What is this math based on? PTWB Feb 2020 #47

"math"? TheRickles Feb 2020 #123

Sanders is dangling a $2+ trillion carrot in front of those young voters, $1.6 trlllion in student highplainsdem Feb 2020 #8

Well cherryinpa Feb 2020 #11

Other candidates are offering achievable plans, with reasonable price tags, that are targeted at highplainsdem Feb 2020 #16

"If he wins they definitely wont get that $2T" mitch96 Feb 2020 #88

Too bad republicans are not concerned about price tags. $1.8 trillion tax cut with a johnthewoodworker Feb 2020 #64

Maybe in their minds the government will just print more money. Baked Potato Feb 2020 #92

Isn't that demographic notorious for not voting? Nasruddin Feb 2020 #125

Usually. Though if they expect 5- or 6-figure financial windfalls, that might motivate them. highplainsdem Feb 2020 #127

Yep, Corgigal Feb 2020 #156

And let's say he writes an executive order for debt forgiveness instead of trying to octoberlib Feb 2020 #160

Has anyone done the math on defense spending and wealthy tax cuts vis a vis those promises? mdelaguna Feb 2020 #234

I have no info on DU demographics but Wabbajack_ Feb 2020 #10

Seeing how Bernie energized his base of young and Latinos to win in a landslide, u might be right Baclava Feb 2020 #27

I will decide whether "well-er" is a word while I wash socks. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2020 #34

Hope your washer is industrial-strength and has a long warranty dalton99a Feb 2020 #50

I do socks by hand. The washer is 72 years old. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2020 #52

I'm not well to do. I'm lucky to be able Butterflylady Feb 2020 #44

My suspicion too except the part about DUers being more well off nt VarryOn Feb 2020 #87

Way out of step. As Joy Reid said. "We underestimated the rage of people working 3 jobs" Autumn Feb 2020 #12

I's my party and I'll cry if I want to comradebillyboy Feb 2020 #14

The denial & fear of Bernie's candidacy will soon turn to acceptance then we'll all unite as a Party InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #18

I don't see the party uniting if Bloomberg is nominated. denem Feb 2020 #63

Neither do I The Mouth Feb 2020 #73

DU doesn't represent anything other than DU. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #19

Your post is so well said. Butterflylady Feb 2020 #49

Neither do you. brutus smith Feb 2020 #126

I "feel" the same way. pazzyanne Feb 2020 #83

Indeed. calimary Feb 2020 #102

I don't know. At least here I see a bit of balance. apcalc Feb 2020 #21

Yes. OliverQ Feb 2020 #23

The political reality is that to get a majority octoberlib Feb 2020 #24

Oh, please, oh please, make this an OP!!! Squinch Feb 2020 #26

This message was self-deleted by its author octoberlib Feb 2020 #29

Yeah. The long knives are out. And the Russian elves. I'm sorry to hear that. Squinch Feb 2020 #30

Please self-delete. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2020 #35

Bernie is the one and only Bernie Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #42

Oh, we understand it. Butterflylady Feb 2020 #57

Has everyone forgot about the 2016 election. We had a moderate democratic candidate that lost. johnthewoodworker Feb 2020 #72

That moderate candidate won the popular vote and was thoroughll vetted before the election. pazzyanne Feb 2020 #93

Maybe you should read up on Russian involvement in our elections delisen Feb 2020 #232

My guess is that I know about Russian involvement as much or more than most. pazzyanne Feb 2020 #235

So true. Desert grandma Feb 2020 #179

Agreed. So obvious. Yet, severe blinders, at both ends of the political empedocles Feb 2020 #28

Not scared of Bernie. I just don't like him. LakeArenal Feb 2020 #32

+1 dalton99a Feb 2020 #90

+1 pazzyanne Feb 2020 #95

+1. Paladin Feb 2020 #146

True. Dem2 Feb 2020 #192

+1000. ehrnst Feb 2020 #221

Yes, because much of the membership is older than Bloomberg. k2qb3 Feb 2020 #33

It's more that the Democratic Party Turbineguy Feb 2020 #36

DU is not representative of mainstream democrats, never has been but no big deal. beachbumbob Feb 2020 #37

Bernie's not playin games here...tRumpty Dumbty's an existential threat, which is why we need Bernie InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #70

This thread is fascinating, don't you think? Laelth Feb 2020 #38

It's often couched in ageism. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #198

I adore(d) Kucinich. Laelth Feb 2020 #209

Out of line in multiple ways karynnj Feb 2020 #39

Way, way, way out of step. And it's not just an age thing. Garrett78 Feb 2020 #46

So, I thought this was a place to come to discuss differences of opinions. pazzyanne Feb 2020 #99

The OP is asking for a judgement call. As are most threads, actually. Garrett78 Feb 2020 #103

+1 Gore1FL Feb 2020 #245

Are you factoring in Russia or discounting any role? delisen Feb 2020 #51

It doesn't matter who our candidate is, Russia will try to deliver a victory to tRump/Putin. Meadowoak Feb 2020 #69

I am talking about choosing a primary candidate delisen Feb 2020 #76

Bernie is not going to be effective...and there is a significant possibility Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #53

Even if most here are stuck in the past, they should remember this about their fear of a label 1952 lunasun Feb 2020 #54

BOOOOOOOOMMM!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #74

k&r for the truth. Laelth Feb 2020 #110

yes. booley Feb 2020 #55

Recommended. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #56

its possible them some don't consider themselves progressives. I, for one, have been backing yaesu Feb 2020 #59

The only thing we have to fear mountain grammy Feb 2020 #61

The Bernie bashing/hatred is unreal. "Moderates" need to get a fucking clue, settle down, TheSocialDem Feb 2020 #66

As a progressive democrat since 1980 who has seen numerous candidates fall to the wayside johnthewoodworker Feb 2020 #79

Hear here! K&R, nt. druidity33 Feb 2020 #190

Don't worry, the Baseless Bernie Bashing Backlash is REAL & why Bernie has the nomination wrapped up InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #84

This place used to be too cool for school IronLionZion Feb 2020 #67

I've had that feeling for awhile now. Mostly because we're more aware and prone to punditry. imo ancianita Feb 2020 #68

"Out of step" on a lot of things. And hypocritical as well oldsoftie Feb 2020 #75

DU is full of experienced folks who understand that Sanders will lose a general and give Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #78

I keep pointing out to people that our moderate candidate lost in the 2016 election. johnthewoodworker Feb 2020 #89

Hillary won by 3 million votes. rzemanfl Feb 2020 #98

Politics is about governing, it's not about free living bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 #81

Each generation has new visions and more skills to implement them than the last. Don't think ancianita Feb 2020 #101

I think the fear comes from the fact that Bernie can't win against Trump dlk Feb 2020 #82

+1. And people should care about the next four years under Trump dalton99a Feb 2020 #97

Another Trump term would mean the end of our republic dlk Feb 2020 #176

+1. And for climate change, EIGHT years wasted. dalton99a Feb 2020 #178

It's a pendulum swinging. Farmer-Rick Feb 2020 #85

Excellent. Thanks for posting. mahannah Feb 2020 #86

Bernie doesn't scare me, and I will vote for him if he wins the nomination. Nitram Feb 2020 #91

Hell no ismnotwasm Feb 2020 #94

Is it possible that... Pluvious Feb 2020 #96

It's not perfectly representative, of course. David__77 Feb 2020 #104

77, recent heart attack victim, won't release medical records. trof Feb 2020 #105

Lots of people like to be told they can have everything with no sacrifice or hard work. PubliusEnigma Feb 2020 #107

Man, I think that's EVERYBODY Nasruddin Feb 2020 #136

Yes. Out of step with most voters and Dem voters in particular. redqueen Feb 2020 #108

Son is voting this year Puppyjive Feb 2020 #109

Well said. Thanks for sharing that. It's their future and we're running out of time to address Evolve Dammit Feb 2020 #118

Out of step with the Dem party and out of step with the Dem voters may be two different things, too. thesquanderer Feb 2020 #111

Clairvoyant DoubleDeuce Feb 2020 #113

This old fart likes your post! burrowowl Feb 2020 #134

"strap a set on...." Nice comment on what it takes to have any courage... ehrnst Feb 2020 #218

I ain't scared DoubleDeuce Feb 2020 #238

Define "FREAKING OUT" ehrnst Feb 2020 #239

Same old.....same old. DoubleDeuce Feb 2020 #241

Reich DoubleDeuce Feb 2020 #242

And? ehrnst Feb 2020 #247

What is it "that we deserve?" ehrnst Feb 2020 #244

Crickets.... ehrnst Feb 2020 #246

So hard to say. DU has been around for... what?..20 years? NRaleighLiberal Feb 2020 #114

it appears that way... RazBerryBeret Feb 2020 #115

Agree. Out of step. zentrum Feb 2020 #116

Bernie is not a Democrat. He clearly states he is "I" for Independent. bitterross Feb 2020 #117

I think so too! BlueJac Feb 2020 #122

so interesting that NJCher Feb 2020 #130

Why? ismnotwasm Feb 2020 #135

Not at all interesting. I'm bitter for good reason bitterross Feb 2020 #138

Now that you have tried to insult me.. bitterross Feb 2020 #142

+ 1 musette_sf Feb 2020 #165

I was thinking the same thing haydukelives Feb 2020 #120

When I first discovered DU after W HootieMcBoob Feb 2020 #121

About this "young people go for Bernie" thing.... cab67 Feb 2020 #124

So True Kentuck. I too favor Elizabeth, Bernie would have been great in 2016. joanbarnes Feb 2020 #129

I think making any judgements about the direction of the party before Super Tuesday is nuts. n/t pnwmom Feb 2020 #131

DU has never been in step EarlG Feb 2020 #133

Hahahahaha. ismnotwasm Feb 2020 #137

It says a lot that DU apparently skews much more progressive than the Democratic electorate... W_HAMILTON Feb 2020 #240

Yup krakfiend Feb 2020 #143

Early Gen Xer here. Tink41 Feb 2020 #144

Well said Boomer Feb 2020 #148

Winning a plurality of 3 states does not indicate being out of step kydemo Feb 2020 #152

Yes, DU is... The 2016 nomination battle JCMach1 Feb 2020 #149

Nah. Jirel Feb 2020 #153

Most definitely DU is out of step. totodeinhere Feb 2020 #168

Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #169

Looking at the candidate preference percentages will tell you that DU is out of step. Kaleva Feb 2020 #170

I'll try not to be insulting, but... Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #171

Well, it seems out of step with my County Democrats, which are... TreasonousBastard Feb 2020 #180

So far we've seen two caucuses and lily-white New Hampshire... SidDithers Feb 2020 #177

Can we stop erasing voters of color BlueWI Feb 2020 #182

How many Latino voters voted in the Iowa caucus?... SidDithers Feb 2020 #183

NYT totals do not list a specific vote total for Latinos. BlueWI Feb 2020 #186

From your lips... joshcryer Feb 2020 #223

Agreed 100%. BlueWI Feb 2020 #181

Very much so Tarc Feb 2020 #191

DU skews older than the general electorate TexasBushwhacker Feb 2020 #193

DU fascinates me pizzaprincess Feb 2020 #194

"People wanted a progressive powerhouse." TwilightZone Feb 2020 #195

There were those who expected him to take the oath in a dashiki... ehrnst Feb 2020 #219

It's really fascinating the way get in a group insult, especially as a newbie. ehrnst Feb 2020 #217

Everyone my daughter knows is excited about Bernie, and these are young people who vote. Luciferous Feb 2020 #196

Good to hear!! GO BERNIE!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #205

Young voters don't like to vote, have been brainwashed about Social Security CousinIT Feb 2020 #197

Bitterness, not policies, seems to be their way forward. BeckyDem Feb 2020 #199

The young should not be the only ones who count wisteria Feb 2020 #208

After the primary: Vote Blue No Matter Who. Duppers Feb 2020 #210

Given how popular he is vis a vis the other candidates, the answer is clearly "Yes" Bonobo Feb 2020 #213

It is certainly out of step with younger Democrats who are progressive JonLP24 Feb 2020 #216

That says a lot about what you think of DU... ehrnst Feb 2020 #222

Depends on what you mean by the "Democratic Party" Steelrolled Feb 2020 #224

Democratic strategist Andrew Feldman said Sanders' consistent messaging may help him on some measure BigBearJohn Feb 2020 #225

I'm am not scared of bernie.. what scares me is what his divisiveness does to our country.. samnsara Feb 2020 #226

DU is a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of the American population. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2020 #227

My kids are 31 and 34 and they heartily dislike Bernie. lark Feb 2020 #230

I am a Millennial, and I am not for Bernie. IluvPitties Feb 2020 #233

Yes, for the most part. n/t MarcA Feb 2020 #236

I agree... is this because of 2016 and the feeling he sabotaged Hillary? budkin Feb 2020 #237

The great purge of a previous election skewed the politics of this site, to be sure. Gore1FL Feb 2020 #243