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Hoyt

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13. Everyone gets premiums, out-of-pocket costs, etc., will be converted to taxes, etc.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 03:03 PM
Feb 2020

But Sanders doesn't know what it will cost. Warren says it's 73% more than Sanders.

Some people might pay less, others might pay more. Small businesses that are barely making it and don't provide benefits, will now pay taxes. Maybe that is good to get everyone covered, but I think people would like to know how much it is going to be before voting for it.

And, on top of MFA, we have to pay for climate change, jobs training, deficit and debt reduction, bolstering social security, college debt, "free" college, child care, etc. How much is that going to cost. Again, it may be worth it. But I think most people want a RELIABLE price tag on these things.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
Interesting Sanders says MFA will cost about $30 Trillion over 10 years, Warren says it's $52 T. Hoyt Feb 2020 #1
Wow, I had not heard that $52T figure from Warren. SunSeeker Feb 2020 #3
The costs will be shifted from premiums copays Voltaire2 Feb 2020 #9
Everyone gets premiums, out-of-pocket costs, etc., will be converted to taxes, etc. Hoyt Feb 2020 #13
So when you wrote Voltaire2 Feb 2020 #19
Simple -- Sanders and Warren are trying to convince us we'll get all this stuff Hoyt Feb 2020 #21
Neither of them are doing that. Instead that is a standard rightwing talking point Voltaire2 Feb 2020 #33
It is when Warren says the middle-class and below won't pay a penny. That's Hoyt Feb 2020 #36
I wonder how much will be saved Turbineguy Feb 2020 #2
The suffering of dying for lack of care is incalculable. SunSeeker Feb 2020 #6
Maybe bunny planet Feb 2020 #4
Google: how much does the U.S. spend per year on healthcare? Democrats_win Feb 2020 #5
Also... Turbineguy Feb 2020 #8
That is not going to concern the average voter...they care about their situation and Sanders Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #14
he knows how much the F35s cost and he supported them anyway nt msongs Feb 2020 #7
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2020 #10
he will win neither. Deero Feb 2020 #12
He won't win Florida which has been trending red and he has a bad history with Castro. Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #15
. TexasTowelie Feb 2020 #22
last three months of polling n Florida disagrees with you uponit7771 Feb 2020 #26
Well since it's such a disaster I expect it will show in the S.C. and Tuesday primaries Nanjeanne Feb 2020 #11
The average American would pay 35-45% of their earnings in federal taxes stopbush Feb 2020 #16
Exactly. Bernie could have had this discussion with Vermont's law. SunSeeker Feb 2020 #18
The average american is paying around 5000/yr in out of pocket health care costs Voltaire2 Feb 2020 #20
No one believes Sanders on the cost uponit7771 Feb 2020 #24
Yes, I did. stopbush Feb 2020 #25
This scares the crap out of me C_U_L8R Feb 2020 #17
Cooper: Do you have -- a price tag for all of these things? Sanders: No, I don't... jus damn uponit7771 Feb 2020 #23
Is it me or are a bunch of the Bernie supporters/loyalists as NoMoreRepugs Feb 2020 #27
The BS vetting gets more serious. empedocles Feb 2020 #28
People may be perplexed at those not caring. David__77 Feb 2020 #29
Sanders possibly does not want to say it will come from military budget delisen Feb 2020 #30
Sanders still won't be honest with the American people about how much his plans cost Gothmog Feb 2020 #31
K&R Scurrilous Feb 2020 #32
K&R betsuni Feb 2020 #34
There BS goes again, promising things he can't deliver. onetexan Feb 2020 #35
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