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24. Swing states from wikipedia
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 05:12 PM
Feb 2020

If current trends from the 2012 and 2016 elections continue, the closest results in 2020 will occur in Arizona, Florida, Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, Nebraska's second congressional district, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin,[22] with Florida, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin constituting the "Big Four" most likely to decide the electoral college.[23] Other potential swing states include Colorado, Georgia, Iowa, New Mexico, Nevada, Ohio, Texas, and Virginia, all of which came within a 10 point margin of victory in the 2016 Election.

Search on [swing state] Sanders vs Trump and you'll get RCP's avgs from the last 3 months.

I'm taking out the snapshots for right now, they'll go back to pre primary like they did with in 08, 12 and 16
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
Sanders has no historical swing state appeal outside of MOE, Biden has the most uponit7771 Feb 2020 #1
Are you talking about polls? Or something else? thesquanderer Feb 2020 #4
Historical data nothing recent uponit7771 Feb 2020 #5
I'm confused, are you looking for really historical or for recent? But either way... thesquanderer Feb 2020 #7
Sanders has not bested Biden in the swing states in the last 3 months uponit7771 Feb 2020 #16
Oh, he rarely bests Biden. That wasn't the criteria I was looking at, because... thesquanderer Feb 2020 #18
There's no historical data, last 3 months where Sanders is beating Trump beyond MOE or uponit7771 Feb 2020 #19
MOST of the swing states? How many, and which ones? More qualifiers! But to start... thesquanderer Feb 2020 #20
Swing states from wikipedia uponit7771 Feb 2020 #24
Ah, the whole shebang! I was focussed on the big three that would have made a difference in 2016. thesquanderer Feb 2020 #26
Wiki narrows it to 4 and the last 3 months Sanders isn't beating Biden vs Trump, Ohio is lost imho uponit7771 Feb 2020 #27
Right, I've never contested that "Sanders isn't beating Biden vs Trump" only that... thesquanderer Feb 2020 #29
👍 uponit7771 Feb 2020 #31
Expanding on this... Mad cow Feb 2020 #9
You had me laughing here Rilgin Feb 2020 #6
Don't have to be at top of ticket Biden best all candidates in swing states against Red Don ... uponit7771 Feb 2020 #17
Bernie is doing better in most swing states than Biden. OliverQ Feb 2020 #32
Maybe now but Swing state polling goes back to pre primary post convention. Sanders isn't uponit7771 Feb 2020 #33
Sanders is doing better with the demographics that matter. OliverQ Feb 2020 #34
Better than what? luke warm? Again, snapshot data doesn't count. If there was a 3 month ... uponit7771 Feb 2020 #35
Swing voters are going to decide the election. RDANGELO Feb 2020 #2
And apparently on 2/3 of those find Sanders to be acceptable... NurseJackie Feb 2020 #8
That 2/3 is more than feel that way about Biden, Bloomberg, or ANY other candidate. thesquanderer Feb 2020 #10
If he's doing THAT poorly among Democrats... he doesn't stand a chance in the General Election. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #11
Look at those numbers again., He is NOT doing that poorly among Dems, because... thesquanderer Feb 2020 #12
He is a divider. He is a socialist. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #14
If you're not going to vote for anyone unless more than 2/3 of Dems are comfortable with them... thesquanderer Feb 2020 #15
It takes a lot of people to win a presidential election RandySF Feb 2020 #3
"Other people" are the people I had to turn out when I was a Party Ward Committeeman... brooklynite Feb 2020 #13
Prioritizing what "other people" think puts you in a weak position. Yavin4 Feb 2020 #21
You're wrong, I think. Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #25
"shirtless in Moscow". LOLOL R B Garr Feb 2020 #22
You're kidding yourself, I think. Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #23
I think you give people too much credit. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2020 #28
If it's not as bad as the cat grabber, don't worry about it. kentuck Feb 2020 #30
It's a very weak kind of argument. Aaron Pereira Feb 2020 #36
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