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Cal Carpenter

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11. MfA is NOT nationalized health care.
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 02:43 PM
Feb 2020

I would suggest reading the plans written & endorsed by Sanders, Warren and others before making such a false comparison.

As for the ACA - I have insurance through the ACA. Thank goodness, because otherwise I'd have nothing. However, it becomes more expensive each year - I am currently paying around 14% of my gross household income on premiums alone. It could be a bit less, but the trade off would be having a $12,500 deductible and we're too old to take chances like that. So my deductible is "only" $2500. Plus out of pocket for co-pays, prescriptions, dental, and optical.

It is FAR FROM BEAUTIFUL. My choices decrease every year, as private insurers pull out of county after county, which complicates things in terms of in-network specialists. My premiums increase each year and have become almost prohibitively expensive. And every year I have to go through the application process even though nothing on my end is changing. More than once I've been required to provide additional documentation to prove my income (even though they already have access to that information and it is always what I say it will be).

It is NOT beautiful, it has some good points and bad points, but the bottom line is that 80 million+ Americans are still under-insured or uninsured.

If we can't do better than this, in the richest country in the world, than we aren't trying hard enough.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
My government health care through the VA is top of the line. Ron Green Feb 2020 #1
VA won't scale nationally cherryinpa Feb 2020 #3
What do you mean "it doesn't scale?" Ron Green Feb 2020 #10
Here is what "it doesn't scale" really means ChubbyStar Feb 2020 #21
Why can't it? One less aircraft carrter would pay for it. marble falls Feb 2020 #26
My VA coverage is so-so. Many things are uncovered, others are difficult to get to... TreasonousBastard Feb 2020 #20
This old trope again. MoonlitKnight Feb 2020 #2
Have you lived and worked in the UK? cherryinpa Feb 2020 #4
I have not lived and worked on Mars either. MoonlitKnight Feb 2020 #14
Who cares? Sanders isn't proposing a UK-style system. nt MisterFred Feb 2020 #16
I was going to say the same thing Mad cow Feb 2020 #7
The United Kingdom's hospitals are owned by the government... HerbChestnut Feb 2020 #5
this is one type of 17 or 18 countries that have universal health care. Kurt V. Feb 2020 #6
ACA which gave us coverage for all, but choice and quality too. Prosper Feb 2020 #8
ACA actually gave us coverage for more MoonlitKnight Feb 2020 #18
LOL. Seriously? "Waiting lines" is a straight RW talking point. DanTex Feb 2020 #9
There are lots of right wing talking points used here against m4a redqueen Feb 2020 #24
MfA is NOT nationalized health care. Cal Carpenter Feb 2020 #11
Not true in Canada Fiendish Thingy Feb 2020 #12
And those doctor shortages MoonlitKnight Feb 2020 #19
Well some of it is due to Canada's strict licensing requirements Fiendish Thingy Feb 2020 #22
Yep MoonlitKnight Feb 2020 #25
??? We don't have to look abroad. Medicare & the VA are already gov't run healthcare. nt MisterFred Feb 2020 #13
I wouldn't even worry about it, it won't pass for a long time AlexSFCA Feb 2020 #15
Liberal Ezra Klein at liberal Vox explained last month that there IS rationing with the NHS: highplainsdem Feb 2020 #17
I read that it's gotten worse recently democrattotheend Feb 2020 #23
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