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Fiendish Thingy

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25. Approx. 10% of "unpledged" delegates are lobbyists
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 12:59 PM
Feb 2020

Lobbyists who play both sides of the aisle, or sometime just one:

WILLIAM OWEN, a Tennessee-based Democratic National Committee member backing an effort to use so-called superdelegates to select the party’s presidential nominee — potentially subverting the candidate with the most voter support — is a Republican donor and health care lobbyist.

Owen, who runs a lobbying firm called Asset & Equity Corporations, donated to Sen. Mike Rounds, R-S.D., and Sen. Dan Sullivan, R-Alaska, and gave $8,500 to a joint fundraising committee designed to benefit Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky in 2019.

“I am a committed Democrat but as a lobbyist, there are times when I need to have access to both sides and the way to get access quite often is to make campaign contributions,” said Owen, in a brief interview with The Intercept. — theintercept.com/...


https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/2/27/1922660/-Superdelegate-advocating-for-brokered-convention-is-a-lobbyist-who-donated-only-to-GOP-this-cycle?utm_campaign=trending

So much for the myth that super delegates are chosen by the electorate...
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
Good point mcar Feb 2020 #1
LOL. That's not going to change how undemocratic having superdelegates is. DanTex Feb 2020 #2
The unpledged delegates were democratically selected by the voters AGeddy Feb 2020 #3
No they weren't. That's what makes them unpledged... DanTex Feb 2020 #4
Yes, they literally were AGeddy Feb 2020 #9
No, they weren't. Most are DNC insiders. DanTex Feb 2020 #14
False AGeddy Feb 2020 #16
Wrong. The DNC members like Tom Perez aren't elected by voters. They are elected by other insiders. DanTex Feb 2020 #17
Those 438 "others" FoxNewsSucks Feb 2020 #29
They are DNC insiders because they are members of a private organization. LiberalFighter Feb 2020 #38
That's fine but the op made a different and Voltaire2 Feb 2020 #40
They were democratically elected. LiberalFighter Feb 2020 #42
Nope. As documented across this thread, quite a few are simply appointed. Voltaire2 Feb 2020 #45
It doesn't matter if "voters" know or don't. LiberalFighter Feb 2020 #48
And why on earth would warren, Klobuchar or anybody running be superdelegates jimfields33 Feb 2020 #27
Did you vote for your representative and senator? Scoopster Feb 2020 #39
We voted for them to represent us in Congress. Voltaire2 Feb 2020 #41
They were selected for a specific job The Mouth Feb 2020 #43
It's called "representative" democracy for a reason relayerbob Feb 2020 #7
Yes, we are trying to elect a president to represent the people. DanTex Feb 2020 #8
"party insiders" aren't unpledged delegates. Only office holders chosen by voters. AGeddy Feb 2020 #10
LOL. Which voters elected Tom Perez? DanTex Feb 2020 #20
Lol. You don't know much about the process of governance in the Democratic Party, do you? ehrnst Feb 2020 #53
Revolutions don't really go well with elections. You do know the one denies the other, yes? LanternWaste Feb 2020 #22
Sure, it's real "undemocratic" to have delegates frazzled Feb 2020 #26
How do you feel about former Senator Fred Harris DURHAM D Feb 2020 #32
How about each person gets the same vote? Is that a problem? DanTex Feb 2020 #33
Lulzd. Voltaire2 Feb 2020 #5
They're not unelected. That's the point. AGeddy Feb 2020 #11
I first heard the term superdelegates on Russian TV. Walleye Feb 2020 #6
You were watching Russian TV in the 80s? Voltaire2 Feb 2020 #47
2016. RT was on a free broadcast channel for a while Walleye Feb 2020 #49
Ok 'cause they've been around since the mid 80's and they've been commonly referred Voltaire2 Feb 2020 #50
Being an ex-Vice President, Biden actually is an unpledged delegate.... George II Feb 2020 #12
Oops, my mistake. I'll fix. AGeddy Feb 2020 #13
No big thing. Obama and Bill Clinton are also unpledged delegates. Hillary isn't, but should be. George II Feb 2020 #15
numbers don't add up Pantagruel Feb 2020 #18
Yes, state reps as well. AGeddy Feb 2020 #19
Great list Pantagruel Feb 2020 #24
They have plenty of voice. FoxNewsSucks Feb 2020 #30
Crying emoji Pantagruel Feb 2020 #21
Just backspace over it. Sloumeau Feb 2020 #23
Approx. 10% of "unpledged" delegates are lobbyists Fiendish Thingy Feb 2020 #25
70 people. Out of 4700. AGeddy Feb 2020 #28
That's 70 too many. FoxNewsSucks Feb 2020 #31
70 people- out of 700 super delegates are lobbyists nt Fiendish Thingy Feb 2020 #34
Who are the other lobbyists? LiberalFighter Feb 2020 #44
I've been around since superdelegates were created and they've always been called that. doxyluv13 Feb 2020 #35
Their official name is "automatic delegates", also known ans "unpledged delegates" AGeddy Feb 2020 #36
You seriously think Nancy Pelosi has "a hostile outlook on Democratic elected officials"?... PoliticAverse Feb 2020 #51
not all superdelegates have been elected to an office. dumptrump1 Feb 2020 #37
There are several categories for automatic delegates. LiberalFighter Feb 2020 #46
I am opposed to superdelegates MichMan Feb 2020 #52
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