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marylandblue

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26. He lost to the charismatic JFK
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 09:08 PM
Apr 2019

then beat the equally uncharismatic Hubert Humphrey.

Do you think he would have won against RFK?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
jimmy carter v gerald ford. barely an ounce of charisma nt msongs Apr 2019 #1
Neither were charismatic but one offered a hopeful outlook Indygram Apr 2019 #3
Jimmy Carter was a charismatic campaigner in 1976 Otto Lidenbrock Apr 2019 #36
George HW Bush had charisma? hlthe2b Apr 2019 #2
He had more than his opponent Indygram Apr 2019 #6
The name was probably a factor in some quarters dalton99a Apr 2019 #29
NO WAY - Id much rather have a beer with Al Gore than that clown nt Kashkakat v.2.0 Apr 2019 #52
bush the first. Pretty dry after raygun Kurt V. Apr 2019 #4
I recall Barry Goldwater had zero charisma. I am sure that there were others too, that lacked... SWBTATTReg Apr 2019 #5
As opposed to the ultra-charismatic LBJ? comradebillyboy Apr 2019 #7
Really. I debated about putting his name out there too, but didn't. He was dry as a piece of ... SWBTATTReg Apr 2019 #12
Prior to so much media coverage it was slightly less important a factor Indygram Apr 2019 #13
Charisma how many candidates with it lost their elections? Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #8
It's not just about having charisma...it's about having more or better charisma than your opponent Indygram Apr 2019 #16
Your post made me think of the movie "The Candidate," with Robert Redford. Demit Apr 2019 #9
Charisma is subjective. nt DesertRat Apr 2019 #10
yup, most minorities don't find Reagan Bush or Trump charismatic JI7 Apr 2019 #15
Reagan had way more charisma than Carter or Mondale marylandblue Apr 2019 #20
I like the "dark charisma" term Indygram Apr 2019 #21
I see... Mike Nelson Apr 2019 #11
If you want to gauge the charisma of a Republican... Indygram Apr 2019 #17
I detest trump but it has nothing to do with "charisma" DesertRat Apr 2019 #19
Yes it is subjective but it can be partly measured in media attention. marylandblue Apr 2019 #22
I like Buttigieg's message but DesertRat Apr 2019 #25
Kamala has charisma sunnybrook Apr 2019 #35
Thanks for the welcome! Indygram Apr 2019 #23
Yeah I don't think Trump is charismatic at all sacto95834 Apr 2019 #48
To help put it into context Indygram Apr 2019 #49
I do see your... Mike Nelson Apr 2019 #33
Lydon johnson charisma? Richard Nixon charisma? delisen Apr 2019 #14
Truman should have lost to Dewey. LuvNewcastle Apr 2019 #18
Nixon had a sweaty lip, but no charisma. He won. Hassler Apr 2019 #24
He lost to the charismatic JFK marylandblue Apr 2019 #26
Hubert wasn't without charisma (compared to Nixon) dflprincess Apr 2019 #53
Also must keep in mind that only once in the last 17 elections has the same party won three in a row MichMan Apr 2019 #27
Correct, and now Trump has the situational advantage again Awsi Dooger Apr 2019 #46
I think the cycle disadvantage is why Biden didn't run in 2016 Indygram Apr 2019 #47
And in 2016? pangaia Apr 2019 #28
I was curious about that too, I read it the article and nothing about it. Looked and it's from 2012 Autumn Apr 2019 #30
Well, that would explain it. :)) pangaia Apr 2019 #32
I guess we have to go back to 2012 to find candidates that have charisma . Autumn Apr 2019 #34
Trump has charisma. (Though Hillary won the popular vote.) thesquanderer Apr 2019 #37
I always thought Hillary had charisma. It may have paled in contrast to Bills. Autumn Apr 2019 #38
Trump has the same kind of charisma that cult leaders have Indygram Apr 2019 #39
that's not really charisma. he is trash. a non white person that behaved like him JI7 Apr 2019 #40
HRC was the most qualified candidate ever... Indygram Apr 2019 #31
but she was charming in smaller settings and one on one JI7 Apr 2019 #41
Like someone else said, charisma is subjective. BlueStater Apr 2019 #42
I don't think actual charisma is subjective, however... Indygram Apr 2019 #43
The power he has over his cult isn't a charisma thing. BlueStater Apr 2019 #44
You're illustrating my point, though...not all charisma is good, and Indygram Apr 2019 #45
He doesn't inspire devotion in others. His followers just like the fact that he shits on Democrats, Autumn Apr 2019 #50
Trump is the opposite of charismatic. John Fante Apr 2019 #51
This is spot on. Charisma trumps (no pun intended) Dream Girl Apr 2019 #54
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