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Gothmog

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40. Rejection of the bernie bro phenomennon may be one reason
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 12:19 PM
Mar 2020



For all the talk about Sen. Bernie Sanders’s diverse coalition and progressive outlook (and all the questions about the “likability” of female candidates), it should not escape notice that the biggest group of Democratic voters — women — overwhelmingly rejected the Vermont independent.

In Michigan, women made up 54 percent of the electorate; former vice president Joe Biden won 58 percent among these voters, compared to 35 percent for Sanders. In Missouri, women also accounted for 54 percent of the electorate; they chose Biden 64 to 32 percent. In Mississippi, 58 percent of the electorate was female; women chose Biden 83 to 12 percent.

Go back to Super Tuesday. Biden’s median support among women was 12 points higher than Sanders’s (37 to 25 percent) but only four points higher among men. In all Super Tuesday state exit polls, women made up more than 50 percent of the electorate — reaching roughly 60 percent in some cases (e.g. 58 percent in Minnesota, 61 percent in Alabama, 59 percent in Maine). That reflects the huge gender gap between the two parties that has only widened during the Trump era.....

Women’s aversion to Sanders may also be a rejection of the Bernie Bros phenomenon — the obnoxious harassment and even threats directed at women (including journalists and union leaders, as was the case in Nevada). Plenty of women did not think it was the least bit improbable that Sanders told Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) he did not think a woman could win. The only other candidate whose campaign ethos is so infused with testosterone is Trump.

The degree to which Sanders has turned off women is a fundamental problem for the left, which contrary to its self-conception is largely white and male. It is hard to present oneself as the vanguard of a diverse party when your coalition on race and gender (but not age) looks like a Republican coalition. Moreover, it is impossible to win as a Democrat without the support and enthusiasm of women.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
Sanders is all about the white male in the 60's who doesnt have the privilege today of the past. LizBeth Mar 2020 #1
Bernie is Truly Getting Trashed Because Biden Is Running Even With Him TomCADem Mar 2020 #48
Very interesting and telling. Thanks. LizBeth Mar 2020 #50
He is the guy who was always begging for a "mercy f*ck" because we women had it so much easier Tumbulu Mar 2020 #54
+1 LizBeth Mar 2020 #59
he posseses the most abrasive of what are considered masculine behavior while biden has msongs Mar 2020 #2
+1 apcalc Mar 2020 #45
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2020 #3
He's the pushy old know it all we've had to endure our entire life. apcalc Mar 2020 #4
+1 KT2000 Mar 2020 #7
Exactly! OhZone Mar 2020 #8
GET OFF MY LAWN! SergeStorms Mar 2020 #10
+1 apcalc Mar 2020 #43
Wow. Exactly. we can do it Mar 2020 #32
👍🏻 apcalc Mar 2020 #44
me: Skittles Mar 2020 #5
Me too. CatMor Mar 2020 #34
Well put Skittles. rzemanfl Mar 2020 #51
Exactly! Tumbulu Mar 2020 #55
I believe that Sanders did tell Warren that... Sloumeau Mar 2020 #6
Because women are more pragmatic. Most of us know when we are being handed a line. Squinch Mar 2020 #9
I have known for years that women have much better bullshit indicators than men... TreasonousBastard Mar 2020 #13
"It's not enough for somebody to say, 'I'm a woman, vote for me!'" betsuni Mar 2020 #11
Oh gawd, I'd forgotten about that one. Maru Kitteh Mar 2020 #64
Women liked Obama a lot IronLionZion Mar 2020 #12
Because he's a bit of a mansplainer. Happy Hoosier Mar 2020 #14
Yes, this is true. He reminds me of my Dad a huge mansplainer. redstatebluegirl Mar 2020 #36
Simple, they are smarter than us. nt William769 Mar 2020 #15
The success of the Democratic Party in recent decades has MaryMagdaline Mar 2020 #16
well written-M4A, debt forgivness, free college is a lot of change-but that angry yelling man Sunlei Mar 2020 #17
That angry yelling man is fostering division that overrides any good he might be trying to do. MrsCoffee Mar 2020 #18
the division is the circular firing squad on ones own party, voters and people. Sunlei Mar 2020 #19
You are just making my case for me. MrsCoffee Mar 2020 #20
well, no need to make a "case" out of it..you remind me- Sunlei Mar 2020 #22
Bernie Sanders is part of the Silent Generation Patriarchy, really. MineralMan Mar 2020 #21
Quite a history and woman like Clinton were so strong, had to fight 10 times harder Sunlei Mar 2020 #23
Yes, exactly. At that time, it was almost impossible for a woman MineralMan Mar 2020 #24
I think they're a fairly similar generation. Sunlei Mar 2020 #38
Oh, yeah! I remember those days well. Many of us flirted with socialism The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2020 #37
Exactly. I suppose I shouldn't have been surprised by that, MineralMan Mar 2020 #39
Well articulated, and I really hate those guys Tumbulu Mar 2020 #57
The better question is "Why are men more likely to support Bernie than women?" StarfishSaver Mar 2020 #25
Good question empedocles Mar 2020 #27
Yup. Seems like white males are the outliers these days. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2020 #35
His Shoving His Flailing Hand & Pointy Finger In Women's Faces Says It All To Me Me. Mar 2020 #26
Aggressive, visceral, BS anger empedocles Mar 2020 #29
Aggressive - yes JenniferJuniper Mar 2020 #30
Trust Your Intuition Me. Mar 2020 #42
It's not only women who have that reaction to Bernie, though. Jedi Guy Mar 2020 #63
The juicebox revolutionaries' male privilege manifested itself. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2020 #28
I can't believe someone would even ask this---DUH randr Mar 2020 #31
Because Bernie treated me like a "Wham, Bam, thank you ma'am" until I need you again. GemDigger Mar 2020 #33
Rejection of the bernie bro phenomennon may be one reason Gothmog Mar 2020 #40
Look at how the campaign has leaked info against AOC... TomCADem Mar 2020 #47
I have four daughters...not all are old enough to vote...but three out of the four like Biden and Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #41
K&R ehrnst Mar 2020 #46
Calling Warren a liar on national TV didn't help. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #49
As an woman who supported (and adored) Elizabeth FM123 Mar 2020 #52
I'm a middle aged white woman born and raised in California stopwastingmymoney Mar 2020 #53
Exactly how I went with it. Tumbulu Mar 2020 #56
Thank you for saying so stopwastingmymoney Mar 2020 #60
We get annoyed by male entitlement and he's got a lot of it. nt gollygee Mar 2020 #58
I'm a woman who supports Sanders 100% iwannaknow Mar 2020 #61
He's every man who ever annoyed me. cwydro Mar 2020 #62
Two words: Joe Rogan. n/t Tarheel_Dem Mar 2020 #65
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