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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!

Response to Rilgin (Reply #71)

Tue Mar 24, 2020, 06:20 AM

105. So you have nothing, but attacks on Biden?

 

You don't have a revolution. That's what you don't get.

If you had a revolution, you would be winning right now. You're not.

Biden is also on the left side of our political spectrum--it's not a calculus. That's math, not a position. He's not pushing any debate that hasn't been pushed for decades now. We're tired of this hoary old canard that only St. Bern has ever offered single payer or economic justice or raising the minimum wage of any of the other false claims that get trotted out to prop up your candidate. They're just not true, and you're being insulting and divisive when you make such dishonest assertions.

As for your what if game, I'll play: You know how Joe Biden gets the ACA improved? By doing what BS never will: Working his butt off while also running for POTUS to help Democrats take back the Senate. He will be coordinating with every Democratic candidate running for the Senate to retain or flip seats to his side so he has a majority there. If we can have a normal campaign season (a big if), Biden will be attending more rubber chicken dinner fundraisers than you've ever choked down in your entire life to help raise money for down ticket candidates. He will be in their districts, promoting them at every turn. He will pick a VP who will be charged with doing all of those same things--and more. And all of those people that he supports? They will be busting their hump not only for their own campaigns but for his too, to get them all elected. They are all going to be working together to get each other elected. Because that's what PARTIES do.

Being part of a political party is very much like being in any other social pack. The people in the pack can't succeed if it's all dog-eat-dog, every person for himself. More of them get what they need when everyone works together for the good of all. And, yes, there's a huge amount of "you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours." But that doesn't have to be a bad thing. Not when it's done for the greater good. So Joe will go down to Arizona and support Mark Kelly, and shake hands and kiss babies and say all the right things--and Kelly will do the same for Joe in return. That's what the pack does when they have a goal they're working toward.

This is what Biden brings to the race that BS is incapable of comprehending, never mind accomplishing: The understanding that the election won't be all about Joe, and he alone won't get it done. He needs those Democrats running for office in Maine and Kentucky and Arizona and wherever else, because they know their local electorates and what will get them to the polls, better than anyone. And they need Biden, because the POTUS candidate stumping for them is campaign adrenaline that money can't buy. Because Biden understands that the party has to work together, to support each other as a team, and not just to get him alone into office, he has the better chance of not only become President, but flipping the Senate D again. He always had the better chance of succeeding at both in November than BS ever could have, for this reason.

As for your constant attacks on non-BS Democrats, try practicing what you preach. BSers need to stop being divisive and stop bashing Biden and those who don't agree with BS or his supporters--which you just did. You hardly have room to dictate behavior to us when BSers paint every criticism as an attack, and then pull passive-aggressive stunts to bully Biden supporters into silence by implying that the only divisiveness comes from our side. As if any BSer is in any position to judge on that issue. We're not the ones claiming that an opposing candidate has dementia. We're not the ones simpering the scurrilous right-wing memes like, "Where's Biden?"--when he's dominating the media far more than BS has to date. We're not the ones lying that our vote is being taken away if a candidate concedes.

BSers are.

When your candidate or his supporters warrant criticism, we have the right to express it. And if you don't like it, well, there's the door. Nobody's forcing you to stay.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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