Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
29. You Do Understand Simple Arithmetic, Sir, Do You Not?
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 01:49 AM
Mar 2020

You do understand how proportional allocation of delegates works?

You do understand that no quick 'knock-out' is possible, because each contender gets a delegate share apportioned to the share of a state's vote received?

If your answer is yes to all these questions, and it had damned well better be, if you are an old fellow commenting on matters political in a forum not known as a haven for people afflicted with a muddled mind, then you will be aware that under these practices an existing lead of several hundred delegates is insurmountable. 'Bernie' is getting roughly a third of the vote, and Mr. Biden the rest. To overtake Mr. Biden's lead, 'Bernie' would need to reverse this proportion, roughly doubling his share of the vote in all future contests. That is not going to happen. We both know it, and so does everyone else commenting on this forum. What will happen is that with each contest Mr. Biden's lead will widen, though owing to the practice of proportionate allocation, it will take some while to actually cross the line. Taking this for grounds to hope 'Bernie' has some chance is moonshine.

It is noted you did not engage the meat of the comment you have replied to. It is clear enough why 'Bernie' wants the contest to continue. He is not running for the Presidential nomination of the Democratic Party, 'Bernie' is engaged in an attempt to overthrow the 'Democratic Establishment', and in this attempt, has not the slightest regard for the damage he might do to the prospects of putting this cheap thug Trump out of office. "Bernie' is quite willing to see the people and the country come to the harm that would ensue should the cheap thug Trump remain in the White House, if only the 'Democratic Establishment' is brought low.

The question is, why do you set such value on making a futile gesture? You are of an age that ought to be well past nonesense like that. Futile but grand gestures are the business of young men, who are both angry and a little foolish. Their actions are understandable, given their inexperience of the world, and pride in coming into adult state. But things that are ornaments to a young man of spirit are often disfiguring to a man of mature years and wisdom. A devotion to futile gestures is one of these things. So the question naturally arises ---why? Do you lack wisdom? Have you preserved an indomitable immaturity through all your decades drawing breath? Or do you share the 'Bernie' purpose, and dedicate yourself to his nihilistic crusade? Are you of the view that the 'Democratic Establishment' ought to be broken, and that it is the chief obstacle to advancing left and liberal and progressive policies? Haven't you the wit to see that nothing can be done to achieve progress in the direction all of us here desire, unless the christo-fascist reactionary right is turfed out of office? How is it that you manage not to see that doing this is the chief duty of anyone who calls himself a leftist or a liberal or a progressive in the present peril facing our people and our country?







"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
And, BS Spent 4x More $$$$ to Lose than Joe Biden did to WIN! Cha Mar 2020 #1
Here's the best on its own.. Cha Mar 2020 #2
Reality Has Endorsed Bernie Sanders Gustavo28M Mar 2020 #42
REALITY HAS REJECTED Sanders and his AGENDA. Cha Mar 2020 #43
All of the voters haven't spoken yet. Paka Mar 2020 #3
Cancelling primaries that will prove nothing isn't sweeping anyone aside and reviling them.... George II Mar 2020 #8
I don't care if my vote doesn't change anything. Paka Mar 2020 #14
Okay, what will your PRIMARY vote mean except for self-satisfaction? George II Mar 2020 #22
And self-satisfaction is a bad thing? Paka Mar 2020 #27
When you're dealing with the health and safety of millions of Americans and.... George II Mar 2020 #33
It is for exactly that reason that valuable voices should not be silenced. Paka Mar 2020 #41
And, it's a Real Mercy Rule.. people are Cha Mar 2020 #16
There are primaries for other offices Sympthsical Mar 2020 #20
Yes there are, and in a number of states those are on different dates. In CT, our primary..... George II Mar 2020 #21
It's not so for every state Sympthsical Mar 2020 #23
Those elections will take place if Sanders drops out. Blue_true Mar 2020 #26
I think Sanders should concede Sympthsical Mar 2020 #35
Like you pointed out, there are local races and location issues that Blue_true Mar 2020 #37
Concession Of Defeat By 'Bernie', Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #9
But Senator Sanders hasn't conceded, Paka Mar 2020 #15
No, Sir, But He Should The Magistrate Mar 2020 #17
The last delagate count I saw, Biden had 1,151. Paka Mar 2020 #28
You Do Understand Simple Arithmetic, Sir, Do You Not? The Magistrate Mar 2020 #29
Men may give up futile gestures. Paka Mar 2020 #32
Always Pleasant To Have My Points Confirmed By An Opponent, Ma'am The Magistrate Mar 2020 #34
Perhaps DU is the wrong location for me. Paka Mar 2020 #38
Whether You Are Alone In Your Feelings Or Not, Ma'am The Magistrate Mar 2020 #46
So when do you call it quits? Blue_true Mar 2020 #25
This is no longer about winning the nomination. Paka Mar 2020 #39
Voters are rather clearly saying that they want Biden's prescriptions. Blue_true Mar 2020 #44
I simply believe all rational voices are welcome. Paka Mar 2020 #45
Preach! fallout87 Mar 2020 #31
The attacks do get tiresome. Paka Mar 2020 #40
Bernie Bros are MATH DENIERS LVZ Mar 2020 #4
Rejected? JoeDuck Mar 2020 #5
It always depends on the candidate and situation Hav Mar 2020 #6
No.. the OP got it Exactly right. Cha Mar 2020 #11
Rejection For One Office Is Not Rejection For Another, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #18
perhaps, jaxexpat Mar 2020 #7
Np "perhaps" about it... you can see the results from Cha Mar 2020 #10
Disagree Cha, jaxexpat Mar 2020 #12
Don't care. Facts are Facts and will be no matter how much Cha Mar 2020 #13
Not A Sustainable Line To Press, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #24
Kick! Cha Mar 2020 #19
The primaries are over? No way? fallout87 Mar 2020 #30
Have you seen any elections being held lately? HarlanPepper Mar 2020 #36
How 'Never Bernie' Voters Threw In With Biden and Changed the Primary Gothmog Apr 2020 #47
sanders is trailing by almost 40% Gothmog Apr 2020 #48
Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»Democratic Primaries»It's over Bernie! Voters ...»Reply #29