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The Magistrate

(95,244 posts)
38. You Press Well In Advance Of The Evidence, Sir
Thu Apr 9, 2020, 06:21 PM
Apr 2020

You do not know that 'most of the staffers requested Bernie to concede'. There have been reports of a total of three doing so, that began emerging a day or two ago. They were highly placed, and one was of long standing, but that hardly establishes 'most of the staffers' so urged Sanders. You do not even know their urgings are why Sanders acted as he did, and spoke as he did. It may be a reasonable surmise, but it is far from certain fact, given what has been made public to date.

The fellow with the name not worth learning to spell is not currently employed by Sanders, but he certainly enjoys 'favor at court', and people close to Sanders have amplified his voice. It would be foolish to attempt denial that he is typical of a goodly number of people proclaiming themselves supporters of Sanders on social media, in his extravagant lying and his reckless nihilism, which can only benefit the cheap thug Trump, and will do nothing to advance 'progressive' influence or policies. Persons still employed by Sanders have consistently posted up comments indistinguishable from his, and re-tweeted comments indistinguishable from his. One leading spokesperson just today is echoing and amplifying attack lines put into circulation on Daily Caller by Tucker Carlson.

People are generally fairly specific in their comments on the lies and smears and slurs engaged in by some supporters of Sanders. Those who misbehave are attacked. People have a choice whether to identify with the pedlars of lies and smears and slurs, and are not required to cry out that they are attacked themselves when such miscreants are described and denounced. That is a choice, but people who make it are consciously ranging themselves alongside these creatures, and cannot much complain if they come in for some of the righteous vitriol directed at the creatures they have leapt to defend. You could choose otherwise. You could denounce them as reckless and destructive elements, with whom you wish no association, and request Sanders do the same. Even if it means firing staff.

I will point out one more thing about the line you take. You have compared criticism of the excesses of people who lie and smear for Sanders with racism and tarring whole groups and similar tenditious nonesense. This is a common means employed to attack people on the left, who are supposed to be vulnerable to appeals to their better natures, and hear claims of the style you have adopted with an inclination to wonder 'do I want to be seen behaving like a racist?' It is a cheap trick that ought not to work so often as it does. I am immune to it, it does not bother me at all if someone thinks me a cruel and heartless beast, a hardened reprobate and foe of all that is holy by their lights. I know perfectly well who I am and what I am, and do not care a fig what you, or people with attitudes similar to yours, imagine me to be, or think it useful to picture me as.





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If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
If You Don't Want To Be Associated With Someone Say So Me. Apr 2020 #1
He was fired. Don1 Apr 2020 #2
Action Need To Be Matched With Words Me. Apr 2020 #3
Exactly LongtimeAZDem Apr 2020 #5
Stop Defending Him, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #7
... Me. Apr 2020 #9
... LongtimeAZDem Apr 2020 #11
Oh dear. I just looked at his twitter account OKNancy Apr 2020 #4
He is causing division. Don1 Apr 2020 #6
It's a reasonable inference when those who DO work for the Sanders campign say the same things: LongtimeAZDem Apr 2020 #10
Bri Bri is sending Fox videos out on Twitter. She works for him. Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #17
Exactly my point; when someone attempts to say that it's unfair to label all supporters like him, LongtimeAZDem Apr 2020 #18
Jane Sanders' glowing tweet three months after he was "fired"... George II Apr 2020 #46
"progressive votes" as opposed to what? no candidate has a claim to that mantra vs msongs Apr 2020 #8
Saying he works for Sanders when he doesn't is not cool. Don1 Apr 2020 #13
Jane Sander has retweeted and like his videos. He was hired by the campaign and when some of his Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #19
Example: George II Apr 2020 #47
So, are Orfalea's and Gray's and Sirota's values YOUR VALUES? Do you agree with their tactics.... George II Apr 2020 #28
No one is blaming all Sanders supporters for this idiot. TwilightZone Apr 2020 #12
And There-in Is The Hypocrisy Me. Apr 2020 #14
"Not All Sanders Supporters" is very much the same as the misogynistic "Not all men" arguments LongtimeAZDem Apr 2020 #16
He was fired by the campaign and then rehired by Jane Sanders DenverJared Apr 2020 #15
I thought I had heard he was rehired about a month or so ago. LizBeth Apr 2020 #20
He was fired by the campaign and then rehired by Jane Sanders NurseJackie Apr 2020 #21
link please that proves he was 'then rehired by Jane Sanders' TIA Celerity Apr 2020 #22
I don't belive that claims that he was actually put back on the paroll are correct, but so what? LongtimeAZDem Apr 2020 #23
Thank you. NurseJackie Apr 2020 #24
retweet does not mean a re-hire, there is a big difference, and you claimed he was re-hired Celerity Apr 2020 #26
that is not what was claimed. sorry, and now you claim he is 'working' for them, as opposed to Celerity Apr 2020 #25
Again. so what; his words are despicable, and the Sanders campaign re-tweets them. Your attempt LongtimeAZDem Apr 2020 #29
He's working for them. It's obvious. NurseJackie Apr 2020 #30
Objective truth matters. Celerity Apr 2020 #31
You made the point of his actual employment; your continued arguing only serves to deflect from the fact LongtimeAZDem Apr 2020 #33
I deflected from nothing. I asked for simple proof of a statement that I can find none for. nt Celerity Apr 2020 #34
She Is Correct, Sir, On The Point She Makes The Magistrate Apr 2020 #35
Quite correct; I acknowledged that in post #23 LongtimeAZDem Apr 2020 #37
Fair Enough, Sir --- I Had Not Noted The Earlier Comment The Magistrate Apr 2020 #39
Jane promoted his "work" in January. lapucelle Apr 2020 #42
I knew that already, but a retweet does not mean he was re-hired by Sanders, which was claimed and Celerity Apr 2020 #43
I wonder why Jane deleted her tweet. lapucelle Apr 2020 #44
First, no one blasted "all alleged Bernie supporters", the OP that you're presumably referring to... George II Apr 2020 #27
Matt what's-his-face is not a Sanders staffer. Don1 Apr 2020 #36
You Press Well In Advance Of The Evidence, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #38
Hasty generalizations about groups of people are a logical fallacy. Don1 Apr 2020 #40
So You Have No Rebuttal, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #41
They slyly have him working for them but not directly, due to his disgusting "I have a wet dream"... George II Apr 2020 #45
Well said. guillaumeb Apr 2020 #32
Orfalea's latest piece of work, posted on Twitter in the dead of night.... George II Apr 2020 #48
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