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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!

Response to Don1 (Reply #36)

Thu Apr 9, 2020, 06:21 PM

38. You Press Well In Advance Of The Evidence, Sir

 

You do not know that 'most of the staffers requested Bernie to concede'. There have been reports of a total of three doing so, that began emerging a day or two ago. They were highly placed, and one was of long standing, but that hardly establishes 'most of the staffers' so urged Sanders. You do not even know their urgings are why Sanders acted as he did, and spoke as he did. It may be a reasonable surmise, but it is far from certain fact, given what has been made public to date.

The fellow with the name not worth learning to spell is not currently employed by Sanders, but he certainly enjoys 'favor at court', and people close to Sanders have amplified his voice. It would be foolish to attempt denial that he is typical of a goodly number of people proclaiming themselves supporters of Sanders on social media, in his extravagant lying and his reckless nihilism, which can only benefit the cheap thug Trump, and will do nothing to advance 'progressive' influence or policies. Persons still employed by Sanders have consistently posted up comments indistinguishable from his, and re-tweeted comments indistinguishable from his. One leading spokesperson just today is echoing and amplifying attack lines put into circulation on Daily Caller by Tucker Carlson.

People are generally fairly specific in their comments on the lies and smears and slurs engaged in by some supporters of Sanders. Those who misbehave are attacked. People have a choice whether to identify with the pedlars of lies and smears and slurs, and are not required to cry out that they are attacked themselves when such miscreants are described and denounced. That is a choice, but people who make it are consciously ranging themselves alongside these creatures, and cannot much complain if they come in for some of the righteous vitriol directed at the creatures they have leapt to defend. You could choose otherwise. You could denounce them as reckless and destructive elements, with whom you wish no association, and request Sanders do the same. Even if it means firing staff.

I will point out one more thing about the line you take. You have compared criticism of the excesses of people who lie and smear for Sanders with racism and tarring whole groups and similar tenditious nonesense. This is a common means employed to attack people on the left, who are supposed to be vulnerable to appeals to their better natures, and hear claims of the style you have adopted with an inclination to wonder 'do I want to be seen behaving like a racist?' It is a cheap trick that ought not to work so often as it does. I am immune to it, it does not bother me at all if someone thinks me a cruel and heartless beast, a hardened reprobate and foe of all that is holy by their lights. I know perfectly well who I am and what I am, and do not care a fig what you, or people with attitudes similar to yours, imagine me to be, or think it useful to picture me as.





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primary today, I would vote for:
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