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thesquanderer

(11,967 posts)
47. re: "The OP is clearly calling-out the anti-Biden behavior. Nothing more, nothing less."
Thu Apr 9, 2020, 09:40 PM
Apr 2020

As I see it, what he is asking is, "with only one candidate remaining, how can anyone around here still be 'Undecided' ?" You are ascribing a particular motivation to the question, whereas it could also simply be taken at face value. But either way, my answers would be the same.

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Of course it's openly... anyone who makes public proclamations as we've seen here, and anyone who pretends to be "undecided" (as we see here) is giving the middle finger to Joe Biden and the Democratic party.

I meant it's not openly when it is done in the poll booth. (That's what I was talking about when I said "frees someone to simply make known who they would truly prefer in an ideal world" -- I meant at the poll booth. Sorry if that was not clear.)

As for displays of support on DU, it is currently not possible to display support (in the manner discussed in the OP) for any candidate other than Biden. Yes, someone could create a public proclamation as you say, but that's not what the OP here was talking about, nor what I was talking about. The only display option here (as discussed in the OP) is to choose Biden or to leave it at undecided. The latter of which is not necessarily a middle finger to Biden. It can be respecting the time honored tradition of keeping one's vote to oneself (again, no one is obligated to make this info public). It could be that you choose to vote for someone else to make your enthusiasm for that person known in a way that won't interfere with Biden's nomination (which does not necessarily equate to a knock on Biden). Or maybe you honestly have not yet decided whether you will choose to do that or vote for Biden. It could also be that you ALREADY voted for someone else in your primary. Or it could be that you just didn't think that changing your icon was important enough to bother with. Whatever. I think you're seeing middle fingers where they are not intended. Some may be dissing Biden, but there are so many other possibilities!

Here's a real world example of a similar thought process. After the last Biden-Sanders debate, my significant other said she didn't particularly care for either of them, and didn't care which of them won (though of course whoever it was, she would vote for him in November), so she said she'd still vote for Warren if she were on the ballot. You may not like it, but being a Democrat doesn't mean you sign up to be part of a mindless cult who all must think in lock-step with everyone else. She's allowed to have a mind of her own, and decide how she would personally like to express her Democratic ideals. Whatever she chooses to do, nothing she will do will help Trump in any way.

Personally, I saw pros and cons to both Biden and Sanders, and explained why I settled on Biden in the post referenced earlier... and for the reasons expressed there, I was committed to voting for Biden as long as there was any chance it could be a real contest. The funny thing is, I had given this no further thought since Sanders suspended, and had not even considered the possibility of not voting for Biden until this thread stirred me to think about whether or not that was still what I wanted to do, once it was certain that Biden would be the nominee regardless. So ironically, now I'm not sure how I'll vote! But I have plenty of time to decide about that. Actually, if I were to take the caption literally, "If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for:"... my honest answer would be I wouldn't vote. I already know Biden will be the nominee, and I would just stay home, since I am part of an "at risk" group, and don't need to take an iota of risk to merely make a statement, regardless of what that statement were to be. But we'll see when the time comes. (I also don't yet know whether there is any other race or referendum on my ballot that day.)
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
Some feel a need to still protest. nt zackymilly Apr 2020 #1
Or we haven't felt like doing it. forgotmylogin Apr 2020 #53
Yet here you are. n/t nolawarlock Apr 2020 #56
Why is the primary thing not shut down? mucifer Apr 2020 #2
Received/completed/mailed.. Maxheader Apr 2020 #3
Forget the words.......... MyOwnPeace Apr 2020 #4
Exactly this Ferryboat Apr 2020 #6
It's a passive-aggressive swipe at Biden, and a reinforcement of the "Lesser of Two-Evils" bullshit. NurseJackie Apr 2020 #5
Nonsense. There's no reason to assume it's a swipe at Biden. thesquanderer Apr 2020 #24
Only ONE party can defeat the GOP: DEMOCRATS. Only ONE candidate can defeat Trump: BIDEN. NurseJackie Apr 2020 #29
re: "That's a strawman because nobody is making the argument that anyone has such an 'obligation' " thesquanderer Apr 2020 #42
The OP is clearly calling-out the anti-Biden behavior. Nothing more, nothing less. NurseJackie Apr 2020 #44
re: "The OP is clearly calling-out the anti-Biden behavior. Nothing more, nothing less." thesquanderer Apr 2020 #47
No I will vote for him whole heartedly flying rabbit Apr 2020 #51
Aww! FoxNewsSucks Apr 2020 #52
Thanks for telling it like it is! emmaverybo Apr 2020 #55
As long as "undecided" is an option I will continue to select it Devil Child Apr 2020 #7
That's an indicating that you may not vote for Biden, true? George II Apr 2020 #8
It's an indication I'm not going to affix a Biden bumpersticker to my DU profile Devil Child Apr 2020 #9
It's clearly a snub of our party's nominee that looks a lot like pouting. NurseJackie Apr 2020 #10
I appreciate the passionate reply NurseJackie Devil Child Apr 2020 #12
"enthusiasm" is a media created attribute la-trucker Apr 2020 #15
OMG, thank you for this post. n/t Beartracks Apr 2020 #54
Charming... (not). I would have enthusiastically switched to Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author gristy Apr 2020 #11
Ignore it. TwilightZone Apr 2020 #13
lol la-trucker Apr 2020 #14
Because mostof us nykym Apr 2020 #16
I don't see any method for changing one's preference at this point. MineralMan Apr 2020 #17
The avatar is the D in a circle, FoxNewsSucks Apr 2020 #50
Because I may still vote for Sanders in the NY primary Dem4Life1102 Apr 2020 #18
Leverage? Let me ask you a question onenote Apr 2020 #45
Yes about Biden Dem4Life1102 Apr 2020 #46
Many DU posters refuse to come into this forum. So they never Celerity Apr 2020 #19
For some, the choice between VP BIden and a Nazi KitSileya Apr 2020 #20
I never bothered to select a candidate. NutmegYankee Apr 2020 #21
When they remove choices at the top, it automagically sets you to undecided mikelgb Apr 2020 #23
This is why. It's a default. Loge23 Apr 2020 #30
Because some people don't care that deeply about their internet flair Sympthsical Apr 2020 #25
hah, internet flair Don1 Apr 2020 #40
I was with Joe all the way from the beginning.... ProudMNDemocrat Apr 2020 #26
Well, at least it's not as bad a cockroach crawling across the page. lapucelle Apr 2020 #27
Blue, no matter who! polmaven Apr 2020 #28
I never changed it when my candidate dropped out, becacuse I had already voted in a primary. moriah Apr 2020 #31
Same here hurl Apr 2020 #33
When my candidate dropped out - pattyloutwo Apr 2020 #32
The real question is "With only one candidate, why do we still have the candidate pics in our sigs?" ExciteBike66 Apr 2020 #34
It's only been one day Kitchari Apr 2020 #35
Time for an update on realistic candidate choices Zambero Apr 2020 #36
I was for Warren, but the site changed it automatically when she dropped out democrattotheend Apr 2020 #37
Because most of us will be voting for the nominee. PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2020 #38
We're aware. I figured they'd get rid of it. jimfields33 Apr 2020 #39
I don't know.... quickesst Apr 2020 #41
For all intents and purposes Sanders is still trying comradebillyboy Apr 2020 #43
I will vote for the nominee... Last time I checked, JCMach1 Apr 2020 #48
I have supported Biden for a long time Meowmee Apr 2020 #49
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