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Undecided 44%
Elizabeth Warren20%
Joe Biden16%
Bernie Sanders10%
Pete Buttigieg5%
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Response to ecstatic (Original post)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 11:56 PM

57. I think so! Also, my concerns about Bernie/Warren

 

Yes, this is my dream team. Some of the legit worries that I've seen regarding the two are not unfounded, but I do think these two provide huge incentive to get out the vote:

A) Both extremely likable (each has a good combo of being warm but strong)
B) Both insanely intelligent
C) Relatively new to the scene and VERY new to the scene.
D) I actually feel like anything used against the two that is clearly homophobic or racist could create a huge backlash with independents. I've seen a few Republicans come out and support Mayor Pete already, which just boggles the mind (in a good way). He's tapping into something -- perhaps it's the calm, no b.s. demeanor.


As unfair as this is, the youth factor/sexy/hip vibe creates enthusiasm and support -- that whole "Democrats need to fall in love" sort of thing. Many people thought Obama could not win during the 2008 primary (including Hillary who actually said so explicitly), but the fact that he was new, hip, brilliant, and extremely likable, and could turn out all types of people is what I think sealed the deal. While I very much like Sanders and Warren and almost always agree with what they say, I'm worried they would be like John Kerry. They would be painted as boring, out-of-touch NE liberals. The video of Warren in the kitchen with her husband was used to depict her as an awkward nerd who is hard to connect to on a human level. I'm also not sure I see droves of college students or other groups we need, say, in Ohio voting for Warren. And do you remember Warren in the 2016 convention? There was so much hype, but I thought her delivery of the speech was rather poor; she did not connect well. Even the crowd seemed rather bored, and some could be seen just talking among themselves as if she wasn't even speaking. I was really surprised, actually. And disappointed. Unfortunately, a strong personality (even if offensive) motivates Americans.

Regarding Bernie, that curmudgeonly, oft-annoyed demeanor could wear thin? I just don't feel particularly inspired by his speeches; I feel tired. The visuals (as shallow as this is) aren't exactly awesome either -- head bandages from falls, red angry face, crazy hair... and we are still nearly two years away from any inauguration. Some may find that combo to be endearing, and maybe I would too if I thought he was talking to me instead of AT me...feels condescending sometimes. Of course, compared to Drumpf, he is absolute perfection.

So although I like them, I might be a bit worried to see them go against Drumpf. As we know, general polling is different from actual voters/turnout.

At the same time, I do hear the arguments against Mayor Pete, and how very risky it may be. As stated above, we NEED to win, so I also understand the idea that now is perhaps not the time to be taking potentially wild risks? Having said that, the heart wants what the heart wants!

Tough call. Still early, of course! I may just look at polling against Drumpf near primary election time and just go with the candidate who appears (!) to have the best shot. Because all of us know getting him out of office is of the utmost importance.

Am I way off here?
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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