Democratic Primaries

floppyboo

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84. the party's base isn't enough alone

Thu Apr 18, 2019, 01:22 PM

Apr 2019

The turnout for the last national election was abysmal, but the popular vote reflected the % of registered voters for each party, nonetheless. The electoral college sunk Hillary. Bernie is very popular in the mid-west/rust belt. AND he got independents behind his policies. Policies that are neither right or left or populist, or rather ARE all of the above.
'Right' you say? Trade. I'm not too crazy about all the isolationist ramifications, or at least, the popular appeal of this trend - in its raw and potentially xenophobic/tribalist appeal. This is one thing I wish Sanders would be clearer on. I do, however, fully support his stance on the importance of unions, which outside of the leadership of both parties, though def. falling hard on the Repub side, is popular with the working voters irrelevant of party.
I think he is the least divisive - and represents the least divisive tendencies from sea to sea.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Our Best Bet is Bernie [View all] tomhagen Apr 2019 OP

Nope. Nt Amimnoch Apr 2019 #1

Please God NO!!! nt jezebel321 Apr 2019 #2

NO. Cha Apr 2019 #3

He will be our best bet if he wins nomination, quite a lot of voting, vetting, etc., before that. Hoyt Apr 2019 #4

Not. ploppy Apr 2019 #5

NO. Bernie equals 4 more years of the orange stain Thekaspervote Apr 2019 #6

If sanders is the nominee, trump will win 45+ states in the real world Gothmog Apr 2019 #26

I doubt tRump will do quite that well ... but his win will be shocking nonetheless n/t SFnomad Apr 2019 #45

So true. efhmc Apr 2019 #108

No. cwydro Apr 2019 #7

No. madaboutharry Apr 2019 #8

This message was self-deleted by its author defacto7 Apr 2019 #106

Nope LakeArenal Apr 2019 #9

Nope. nt sheshe2 Apr 2019 #10

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO lunamagica Apr 2019 #11

No crazytown Apr 2019 #12

NO!!! NanceGreggs Apr 2019 #13

David Pakman? lapucelle Apr 2019 #14

I know, right?... SidDithers Apr 2019 #69

HELL NO!!!!! njhoneybadger Apr 2019 #15

No, it's not actually. BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #16

Wrong. dalton99a Apr 2019 #17

. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2019 #18

LOL! nt Kahuna7 Apr 2019 #19

No. nolabear Apr 2019 #20

I liked Bernie in 2016 before I voted for Hillary left-of-center2012 Apr 2019 #21

I want a time machine too! Celerity Apr 2019 #22

I watched to see the analysis delivered. WeekiWater Apr 2019 #23

Oh god, I certainly hope not. nt Codeine Apr 2019 #24

Messina Says Sanders Can't Beat Trump Gothmog Apr 2019 #25

Disagree Butterflylady Apr 2019 #59

FREE-dumb is not our solution to this country's problems. democratisphere Apr 2019 #27

No!!!! nt USALiberal Apr 2019 #28

Nope. I do not agree that Bernie is our best bet solara Apr 2019 #29

Yawn.....its time for some young blood Historic NY Apr 2019 #30

You did obnoxiousdrunk Apr 2019 #31

Yes, it's time to rally around Bernie. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2019 #32

He certainly has trump's support for the nomination. Jakes Progress Apr 2019 #42

In his true heartless chest, I'm not sure who scares him most. Funtatlaguy Apr 2019 #54

Trump really wants to run against a very weak candidate like sanders Gothmog Apr 2019 #66

trump wants to run against sanders Gothmog Apr 2019 #99

I think there's likely some truth there. n/t Beartracks Apr 2019 #113

If sanders is the nominee, trump will win 45+ states Gothmog Apr 2019 #121

Sanders's supporters accused the DNC of doing this in 2016. booksandpencils Apr 2019 #61

Yup, cuz Bernie's the Democrat with the best chance of puttin out the tRumpster fire. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #109

Nope!! He isn't he will give us 4 more yrs of dotard Thekaspervote Apr 2019 #114

Nope... Bernie will get the orange stain out... 8 years of progressive bliss. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #120

The guy who lost the primaries by 4 million votes and whose picks for 2018 mostly failed? pnwmom Apr 2019 #33

Bingo. Tipperary Apr 2019 #34

+1000. His endorsement couldn't get people elected. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2019 #55

I'm sorry, but no, it's not. CaptainTruth Apr 2019 #35

Kick and Recommend machI Apr 2019 #36

The rank and file voters spoke last time ... and BS didn't listen back then either n/t SFnomad Apr 2019 #46

Exactly right LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #48

The only one trying to overrule the rank and file are Sanders and his supporters booksandpencils Apr 2019 #62

They didn't, despite Bernie's campaign's efforts to do so. n/t namahage Apr 2019 #103

For What? Me. Apr 2019 #37

I'll take your money, lol. MrsCoffee Apr 2019 #38

No. Definitely not. highplainsdem Apr 2019 #39

'fraid not. oasis Apr 2019 #40

If you're betting on a second trump term, then yeah. Jakes Progress Apr 2019 #41

No. BlueStater Apr 2019 #43

March 17th 2020 MyNameGoesHere Apr 2019 #44

You're being generous ... March 3rd ... it will be clear BS won't be the nominee, again n/t SFnomad Apr 2019 #47

The Independent Senator from Vermont MyNameGoesHere Apr 2019 #50

Uh, that's a negative... ReformedGOPer Apr 2019 #49

I hate when the samplegirl Apr 2019 #51

Nope. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2019 #52

Go Bernie!!!! workinclasszero Apr 2019 #53

Don't you mean an audience at a Fox News event? TexasTowelie Apr 2019 #60

Other candidates have gone on Fox News booksandpencils Apr 2019 #63

too soon Kurt V. Apr 2019 #56

No thanks. TexasTowelie Apr 2019 #57

if thats true then we are all doomed. samnsara Apr 2019 #58

The world according to Sanders's supporters: booksandpencils Apr 2019 #64

Yep LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #70

No... Blue_Tires Apr 2019 #65

... BooScout Apr 2019 #67

No...nt SidDithers Apr 2019 #68

I can't believe all you people are refusing to anoint Bernie! It's his turn! LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #71

One of his more fervent supporters here told me recently BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #72

Where have I heard that before? namahage Apr 2019 #76

That was my response BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #78

That doesn't appear to be true, really. MineralMan Apr 2019 #73

No. He could not win a general. Despite all the noise, primary voting is a year away Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #74

Trump would crush Sanders as Bloomberg and Schultz will both run as indies to help stop the Bern Celerity Apr 2019 #75

NO. IT. IS. NOT! nt jrthin Apr 2019 #77

NO it is NOT katmondoo Apr 2019 #79

no EveHammond13 Apr 2019 #80

Sanders cannot turn out female and black voters - our party's base - in large enough numbers to win. LonePirate Apr 2019 #81

the party's base isn't enough alone floppyboo Apr 2019 #84

Without the party's base, it doesn't matter what white, blue collar, rust belt voters think. LonePirate Apr 2019 #86

Perhaps they feel they are the original foundation floppyboo Apr 2019 #88

Then their grasp on reality is as skewed as that of a typical Republican. LonePirate Apr 2019 #89

There were attempted coups on the FDR govn't floppyboo Apr 2019 #90

How is this not bashing? nt artislife Apr 2019 #130

There are no rules against criticizing white, blue collar, rust belt voters. LonePirate Apr 2019 #132

Who is the "their" in the post? artislife Apr 2019 #133

"Their" refers to "they" in the previous post which refers to white, blue collar, rust belt voters. LonePirate Apr 2019 #135

Can you see how it reads in the context of these reponses here artislife Apr 2019 #136

The least divisive?? He's the most divisive Thekaspervote Apr 2019 #115

No bernie no way. Jack-o-Lantern Apr 2019 #82

NO FUCKING WAY! lillypaddle Apr 2019 #83

Trump parades in a 2nd hand Bernie suit Bannon found for him floppyboo Apr 2019 #85

Only if you want 4 more years of trump. Andy823 Apr 2019 #87

No way. nt BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #91

All he talks about is a poll treestar Apr 2019 #92

No!!! OBrien Apr 2019 #93

No riverwalker Apr 2019 #94

Bernie is our best bet for four more years of Trump. comradebillyboy Apr 2019 #95

"The Liberal Case Against Bernie" JaneQPublic Apr 2019 #96

LOL! NurseJackie Apr 2019 #97

sanders is not electable Gothmog Apr 2019 #98

Not outside a small, 97% white state, he's not. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2019 #141

Absolutely not Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #100

If he wins the nomination, then Go Bernie! California_Republic Apr 2019 #101

Not! doc03 Apr 2019 #102

Dear God NO. Bernie is a loser in the GE redstateblues Apr 2019 #104

I would have considered Berne in the primaries until he failed to vote for Russian sanctions. 33taw Apr 2019 #105

I think not. defacto7 Apr 2019 #107

No way, no how, no earthly happening. efhmc Apr 2019 #110

Meh. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #111

Just reading the title of the posted responses artislife Apr 2019 #112

But reading all the nays about bernie... as a sanders supporter, does that not make you wonder? Thekaspervote Apr 2019 #116

No, I know this board artislife Apr 2019 #117

Bernie is hoping for a brokered convention. Gothmog Apr 2019 #144

Long loud fart noise. NBachers Apr 2019 #118

I'll take it! nt artislife Apr 2019 #134

Sure is!! Tiggeroshii Apr 2019 #119

Really? Gothmog Apr 2019 #122

Why do you post conservative opinions of Bernie? Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2019 #123

Are you denying that Russia spent a great deal of time and effort to promote sanders? Gothmog Apr 2019 #124

Are you denying Charles Johnson, founder of Pajamas Media, is a conservative? Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2019 #128

Russia heavily promoted sanders and is responsible for a great deal of his success in 2016 Gothmog Apr 2019 #131

"Inside the Russian effort to target Sanders supporters -- and help elect Trump" lapucelle Apr 2019 #140

Charles Johnson is quoting the report by Robert Mueller III. Are you denying what he says? George II Apr 2019 #138

ok ok ... this was funny the first 14 times it was an OP BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #125

When you realize this is definitely not happening..... Pachamama Apr 2019 #126

I'm not sure that I believe that... doompatrol39 Apr 2019 #127

Reccing for more exposure. This is a great clip for starting a discussion. Thanks for posting! emulatorloo Apr 2019 #129

Why did Russia worked so hard to support sanders? Gothmog Apr 2019 #137

That's just one of many questions that needs to be answered, and not swept under the rug ehrnst Apr 2019 #142

That would be a NO. Sparkly Apr 2019 #139

Nate Silver- Sanders Can Win, But He Isn't Polling Like A Favorite Gothmog Apr 2019 #143