Democratic Primaries

oldsoftie

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11. Not odd at all; they tax ALL their citizens. We dont. They have a sales tax. We dont.

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 08:59 AM

Apr 2019

Add it up; it matters.
nearly 1/2 our taxpayers pay zero or less than zero income tax. Yes, they pay Medicare & SS, but those are already existing programs.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Bernie Sanders and the Myth of the 1 Percent [View all] Voltaire2 Apr 2019 OP

I have no problem with him having money, I'm glad he's done well. Agschmid Apr 2019 #1

EXACTLY. The problem is billionaires. Not millionaires EndGOPPropaganda Apr 2019 #2

Moving the goalposts? BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #22

True. It's why we need Warren janterry Apr 2019 #3

The Myth is that the 1% is an evil cabal that votes exclusively in their financial interest. riverine Apr 2019 #4

Very well put. nt BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #23

Exactly. BlueMTexpat Apr 2019 #27

I'll go with Jimmy and Bernie on this. Go Vols Apr 2019 #28

I don't think they are "as fractured" as the rest odf the country. Tom Rinaldo Apr 2019 #33

Canapes. betsuni Apr 2019 #5

The other myth is that you can raise enough money by only raising taxes on that 1%. You cant. oldsoftie Apr 2019 #6

odd that other developed nations can provide their citizens with nice stuff Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #7

They don't pay their anesthesiologists $400,000 a year. riverine Apr 2019 #8

they work for their money so they deserve it. they put in years JI7 Apr 2019 #13

I just had a surgery a few months ago. The anesthesiologist was the cheapest part of my bill. oldsoftie Apr 2019 #14

that is a reasonable cost breakdown - note that the insurers didn't get a lot of that bill riverine Apr 2019 #15

It's not clear where our healthcare dollars are going, and nobody seems to want to know marylandblue Apr 2019 #16

Hospital costs top the list at over $1 billion riverine Apr 2019 #18

Did you mean $1 trillion for hospitals? marylandblue Apr 2019 #19

Well my case isnt a good example re: insurers. I self paid. Negotiated prices with each provider. oldsoftie Apr 2019 #20

How much went to insurance administration costs? marylandblue Apr 2019 #25

Not odd at all; they tax ALL their citizens. We dont. They have a sales tax. We dont. oldsoftie Apr 2019 #11

Ah so your problem is that we don't tax poor people enough. Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #24

You dont understand the magnitude of the revenue issue. Just jump to "the poor". Fine oldsoftie Apr 2019 #29

Excellent point. Right now, our needs for healthcare, education, Social Security, welfare, deficit Hoyt Apr 2019 #9

Which is why this silly MMT theory is gaining traction. riverine Apr 2019 #10

Oh we've been using MMT for wars and stuff for decades now, have you looked at the debt? Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #21

I'm glad to see you, with 37k posts, pointing out the OTHER thing everyone misses; oldsoftie Apr 2019 #12

A wealth tax partly solves that problem. marylandblue Apr 2019 #17

I agree, but it is only part of the solution. For example, I think Elizabeth Warren has proposed a Hoyt Apr 2019 #26

And then you'll get the message of post #24. oldsoftie Apr 2019 #30

Oh, you haven't been called a "corporatist" yet. Hoyt Apr 2019 #31

Kicked and recommended Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #32