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Spider Jerusalem

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19. fun fact: More 2008 Clinton primary voters didn't vote for Obama...
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 03:57 PM
Apr 2019

than 2016 Sanders primary voters who didn't vote for Clinton. But keep sucking on those sour grapes if it makes you feel better, I guess.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
It's a mystery, isn't it? shanny Apr 2019 #1
Food for lots of thought Cary Apr 2019 #2
As far as I remember it's been solidly at 8% since this system started. defacto7 Apr 2019 #27
Not really... SidDithers Apr 2019 #39
Yep, u are 100% correct, thats how i remember it too Baclava Apr 2019 #74
Bingo. tymorial Apr 2019 #80
Too simplistic a vuew unc70 Apr 2019 #104
Wait until Biden officially announces his candidacy next week, he'll probably spike.... George II Apr 2019 #3
Were you here in 2016? ZZenith Apr 2019 #4
I thought they all left for Greener pastures. Scurrilous Apr 2019 #6
I think they left for a popular spot in central New Jersey - the "Pine Barrens". George II Apr 2019 #24
Good one! Scurrilous Apr 2019 #55
Clever still_one Apr 2019 #130
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I recall being undecided, then as now Cary Apr 2019 #11
I am referring to the here and now, but ... Cary Apr 2019 #8
I fully addressed your point, if I understood it. ZZenith Apr 2019 #16
Wrong Cary Apr 2019 #18
Handwringing and negativity by whom? ZZenith Apr 2019 #20
Look up my prior opening post Cary Apr 2019 #30
vague and incomplete answers to questions about your post, not even providing a link... FreepFryer Apr 2019 #177
Yeah, you aren't the first to use that ploy. Cary Apr 2019 #180
Then your standard response, like your OP, is easily dismissed. Thanks for playing! (n/t) FreepFryer Apr 2019 #182
Read slowly: Cary Apr 2019 #184
Please. Make. Sense. (N/t) FreepFryer Apr 2019 #185
Read slowly: Cary Apr 2019 #186
Intelligent people do not feel the need to try to insult others intelligence. (n/t) FreepFryer Apr 2019 #187
Read slowly: Cary Apr 2019 #188
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Yes Sherman A1 Apr 2019 #10
Most of us switched to Clinton and are still here. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #31
I guess I fall into that camp. ZZenith Apr 2019 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author vanboggie Apr 2019 #132
Oooo Finally made the 8%... LakeArenal Apr 2019 #62
... sheshe2 Apr 2019 #93
Saw it with my own two eyes. ZZenith Apr 2019 #100
I wouldn't say 92%, but a good chunk. n/t Decoy of Fenris Apr 2019 #103
You were lurking in 2016? sheshe2 Apr 2019 #105
Lots of us are long-time lurkers before we post regularly. Decoy of Fenris Apr 2019 #110
I joined back in 2004 but because my internet provider went belly-up ZZenith Apr 2019 #113
Thanks! sheshe2 Apr 2019 #118
Laugh. Out. Loud. yardwork Apr 2019 #115
Driven off? mcar Apr 2019 #119
It became impossible to voice any criticism of the candidate's tactics ZZenith Apr 2019 #125
I saw the exact opposite mcar Apr 2019 #128
Plenty of "Good Democrats" whole-heartedly supported Sander's campaign ZZenith Apr 2019 #134
I am well aware that plenty of Sanders supporters voted for HRC mcar Apr 2019 #135
The scorched Earth policy worked both ways. I witnessed it. ZZenith Apr 2019 #139
So did we.. BS staffer in Michigan.. 2019.. Cha Apr 2019 #149
Yep. That was my experience too. Kentonio Apr 2019 #163
That happened on both sides, mate. Decoy of Fenris Apr 2019 #137
No one on this board ever used the word k#ke mcar Apr 2019 #142
They used it, just not on this board. Decoy of Fenris Apr 2019 #143
Nice goalpost moving mcar Apr 2019 #144
Most of them went to JPR of their own accord. Cha Apr 2019 #150
That is where he should be katmondoo Apr 2019 #5
It seems accurate to me Cary Apr 2019 #9
I think the 8% is an anomaly BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #12
Quite possible but ... Cary Apr 2019 #15
There is a lot of congeniality and respect BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #21
I think you meant to say "with impunity." n/t rzemanfl Apr 2019 #63
Thank you! I stand corrected. BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #69
De nada. n/t rzemanfl Apr 2019 #70
Maybe DownriverDem Apr 2019 #13
I love Uncle Joe Cary Apr 2019 #17
I know that you mean well, TexasTowelie Apr 2019 #48
Yeah, I don't like that, either.. Cha Apr 2019 #71
Totally did not know that. dhol82 Apr 2019 #106
Now I wonder which Uncle Joe you are talking about? still_one Apr 2019 #131
Waiting to see how the candidates... paleotn Apr 2019 #28
:) We can all vote only once, as opposed to posting 50 times, Hortensis Apr 2019 #14
fun fact: More 2008 Clinton primary voters didn't vote for Obama... Spider Jerusalem Apr 2019 #19
Meaning what? Cary Apr 2019 #23
Nope, I'd blame voter suppression and Russian interference, which had as sizeable an effect Spider Jerusalem Apr 2019 #37
It was a perfect storm but that doesn't negate the fact that if Stein voters had voted for Clinton Cary Apr 2019 #42
Stein voters were never going to vote for Clinton. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2019 #44
That isn't the point Cary Apr 2019 #49
More votes were affected by suppression and interference than Stein got Spider Jerusalem Apr 2019 #50
It isn't my fault that you missed the point Cary Apr 2019 #52
I understand what you said perfectly; the problem is that your argument is idiotic bullshit? Spider Jerusalem Apr 2019 #56
Not interested Cary Apr 2019 #58
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Wrong.. "stein voters" might have voted Cha Apr 2019 #152
You are correct mcar Apr 2019 #124
Stein also ran for President in 2012 on the green ticket . Obama won. nt Autumn Apr 2019 #140
The more mature, evolved response would be: Cary Apr 2019 #145
I made no mistakes. I didn't run for office so I don't need to figure Autumn Apr 2019 #146
Where did I say that you, personally made a mistake? Cary Apr 2019 #147
let's is a contraction of "let us." You and I. Autumn Apr 2019 #148
Brutally defensive Cary Apr 2019 #154
Brutally defensive? You got a little testy Cary because I told you Stein ran in 2012 and Obama won. Autumn Apr 2019 #157
It isn't my fault that you are defensive Cary Apr 2019 #158
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Stein ran in 2016 and trump won. And now three of Sanders' top staffers.... George II Apr 2019 #161
And how is it that does NOT BOTHER people Eliot Rosewater Apr 2019 #173
If you're a Democrat you should agree that WE have to be better in 2020. George II Apr 2019 #160
I can't do any better. I maxed out donating to my choice for the primary, caucused for him and Autumn Apr 2019 #162
"I was happy to move on from 2016 George. We all should." ehrnst Apr 2019 #167
"I was happy to move on from 2016 George. We all should." lapucelle Apr 2019 #168
...... ehrnst Apr 2019 #169
+1000. ehrnst Apr 2019 #166
I believe that to be inaccurate WeekiWater Apr 2019 #61
According to this, 25% defected to McCain, 5% didn't vote at all. Decoy of Fenris Apr 2019 #67
I'll stick with my original assessment. NT WeekiWater Apr 2019 #76
Why? It's demonstrably false and the stats linked above are considered common knowledge. nt Decoy of Fenris Apr 2019 #82
They do not. That is clear. NT WeekiWater Apr 2019 #90
Can I ask where you have contradictory information, other than opinion? n/t Decoy of Fenris Apr 2019 #92
There you go again... citing inconvenient facts. Common knowledge is right!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #114
Humility in victory or defeat, friend. Quench your zeal in the waters of wisdom. Decoy of Fenris Apr 2019 #117
Well. sheshe2 Apr 2019 #120
Every one of us should be determined to avoid the mistakes of D.U. 2016. Decoy of Fenris Apr 2019 #123
To that end, then I'm sure you & everyone here agrees the extreme Bernie bashing should end, pronto! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #136
Sanders has fucked up several times. You can't deny that. Decoy of Fenris Apr 2019 #138
I find it odd 9% of Obama voters, voted for McCain in the GE. Agschmid Apr 2019 #94
Every election has some odd points. The Sanders/Trump supporters, the Obama/McCain supporters... Decoy of Fenris Apr 2019 #96
Yeah but why actually support someone in the primary, and bail in the GE. Agschmid Apr 2019 #97
Probably. Or right-wing Dems. Or something in the Debates that turned voters off. Decoy of Fenris Apr 2019 #98
Agreed. Agschmid Apr 2019 #101
In an electorate that votes for candidates based on height and hairlines, it doesn't surprise me... Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2019 #194
1 in 10 Sanders supporters voted for Trump in 2016, and another 1 in 10 eithere voted for Stein or still_one Apr 2019 #133
Fun Fact.. your "WhatAbout?" is Not Cha Apr 2019 #151
You misunderestimate us Fiendish Thingy Apr 2019 #22
I never said all Sanders' supporters were unreasonable Cary Apr 2019 #26
Sure. 3/4 Of his primary supporters Hortensis Apr 2019 #99
I don't find it odd at all that a website called Democratic Underground Mr.Bill Apr 2019 #25
Feel 'stifled?' Just ignore. elleng Apr 2019 #29
I have an agenda Ellen: Cary Apr 2019 #32
Naturally, elleng Apr 2019 #34
Apparently not. NurseJackie Apr 2019 #43
I am sure some here have another agenda Cary Apr 2019 #46
Post removed Post removed Apr 2019 #33
The Great Purge... SidDithers Apr 2019 #45
Speaking of a "great purge" after a grand total.of 3 posts? Cary Apr 2019 #47
Yeah. Subtle they ain't...nt SidDithers Apr 2019 #54
He read about it somewhere. marble falls Apr 2019 #102
A long time lurker, surely...nt SidDithers Apr 2019 #108
Frequent flyer. Someone needs a new sock. marble falls Apr 2019 #109
When I do the laundry I always come up one sock short of a match. sheshe2 Apr 2019 #122
You weren't here then. ehrnst Apr 2019 #51
DU was more welcoming to those on the left who weren't dedicated to Democrats. aikoaiko Apr 2019 #35
How do you define to "not dedicated to Democrats?" ehrnst Apr 2019 #78
They may mean "Dedicated 100% to Democrats." AKA, left-leaning Indies or ideological "Dems". Decoy of Fenris Apr 2019 #84
I'm not "Dedicated 100%" to any and every Democratic candidate ehrnst Apr 2019 #85
I think we may be two ships passing in the night. I'm not referring to you or anyone else. Decoy of Fenris Apr 2019 #87
TOS the one with initials DK has high Sanders support Funtatlaguy Apr 2019 #36
Daily Kos? That's a BS haven? Good to know... NurseJackie Apr 2019 #40
Lots of folk, Clinton and Sanders alike, got blown up in the 2016 wars. Decoy of Fenris Apr 2019 #41
I left. crazytown Apr 2019 #88
Bookmarking. n/t rzemanfl Apr 2019 #53
I'm a strong Sanders supporter. James48 Apr 2019 #57
You do understand that my point has nothing to do with supporting Sanders? Cary Apr 2019 #60
Or, many see no need to promote anyone at this point. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #64
You have my vote! Cary Apr 2019 #66
Many people are staying undecided to avoid preconceptions. TwilightZone Apr 2019 #65
Not directed at you, but Cary Apr 2019 #68
I agree. TwilightZone Apr 2019 #73
It is that simple Cary Apr 2019 #77
I'm not following Lazy Daisy Apr 2019 #72
Art is in the eye of the beholder Cary Apr 2019 #75
no thank you Lazy Daisy Apr 2019 #79
Some will, some won't, so what? Cary Apr 2019 #81
Why, Because He's Not Everyone's Choice Me. Apr 2019 #83
Most people aren't ideologues Cary Apr 2019 #86
It's really not that much of a mystery. Agschmid Apr 2019 #89
A lot of them Andy823 Apr 2019 #91
It's simple. We took a beating here after the 2016 Convention. Decoy of Fenris Apr 2019 #95
I don't know anything about twitter Andy823 Apr 2019 #112
Yeah. 2016 was rough across the board. Decoy of Fenris Apr 2019 #116
I don't know what you're referring to. A poll or something? nt Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #107
Poll at the top of the Democratic Primaries forum. TwilightZone Apr 2019 #159
K&R mcar Apr 2019 #111
My Revolutionary calculator converts it to 80% dalton99a Apr 2019 #121
I was a pretty staunch Sanders supported... Basement Beat Apr 2019 #126
Hmm, I tend to think the "Democratic" in the DU name says that most of us are ... Democrats. dawg day Apr 2019 #127
I said I.was fascinated, not surprised Cary Apr 2019 #141
I'm surprised... Mike Nelson Apr 2019 #129
Much like Sanders' Senate career, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. LonePirate Apr 2019 #155
Faulkner alluding to Shakespeare. Cary Apr 2019 #156
It's not particularly surprising at all. Kentonio Apr 2019 #164
Usually there are three sides to a story Cary Apr 2019 #170
I don't need outreach. I also don't need some grand debate about my beliefs. Kentonio Apr 2019 #171
None of that has anything to do with what I said. Cary Apr 2019 #172
I wasn't attacking you in the slightest. Kentonio Apr 2019 #174
I said you changed the subject to you, not that you attacked me Cary Apr 2019 #175
You literally said.. Kentonio Apr 2019 #176
Is your name "people?" Cary Apr 2019 #178
Ok, this is pointless. Kentonio Apr 2019 #181
I made a good point. Cary Apr 2019 #190
That is exactly why IMO people have chosen not to choose him in the primary forum. vsrazdem Apr 2019 #205
I like how Bernie pulls the party to the left. rainin Apr 2019 #179
My view is similar Cary Apr 2019 #183
Saying democrats are left leaning moderates is a little broad brush. rainin Apr 2019 #199
Democrats have a lot of diversity. David__77 Apr 2019 #201
You seem to be quite reasonable Cary Apr 2019 #203
What's wrong with "broad brush?" Cary Apr 2019 #202
To say democrats are left leaning moderates leaves out rainin Apr 2019 #206
If a majority of us are left leaning moderates then... Cary Apr 2019 #208
Fans of some candidates are very verbal, and seem to think that MineralMan Apr 2019 #189
In a way, yes. It is odd. Cary Apr 2019 #193
It is easy to understand when a voter looks at the best choices we have. democratisphere Apr 2019 #192
What do you find stifling? David__77 Apr 2019 #195
If you wish to understand you can easily figure it out. Cary Apr 2019 #196
Thanks for the reply. David__77 Apr 2019 #197
You are welcome. Cary Apr 2019 #207
There was a large exodus of Bernie supporters from DU JCMach1 Apr 2019 #198
Yep, a lot of them went to the JPR echo chamber LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #200
8%. Cary Apr 2019 #204
How sanders thinks he will win the nomination Gothmog Apr 2019 #209
Related Point: Sanders Haters Claim He's Not A Democrat Yet DU Classifies Him As Such corbettkroehler Apr 2019 #210
Meh. Not really. Sanders was my top choice in 2016... SMC22307 Apr 2019 #211
How about just being a better, more functional party? Cary Apr 2019 #212
My guess is that very few Americans are thinking in terms of... SMC22307 Apr 2019 #213
Interesting, Biden now 12% and Sanders still 8% Cary Apr 2019 #214
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