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emmaverybo

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56. We forget Clarence Thomas's competing claim
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 09:25 PM
Apr 2019

Last edited Sat Apr 20, 2019, 03:24 PM - Edit history (1)

Yes. I recall Biden was respectful. True, the committee men were seriously castigated. It was said that Kennedy shied away from defending Ms. Hill because he was hiding his own misconduct with women. But what we tend not to factor in when we deconstruct the hearing is the vigorous, angry, aggrieved claim Thomas made. He called the hearing a lynching. That moment was powerful and should be re-played today to get a fuller sense of social and political ramifications implicit in this pivotal event.

Ms. Hill was entirely credible, but her case could not be proven unequivocally while his claim spoke to deep and abiding racial discrimination that certainly Biden and Kennedy did not want to be seen as upholding. Here Thomas had risen to the heights professionally and a bunch of white men, he implied, were subjecting him to public humiliation, and so much more than that. They were the standard bearers for deeply ingrained, historic , institutionalized racism, out to take him down for the color of his skin. I don’t accuse him of playing the race card. He perceived the situation in those terms and one could not discount his strong defense as being made on behalf of all black men in America.
Yes, we have come to view Ms. Hill as representing all women, and in particular, all women of color.
But this was not then the universally shared view. It was a heart-breaking situation. More would be revealed to affirm Ms. Hill and show the conservative agenda at work. As was true recently, the Republican leaders should not have put Thomas forward given her accusations and her own credentials.
Not so easy then and shouldn't be now to boil down the forces at play to one issue
and blame Biden for the outcome.






If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
I remember he was one of the also rans in Iowa rurallib Apr 2019 #1
Yeah, I recall he got something like 1% of the vote...then dropped out fast, which was smart of him InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #31
I remember when he debated Sarah Palin Mr.Bill Apr 2019 #2
Presumably he won't be as tough on democratic opponents as he was on Palin. brooklynite Apr 2019 #4
I like the way he laughed at Paul Ryan: tblue37 Apr 2019 #32
Oh, yeah. I'd forgotten that. "Can I call you Joe?" She was such an idiot. Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #28
She did that because in debate rehearsals Mr.Bill Apr 2019 #38
I saw the movie (great movie..Julianne Moore was a dead ringer for her). Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #39
I didn't see that movie. Mr.Bill Apr 2019 #45
Great movie! "Game Change" Julianne Moore, Ed Harris, Woody Harrelson. Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #47
Yeah, I want to see it. Mr.Bill Apr 2019 #49
Julianne Moore was right on the money as Sarah Palin. argyl Apr 2019 #68
When I was watching the movie, I sometimes forgot it was Julianne Moore.... Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #69
The only thing I remember is his fantastic putdown of Giuliani. BlueStater Apr 2019 #3
plagiarism and gaffes janterry Apr 2019 #5
In 2008? crazytown Apr 2019 #64
I remember him being a strong candidate, not one to be pushed around yet level headed. nt yaesu Apr 2019 #6
But he wasn't janterry Apr 2019 #12
It imploded because that is what MSM wanted it to do, Biden got the Howard Dean scream treatment yaesu Apr 2019 #13
The plagiarism was caught by Mike Dukakis staffers janterry Apr 2019 #14
If he was good for the great president Obama BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #15
Nonsense janterry Apr 2019 #16
Since you always question everything - do you also question Warren's Native American Skya Rhen Apr 2019 #25
Oh, yes. I looked at that carefully janterry Apr 2019 #30
I'm afraid that's true. Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #44
I like Warren but that mistake has really hurt her campaign redstateblues Apr 2019 #53
Are you saying you are better than PBO BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #36
What on earth is wrong janterry Apr 2019 #50
Are you saying President Obama BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #52
Obama was pretty good at selecting the right people, I think. Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #29
So Slate is at again. Biden will beat Sanders. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #17
You didn't bother to look at it because it's old janterry Apr 2019 #20
I know exactly what is...Slate in the tank for BS. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #21
This article was written Aug 25, 2008 janterry Apr 2019 #22
Wow...well than I dislike it more,..Biden haters....they hated Hillary too. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #23
I'm responding to the OP janterry Apr 2019 #26
LOL - that is EXACTLY what the OP asked! LisaM Apr 2019 #34
We shall see. I want someone who can win the electoral college. And Biden Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #24
The coal miner plagiarism is a tough one becauuse part of his appeal is his authenticity. femmedem Apr 2019 #43
There's this report on the Neil Kinnock "plagiarism.. Cha Apr 2019 #63
Thank you! femmedem Apr 2019 #67
He always played loose with facts janterry Apr 2019 #66
Cant remember. iamthebandfanman Apr 2019 #7
40 year old shit. Biden can win the rustbelt...suggest you consider no other candidate can. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #18
I remember him being respectful. Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #33
We forget Clarence Thomas's competing claim emmaverybo Apr 2019 #56
Oh, yeah. Now that you mention it, I remember that. Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #57
Wow emmaverybo May 2019 #71
This is what I remember most. WeekiWater Apr 2019 #8
Boy that was great.Thanks. Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #35
Thank You, Weeki! Cha Apr 2019 #61
This larwdem Apr 2019 #9
I have to wash socks. BBL. n/t rzemanfl Apr 2019 #11
Is that what he said about Ghouliani? Too funny! nt Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #37
I remember a debate question about whether he could control rzemanfl Apr 2019 #10
I remember that, now that you mention it. It was great! Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #46
I vaguely recall him zinging the hell out of Ghouliani...but that's it. ecstatic Apr 2019 #19
Not really. Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #27
I don't remember anything about him and 2008. All I remember was I was voting for Hillary and UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #40
He made fun of the "Joe the Plumber" person. delisen Apr 2019 #41
I'm posting this without having watched it for the discussion. A 2008 campaign speech. CentralMass Apr 2019 #42
Joe stands between BS and the nomination. redstateblues Apr 2019 #55
Time will tell. CentralMass Apr 2019 #58
Age affects my memory too. NurseJackie Apr 2019 #48
In 2008, if your name wasn't Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama, running for Midwestern Democrat Apr 2019 #51
Not necessary to knock a man who devoted his adult life to public service. sarabelle Apr 2019 #54
Jimmy Carter was great at public service...but he was a lousy candidate. brooklynite Apr 2019 #59
he was excellent in the debates, especially on foreign policy karynnj Apr 2019 #60
On Joe Biden's Plagiarism, tempests in teapots Cha Apr 2019 #62
He got an F and it was in law school janterry Apr 2019 #65
He and Chris Dodd cancelled each other out Recursion Apr 2019 #70
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