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Hekate

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96. The person who mentioned "rage-driven campaigns" is on to something...
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 12:07 PM
Apr 2019

I thought the comparison by Mayor Pete had to do with economics, and was quite fair. Do we want to understand Trump-voters or not? Do we want to recapture some of them or not? Do we want to get the message to them that Democrats will actually work to improve their lives or not?

BS says he stands for each and every one of these things. So what's the beef with Democrats who agree?

But when you look at what else enables BS's campaigns, and the kinds of things his surrogates say that are never repudiated by BS himself (same as in the last presidential campaign), it brings the rage-driven aspect into very sharp focus.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
Ro Khanna Needs to retract his remarks crazytown Apr 2019 #1
It isn't just Ro Khanna. It's Nina Turner and James Zogby, too. highplainsdem Apr 2019 #6
Oh right ... the crew crazytown Apr 2019 #9
No. Jarqui Apr 2019 #30
The Young Turks sent people digging for dirt at South Bend crazytown Apr 2019 #35
vetting is part of journalism's job. nt floppyboo Apr 2019 #127
He is taking voters from Sanders. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #36
If he wasn't pulling many before ... he probably is pulling even more now n/t SFnomad Apr 2019 #97
That's also what I see. Corgigal Apr 2019 #107
The fact that Nina Turner is taken remotely seriously.... RhodeIslandOne Apr 2019 #43
She's the co-chair of his campaign along with Khanna. This after she boasted about voting for Stein! George II Apr 2019 #50
Calling Turner a Bimbo Would be An Upgrade! I See Panic Setting In Among the 78-Year Old Crowd! DoctorJoJo Apr 2019 #57
Turner was a big turnoff in 2016. Lonestarblue Apr 2019 #61
I hate to say it.... RhodeIslandOne Apr 2019 #66
Shows poor judgment nt BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #62
"Senator" Nina Turner, Senior Fellow at the Sanders Institute! lapucelle Apr 2019 #89
They are not people of honor DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2019 #104
Both ran last time as outsiders and a horrible percentage of Bernie Bros didn't vote for HRC. lark Apr 2019 #133
you are right still_one Apr 2019 #22
bernie boys Larrybanal Apr 2019 #77
Really strange.. BS surrogates attacking Cha Apr 2019 #2
Why is it always Sanders supporters who are attacking their 20202 Democratic rivals? lark Apr 2019 #3
They haven't learned Cha Apr 2019 #4
But they are genuinely concerned crazytown Apr 2019 #7
What ever!:) True Blue American Apr 2019 #34
There aren't that many rivals. n/t rzemanfl Apr 2019 #16
Because.... LovingA2andMI Apr 2019 #27
the gentrification, and awarding of contracts to donators is also being discussed floppyboo Apr 2019 #128
It is what they do. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #37
Will Bernie run again in 20202? lostnfound Apr 2019 #59
Yes mcar Apr 2019 #81
I've recognized that in the past - most of the other candidates' staffs.... George II Apr 2019 #85
Another reason not to support Sanders, he hired Manaforts' partner in Ukraine. lark Apr 2019 #102
Intolerance and spiteful indignation that anyone could possibly not support Sanders tymorial Apr 2019 #91
Personal attacks suck. floppyboo Apr 2019 #131
This! It is glaringly from one camp. R B Garr Apr 2019 #137
Weird? Not at all when you consider why: BS is losing support to PB so here come the knives. LonePirate Apr 2019 #5
I really like Pete. But yeah, It is intellectually dishonest to compare Bernie to Trump. Autumn Apr 2019 #8
on the subject of intellectual dishonesty dsc Apr 2019 #12
Clip? There is no video clip. The OP has tweets. Your post to me reeks of intellectual dishonesty. Autumn Apr 2019 #26
Post 2 and post 6 in this thread dsc Apr 2019 #32
Watched it. True Blue American Apr 2019 #39
I responded to a tweet which was in the first link in the OP. If there is a clip the OP should Autumn Apr 2019 #49
Except that Buttigieg didn't do that. He clearly compared Sanders' followers to Trump's LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #19
As I said, I like Pete. If he want's to compare me to Trump supporters that his perogitive. Autumn Apr 2019 #29
If Sanders supporters dislike being compared to Trump supporters, perhaps they should LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #46
All Sanders supporters are not the same, nor do they behave the same. Autumn Apr 2019 #54
What about the senior campaign staffers he's hired who have slammed the Democratic Party? ehrnst Apr 2019 #75
The people doing this are top-level in Sanders campaign. TwilightZone Apr 2019 #79
There is no way capitalism will ever be overthrown even if some want it. Most of us Autumn Apr 2019 #90
Ro Khanna isn't just some "Bernie supporter" - he's the campaign co-chairman... George II Apr 2019 #87
I'll take your lack of response as a "No comment at this time." ehrnst Apr 2019 #123
Exactly! And well said... BigOleDummy Apr 2019 #88
Here's the thing, Autumn True Dough Apr 2019 #20
Exactly, True Dough. Some are Cha Apr 2019 #33
Actually, this is what Pete said: ehrnst Apr 2019 #82
Here's the thing, True Dough. I responded to the OP and clicked on this link. Autumn Apr 2019 #52
In truth radical noodle Apr 2019 #76
There are videos in the OP showing exactly what Buttigieg said. Looks like they were added.... George II Apr 2019 #106
Thanks for the clarification True Dough Apr 2019 #108
Yes his credibility is thin now. As is the credibility of those who focus and flog the supporters Autumn Apr 2019 #114
Further to that... True Dough Apr 2019 #116
+1 LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #60
Exactly. But Bernie can handle it. He's the one candidate on the move to reach the most voters, ancianita Apr 2019 #83
there is much to compare Larrybanal Apr 2019 #84
"many of his supporters are petulant spoilers "? Autumn Apr 2019 #94
Well, except the ones who are Stein supporters ... SFnomad Apr 2019 #98
I really don't give a damn that some people who supported Bernie in 2016 voted for Stein. Autumn Apr 2019 #101
These aren't just "some people", those are their CURRENT titles under BS SFnomad Apr 2019 #109
I'm not responsible for who any politicians will use or who they surrounds themselves with. Autumn Apr 2019 #112
I guess I have higher standards then ... BS's current team helped the Democrats lose to tRump SFnomad Apr 2019 #113
I see how high your standards are. Good luck. nt Autumn Apr 2019 #115
Said politicians are responsible for who they hire & what those people say. If said politicians... Hekate Apr 2019 #117
Like I said, I despised Brock for what he did to the President. But I don't lose sleep over Autumn Apr 2019 #119
Is comparing how they both represent shaking things up disingenuous? Chemisse Apr 2019 #95
No it isn't disingenuous. Our country and our system needs a shake up. In 08 there were Autumn Apr 2019 #99
Fair enough. You make valid points. n/t Chemisse Apr 2019 #124
As always, great points Autumn Celerity Apr 2019 #125
Many Sanders Supporters (not all, but some) Have No Loyalty to the Democratic Party louis c Apr 2019 #10
+1. n/t rzemanfl Apr 2019 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author MrsCoffee Apr 2019 #21
THIS RIGHT HERE... LovingA2andMI Apr 2019 #31
And, BS' staff hires who voted 3rd party Cha Apr 2019 #38
Some on his senior campaign staff have been downright hostile to the Democratic Party. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2019 #41
True, because their not all democrats. vsrazdem Apr 2019 #53
That's true! David__77 Apr 2019 #70
Is there a list of candidates and their surrogates? Dorn Apr 2019 #11
I'm largely clueless on that front as well True Dough Apr 2019 #23
Turner is a Sanders co-chair. Zogby is a Sanders adviser and on the Our Revolution highplainsdem Apr 2019 #28
David Sirota, Nina Turner, Jeff Weaver, and Briahna Joy Gray are certainly on that list. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2019 #44
THis is why the "rapid response" team for any candidate BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #13
That kind of "everything that is not praise is a threat" response ehrnst Apr 2019 #55
Send in the Trolls. Never mind they're already here. Ford_Prefect Apr 2019 #14
....................................................................... still_one Apr 2019 #25
Often masquerading as supporters of other candidates BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #100
I was speaking to the frequency and intensity of bashing attacks on progressive candidates on DU. Ford_Prefect Apr 2019 #111
Perhaps Sanders' biggest weakness is his selection of people who speak on his behalf. thesquanderer Apr 2019 #15
I see a pattern in his selection, and in what they say. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2019 #45
Of course. Attacks are how these "surrogates" roll. Hortensis Apr 2019 #18
+1! Cha Apr 2019 #48
+1 nt Skidmore Apr 2019 #132
Another Here We Go Again Moment Me. Apr 2019 #24
But unfortunately, not surprising. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2019 #40
The bottom line is the Sanders campaign identifies Pete's campaign as MaryMagdaline Apr 2019 #42
You're not alone. floppyboo Apr 2019 #129
True - our numbers will only get smaller MaryMagdaline Apr 2019 #134
What I find very interesting is that the surrogates of only one candidate have been on a mission.... George II Apr 2019 #47
Oh yeah, I see this BS surrogate already starting Cha Apr 2019 #58
"Credentialed elitism"? Politicub Apr 2019 #51
and just another reason lillypaddle Apr 2019 #56
Of course they see the comparison. murielm99 Apr 2019 #63
It appears that the veritable gloves are coming off. nt littlemissmartypants Apr 2019 #64
Nothing weird about it BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #65
Lets hope things don't get too out of hand during the campaign season. nt yaesu Apr 2019 #67
That is weird. Looks like it's getting dirty. PatrickforO Apr 2019 #68
I Think We Need New Ground Rules for Political Campaigning in the Era of Trump - Russia panfluteman Apr 2019 #69
Look at this melman Apr 2019 #71
Yep. Even here people were like ohhhh burn! Good job Pete! Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2019 #92
Sometimes the truth hurts I guess BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #103
While I may not like the equation of Trump and Sanders voters... David__77 Apr 2019 #72
Well said MaryMagdaline Apr 2019 #126
I'm so surprised... radical noodle Apr 2019 #73
PB is our newest Progressive hope. Too bad he doesn't have a voting record to back up his rhetoric. jalan48 Apr 2019 #74
True Believers like some of Bernie's staff are the most problematic. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #78
It's not "weird", this is just what Bernie's staffers *DO* Blue_Tires Apr 2019 #80
This is repugnant, dishonest and dishonorable tymorial Apr 2019 #86
Thanks to Nate. elleng Apr 2019 #93
The person who mentioned "rage-driven campaigns" is on to something... Hekate Apr 2019 #96
According to many on here The Mouth Apr 2019 #105
This post is symbollic of the reason I won't support Bernie in the primaries. GitRDun Apr 2019 #110
They are "extremely weird" NastyRiffraff Apr 2019 #118
:) And employees are chosen for their attack-dog abilities. Hortensis Apr 2019 #135
Does anyone know that Buttigieg actually said? aikoaiko Apr 2019 #120
This: LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #121
Thanks. aikoaiko Apr 2019 #122
Does anyone have the number of registered Dem voters floppyboo Apr 2019 #130
Maybe they just wanted Cha Apr 2019 #136
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