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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,094 posts)
58. I dunno. Is it?
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 08:28 AM
Apr 2019

I used it because the confusion over timing, location and message before it came out didn't speak well to an old hand's rollout.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
Wasnt just civil rights MFM008 Apr 2019 #1
Perhaps, but I don't see that as a message that resonates with his voting base brooklynite Apr 2019 #2
That won't resonate with black women? Yeah OK. nt UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #18
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2019 #46
I'm OK with reality! nt UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #48
Women, primarily black women are the base of the Democratic party mcar Apr 2019 #49
+1. nt tblue37 Apr 2019 #84
Majority of white women vote Republican Kaleva Apr 2019 #95
So true, I am thankful for their presence and saidsimplesimon Apr 2019 #105
+10 Raster Apr 2019 #151
Yes! mcar Apr 2019 #152
Oh HELL YES!!! Raster Apr 2019 #153
So you think that white, non-hispanic voters won't vote for a POC for POTUS? ehrnst Apr 2019 #50
Sanders voted for the crime bill. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #101
Does that mean Biden didn't? shanny Apr 2019 #116
No but if that is disqualifying for Biden same is true for Sanders. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #142
no argument shanny Apr 2019 #145
Brooklynite, he spoke of America's CORE PRINCIPLES Hortensis Apr 2019 #66
He should have paraphrased that quotation rusty fender Apr 2019 #127
Ok, But I quoted as written assuming everyone Hortensis Apr 2019 #132
I know that's what you quoted rusty fender Apr 2019 #134
Some are just that way. No doubt hard on them, Hortensis Apr 2019 #138
Gold Bond, Aquaphor rusty fender Apr 2019 #139
I was just thinking that this has to be an irritating Hortensis Apr 2019 #140
Thank You for your Cha Apr 2019 #157
Agree it was a True Blue American Apr 2019 #27
Post removed Post removed Apr 2019 #40
An Appeal True Blue American Apr 2019 #44
why are you attacking Beto ? Biden is fine , no need for the ugly attacks on Beto JI7 Apr 2019 #45
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2019 #51
calling him a clown and criminal is an attack JI7 Apr 2019 #57
You called Beto a fraud, a criminal, and a clown, lapucelle Apr 2019 #60
Did he take his coffee on the way out? defacto7 Apr 2019 #141
I should have given him the whole box of donuts. lapucelle Apr 2019 #144
Silly. Remember when people thought the roll out of Hillary's logo boston bean Apr 2019 #3
Didn't say it was the end...but it raises flags for me... brooklynite Apr 2019 #4
Everything he said was the truth. I have no problem with it. boston bean Apr 2019 #5
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2019 #13
. TexasTowelie Apr 2019 #16
... BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #38
I thought it True Blue American Apr 2019 #29
What was your second impression? George II Apr 2019 #6
I didn't know he did impressions? still_one Apr 2019 #22
still-one, That was SO BAD, Lefta Dissenter Apr 2019 #64
LOL. I know. I couldn't help myself still_one Apr 2019 #73
Actually your comeback was far far better!!!!!!! still_one Apr 2019 #128
+1 LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #115
he has to win the democratic primary first and that's won through appealing JI7 Apr 2019 #7
Yeah, there is definitely a lot of weirdness around this. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2019 #8
No. that's your opinion. Cha Apr 2019 #10
Maybe other people love weirdness. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2019 #12
Maybe you just have Cha Apr 2019 #15
Yep n/t Bradshaw3 Apr 2019 #97
I am one of them. True Blue American Apr 2019 #31
Yes there certainly is *ahem ahem* nt UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #19
Why use the word "weird?" watoos Apr 2019 #24
I dunno. Is it? WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2019 #58
Yeah get that agesist shot in there Bradshaw3 Apr 2019 #99
Good call, I'll use "experienced" from now on. Thanks for the check. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2019 #106
What's wrong with the timing, it seems pretty good to me. George II Apr 2019 #125
It appears to have been very effective PatSeg Apr 2019 #135
I didn't see Biden's message as a Civil Rights message. democrank Apr 2019 #9
Yes. Cha Apr 2019 #11
yes JI7 Apr 2019 #14
Exactly. nt cwydro Apr 2019 #59
I think you are really off base here. This is for the SOUL OF AMERICA. nt UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #17
+1! Cha Apr 2019 #21
I disagree. This is a non-issue. If this is the most pressing issue facing Biden, then he will still_one Apr 2019 #20
This has always been Biden's message. ucrdem Apr 2019 #23
I loved it, ucr.. Cha Apr 2019 #25
I think he's off to a great start ucrdem Apr 2019 #30
Yes, he had a peaceful Cha Apr 2019 #34
Same here! True Blue American Apr 2019 #35
Taking the heart and soul of America Cha Apr 2019 #148
Moi aussi! Mme. Defarge Apr 2019 #86
Oui, Mme Defarge! Cha Apr 2019 #149
You couldn't be more wrong. WeekiWater Apr 2019 #26
Thank You, Weeki! Cha Apr 2019 #33
1000+ True Blue American Apr 2019 #41
This. cwydro Apr 2019 #100
His policies won't mean shit, watoos Apr 2019 #28
I think 2018 was won largely because decent people of both parties or no party are appalled by Trump femmedem Apr 2019 #32
I've been clear about this before: our winning candidates said that voters did NOT feel that brooklynite Apr 2019 #39
By Jove! I think you've got it. Citizen53186 Apr 2019 #83
Since tRump will most likely be on the ballot in 2020 Bradshaw3 Apr 2019 #102
It is a reelection...so I disagree. Trump must be held to account. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #103
Yes,it was. Reminding us of what our Country stands for. True Blue American Apr 2019 #150
Joe's going after American's with a sense of decency. Just like Obama would have, I'm good. dem4decades Apr 2019 #36
Perhaps you should take a meeting with him BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #37
Ad hominem attacks certainly wouldn't be part of the discussion... brooklynite Apr 2019 #53
I disagree Gothmog Apr 2019 #42
I just watched it and it made me tear up. madaboutharry Apr 2019 #43
I disagree, completely. spicysista Apr 2019 #47
lol ... stonecutter357 Apr 2019 #52
I just watched it and disagree mcar Apr 2019 #54
Somehow I'm guessing that Biden is not one of the cwydro Apr 2019 #55
First impressions can't always be trusted. ariadne0614 Apr 2019 #56
As a heterosexual old white man with problematic past mistakes, I salute rzemanfl Apr 2019 #75
Glad to see Joe confront white supremacy which is the central theme of the GOP dalton99a Apr 2019 #61
Me, too. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2019 #63
+1 ariadne0614 Apr 2019 #71
I wasn't aware that only one candidate can 'own' a civil rights message. ehrnst Apr 2019 #62
+++ plus over the next 10-12 years they need to get a new code word . Working class is already lunasun Apr 2019 #119
Disagree completely. Biden's announcement could not have been better. highplainsdem Apr 2019 #65
We tried to point out how bad Trump was in 2016 and it did not helpisontheway Apr 2019 #67
I'm sorry but your response made me giggle. watoos Apr 2019 #74
We have had 2+ years of him. boston bean Apr 2019 #76
I think Biden may go the way of Lieberman in 04. liberalnarb Apr 2019 #68
Yeah ok... he will beat Sander so there is that. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #104
We shall see. liberalnarb Apr 2019 #123
Not really...New Hampshire shouldn't be In play. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #133
Hmmm lunasun Apr 2019 #69
I didn't WANT it to go any way... brooklynite Apr 2019 #78
Focus on civil tights? That's not how it hit me. redstateblues Apr 2019 #87
Point to how I've been "anti-Biden". brooklynite Apr 2019 #89
How did the meeting go? n/t Laelth Apr 2019 #156
I didn't see it as a message about civil rights, so it would be hard for me to argue that slant lunasun Apr 2019 #91
Right on! True Blue American Apr 2019 #126
Against the Trumpian backdrop, Biden's act of sanity nearly seems deviant... Eyeball_Kid Apr 2019 #70
Its probably strategic. He may think he needs to appeal to black voters and to the left mr_liberal Apr 2019 #72
A fatal flaw of the Clinton campaign was assuming she had her base voters banked... brooklynite Apr 2019 #109
Instead they went with "Never Forget". It works for me. LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #117
did we watch the same ad???? samnsara Apr 2019 #77
For this thread Gothmog Apr 2019 #79
Joe stopped that one dead in its tracks this morning. nolabear Apr 2019 #147
Inspiring northoftheborder Apr 2019 #80
Gerard today snowybirdie Apr 2019 #81
He's not running in the general election... zaj Apr 2019 #82
It's a national emergency (stupid)! Mme. Defarge Apr 2019 #85
You've nailed it. Thank you for clarity of purpose. WheelWalker Apr 2019 #112
Money is the message. Prosper Apr 2019 #88
well said Locrian Apr 2019 #108
IMO voters who want to increase coal production, force tariffs etc. in hopes of personal $$ benefit lunasun Apr 2019 #113
Slogan Prosper Apr 2019 #136
The issue that got the votes for Hillary was economic. ehrnst Apr 2019 #154
2016 Prosper Apr 2019 #155
Do you have statistics that Hillary didn't get the majority of votes on economic anxiety? (nt) ehrnst Apr 2019 #160
Economic votes Prosper Apr 2019 #162
So that's a "no" on having data that supports your claims? ehrnst Apr 2019 #163
Exit polling??? Prosper Apr 2019 #164
So, you still have no data to back up your claim? ehrnst Apr 2019 #165
Trump won because Prosper Apr 2019 #166
That's not data that supports your claim about voters ehrnst Apr 2019 #167
Of course I own that Prosper Apr 2019 #168
I provided data to back up my claim, you did not. ehrnst Apr 2019 #169
Trump voters. Prosper Apr 2019 #170
As I said, I'm going on data from sources that I know have more expertise than I do. ehrnst Apr 2019 #171
Got it. Prosper Apr 2019 #172
I loved it. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #90
this is the beginning and it was a fine way to start. beachbum bob Apr 2019 #92
My first impression: Your first impression seems off to me. MineralMan Apr 2019 #93
This. nt OhZone Apr 2019 #94
Fighting white supremacy head on should be ALL the candidates' message. Drunken Irishman Apr 2019 #96
Great opening message! Bradshaw3 Apr 2019 #98
Biden's message is "This Is The Greatest Country In The World IF We Stand For Our Ideals" writes3000 Apr 2019 #107
Thankfully, you'll be posting negatives editorials on him... LanternWaste Apr 2019 #110
I see: we now have to provide evidence when we state opinions...good to know! brooklynite Apr 2019 #114
The most important issue today is the battle for the soul of America. Joe is damn straight. WheelWalker Apr 2019 #111
I agree 100%. The soul of America and "it's the country, stupid." Kahuna7 Apr 2019 #118
I stole it from DUer Mme. Defarge... WheelWalker Apr 2019 #137
Absolutely disagree peggysue2 Apr 2019 #120
Trump's racism is unacceptable. Trump wasn't president for all of Joe's life. This is a crisis. themaguffin Apr 2019 #121
Lol. MrsCoffee Apr 2019 #122
Strong civil rights supporter emmaverybo Apr 2019 #124
He's no Hickenlooper BeyondGeography Apr 2019 #129
Washington Post-Analysis: For Joe Biden, Charlottesville defines the Trump presidency Gothmog Apr 2019 #130
You don't have to be an activist to see what a historically divisive event Charlottesville was. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2019 #131
Nah, you couldn't be more off. brush Apr 2019 #143
Really? emmaverybo Apr 2019 #146
WAIT for it. Give the man a chance. Too many issues in one message is not helpful. sarabelle Apr 2019 #158
Trump needs to be challenged at every step Mr Tibbs Apr 2019 #159
Joe is on the right track and woke-domestic terrorism is out of control. New leadership is needed... Skya Rhen Apr 2019 #161
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