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In reply to the discussion: Bernie Sanders On Democrats Being A United Party At The 'She The People' Forum NBC News [View all]Gothmog
(143,998 posts)41. sanders is being vetted finally and it is amusing
No one took sanders seriously and so he was not vetted. Vetting is important I amso glad that sanders is being vetted this cycle https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/01/28/why-bernie-sanders-has-an-uphill-climb-ahead/?utm_term=.1b4f90c2a717
Finally, what happens when the oppo dump on Sanders comes? We have no idea, because it never happened in 2016. Clinton was so terrified of alienating his supporters and seeing them vote for Jill Stein in the general election (or not vote at all) that she tiptoed around him for pretty much the entirety of the primary campaign. That doesnt mean that hell be destroyed when stories about the more colorful aspects of his history start cropping up, but theres just no way to know.
Which is what we could say about the Sanders candidacy as a whole: Theres no way to know how its going to go. But hes got his work cut out for him.
Which is what we could say about the Sanders candidacy as a whole: Theres no way to know how its going to go. But hes got his work cut out for him.
See also https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/19/politics/bernie-sanders-2020-campaign-donald-trump/index.html?utm_source=twCNNp&utm_content=2019-02-20T14%3A52%3A07&utm_term=image&utm_medium=social%C2%A0
2. How will he withstand more scrutiny and more attacks?
One of the secrets to Sanders' success in 2016 was that no one -- most especially Clinton -- thought he had any chance of going anywhere in the race. Clinton largely ignored him for the better part of 2015, allowing some problematic parts of Sanders' record for Democrats -- most notably his voting record on guns -- to go unnoticed. (When the race began to tighten, Clinton gently prodded Sanders on guns and health care.) Sanders, too, largely flew under the radar of investigative reporters for major news outlets who were busy looking into Clinton, Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio and others seen as more viable candidates. (That reality clearly benefited Donald Trump in the early days of the campaign, as well.)
Sanders will get no pass -- from either the media or his fellow candidates -- this time around. He is among the frontrunners -- and will be treated as such. His wife's time as president of Burlington College could well come up. And his opponents will do a deep dive into his nearly 30 years of votes as a member of the House and Senate. This is all very normal stuff in a campaign. But not for Sanders.
One of the secrets to Sanders' success in 2016 was that no one -- most especially Clinton -- thought he had any chance of going anywhere in the race. Clinton largely ignored him for the better part of 2015, allowing some problematic parts of Sanders' record for Democrats -- most notably his voting record on guns -- to go unnoticed. (When the race began to tighten, Clinton gently prodded Sanders on guns and health care.) Sanders, too, largely flew under the radar of investigative reporters for major news outlets who were busy looking into Clinton, Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio and others seen as more viable candidates. (That reality clearly benefited Donald Trump in the early days of the campaign, as well.)
Sanders will get no pass -- from either the media or his fellow candidates -- this time around. He is among the frontrunners -- and will be treated as such. His wife's time as president of Burlington College could well come up. And his opponents will do a deep dive into his nearly 30 years of votes as a member of the House and Senate. This is all very normal stuff in a campaign. But not for Sanders.
Now we can see how sanders reacts to being vetted
Link to tweet
Among some Democrats, there was a sense of bewilderment that the Sanders campaign had goneas one operative put itnuclear over a mere web video. One Democratic consultant sympathetic to Sanders described the video as being like a gnat buzzing around your ear, one which should not have distracted from the candidates Midwest tour.
It also raised questions as to whether the senator was ready for the scrutiny that would come from being a frontrunning candidate, after having run as an insurgent against an ideal foil, Hillary Clinton, in 2016.
When youre leading in the polls of president of your party you should expect investigative stories to hit at least once a week and to be attacked by your opponents every day, said Ben Labolt, who served as press secretary to Barack Obama during the 2012 campaign. An attack on something like ThinkProgress is the sign of a super-narrow-minded campaign that isnt actually thinking of how the election will be won... They have chosen an establishment force that no one outside of the Starbucks at 16th and K would recognize.
It also raised questions as to whether the senator was ready for the scrutiny that would come from being a frontrunning candidate, after having run as an insurgent against an ideal foil, Hillary Clinton, in 2016.
When youre leading in the polls of president of your party you should expect investigative stories to hit at least once a week and to be attacked by your opponents every day, said Ben Labolt, who served as press secretary to Barack Obama during the 2012 campaign. An attack on something like ThinkProgress is the sign of a super-narrow-minded campaign that isnt actually thinking of how the election will be won... They have chosen an establishment force that no one outside of the Starbucks at 16th and K would recognize.
I am glad that sanders is being vetted
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Bernie Sanders On Democrats Being A United Party At The 'She The People' Forum NBC News [View all]
Uncle Joe
Apr 2019
OP
You're correct. BS did not answer the question. He did a little jig instead...
NurseJackie
Apr 2019
#33
He has lost the right to say the words "united" and "Democratic Party" in the same sentence.
sarabelle
Apr 2019
#49
LOL! Bernie gave a GREAT summary of his political vision. THAT'S how you win over Hillary voters...
InAbLuEsTaTe
Apr 2019
#5
If you were booed for marching with Martin Luther King, you should be irritated.
dogman
Apr 2019
#17
That's exactly what happened, Bernie no sooner got the words out of his mouth and in
Uncle Joe
Apr 2019
#36
Dunno, seems like the audience wanted to know what Senator Sanders has done lately and plans to do
emulatorloo
Apr 2019
#78
Martin's disapproval rating in 1963 was 50% and 75% when he died, the U.S population in 1963
Uncle Joe
Apr 2019
#85
It no doubt meant a lot in '63. The question now is has anything happened since 1963?
emulatorloo
Apr 2019
#80
Sanders will have a hard time winning the support of African American voters by wagging his finger
Gothmog
Apr 2019
#45
And while you're concerned about Bernie raising his finger to make a point...
InAbLuEsTaTe
Apr 2019
#46
He also raised his hand to vote FOR that bill. You're criticizing someone for writing a bill....
George II
Apr 2019
#77
Right and this is why Sanders is at the bottom of my list for the primary. Without social justice
Demsrule86
Apr 2019
#20
I have seen him campaign for Mello...say economic policies trump social justice...I will watch it.
Demsrule86
Apr 2019
#34
And that $15 minimum wage will be great, but meaningless to parents who are unfairly jailed
InAbLuEsTaTe
Apr 2019
#53
Yeah, but it's okay to write unfair crime bills that disproportionately affect minorities...riiight!
InAbLuEsTaTe
Apr 2019
#51
Yes, was disappointed in Bernie for that vote... but, the guy who wrote the Crime Bill should take
InAbLuEsTaTe
Apr 2019
#72
Why would anyone support that? You may want to ask Senator Sanders, who voted for that bill.
George II
Apr 2019
#75
Why do you think the audience thought that he was blowing off their questions? (nt)
ehrnst
Apr 2019
#89
"campaigning for Hillary harder than any other Dem"....not quite. The convention closed July 28....
George II
Apr 2019
#63
Bernie Sanders gets tough reception at minority women's event, signaling challenges ahead
Gothmog
Apr 2019
#27
It's rather ironic that Bezos' Paper speaks of "tone deafness," with them its more
Uncle Joe
Apr 2019
#40