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Gothmog

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41. sanders is being vetted finally and it is amusing
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:20 PM
Apr 2019

No one took sanders seriously and so he was not vetted. Vetting is important I amso glad that sanders is being vetted this cycle https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/01/28/why-bernie-sanders-has-an-uphill-climb-ahead/?utm_term=.1b4f90c2a717

Finally, what happens when the oppo dump on Sanders comes? We have no idea, because it never happened in 2016. Clinton was so terrified of alienating his supporters and seeing them vote for Jill Stein in the general election (or not vote at all) that she tiptoed around him for pretty much the entirety of the primary campaign. That doesn’t mean that he’ll be destroyed when stories about the more colorful aspects of his history start cropping up, but there’s just no way to know.

Which is what we could say about the Sanders candidacy as a whole: There’s no way to know how it’s going to go. But he’s got his work cut out for him.

See also https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/19/politics/bernie-sanders-2020-campaign-donald-trump/index.html?utm_source=twCNNp&utm_content=2019-02-20T14%3A52%3A07&utm_term=image&utm_medium=social%C2%A0

2. How will he withstand more scrutiny and more attacks?
One of the secrets to Sanders' success in 2016 was that no one -- most especially Clinton -- thought he had any chance of going anywhere in the race. Clinton largely ignored him for the better part of 2015, allowing some problematic parts of Sanders' record for Democrats -- most notably his voting record on guns -- to go unnoticed. (When the race began to tighten, Clinton gently prodded Sanders on guns and health care.) Sanders, too, largely flew under the radar of investigative reporters for major news outlets who were busy looking into Clinton, Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio and others seen as more viable candidates. (That reality clearly benefited Donald Trump in the early days of the campaign, as well.)

Sanders will get no pass -- from either the media or his fellow candidates -- this time around. He is among the frontrunners -- and will be treated as such. His wife's time as president of Burlington College could well come up. And his opponents will do a deep dive into his nearly 30 years of votes as a member of the House and Senate. This is all very normal stuff in a campaign. But not for Sanders.

Now we can see how sanders reacts to being vetted



Among some Democrats, there was a sense of bewilderment that the Sanders campaign had gone—as one operative put it—”nuclear” over a mere web video. One Democratic consultant sympathetic to Sanders described the video as being “like a gnat buzzing around your ear,” one which should not have distracted from the candidate’s Midwest tour.

It also raised questions as to whether the senator was ready for the scrutiny that would come from being a frontrunning candidate, after having run as an insurgent against an ideal foil, Hillary Clinton, in 2016.

“When you’re leading in the polls of president of your party you should expect investigative stories to hit at least once a week and to be attacked by your opponents every day,” said Ben Labolt, who served as press secretary to Barack Obama during the 2012 campaign. “An attack on something like ThinkProgress is the sign of a super-narrow-minded campaign that isn’t actually thinking of how the election will be won... They have chosen an establishment force that no one outside of the Starbucks at 16th and K would recognize.”

I am glad that sanders is being vetted
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
To be honest, I did not hear him answer the question. pangaia Apr 2019 #1
You're correct. BS did not answer the question. He did a little jig instead... NurseJackie Apr 2019 #33
Hmmm...... George II Apr 2019 #81
He has lost the right to say the words "united" and "Democratic Party" in the same sentence. sarabelle Apr 2019 #49
No he hasn't Mr Tibbs Apr 2019 #55
+1 LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #61
Of course you did... anyone who's fair and impartial did too!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #60
No he didn't. George II Apr 2019 #82
You want trump to be truthful right? Well it starts with you. wasupaloopa Apr 2019 #86
Great answer!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #2
He didn;t answer the question. pangaia Apr 2019 #37
No. sheshe2 Apr 2019 #62
He got the least warm reception overall, for sure. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2019 #3
No. Did not answer 'the question' left-of-center2012 Apr 2019 #4
LOL! Bernie gave a GREAT summary of his political vision. THAT'S how you win over Hillary voters... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #5
He needs to focus left-of-center2012 Apr 2019 #6
He needs to answer the people sitting in front of him. nolabear Apr 2019 #9
If you were booed for marching with Martin Luther King, you should be irritated. dogman Apr 2019 #17
He wasn't booed for marching with Martin... SidDithers Apr 2019 #19
That's exactly what happened, Bernie no sooner got the words out of his mouth and in Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #36
I believe the were reacting to what they perceived as "whitesplaining" LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #73
Dunno, seems like the audience wanted to know what Senator Sanders has done lately and plans to do emulatorloo Apr 2019 #78
Hmm sheshe2 Apr 2019 #84
Martin's disapproval rating in 1963 was 50% and 75% when he died, the U.S population in 1963 Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #85
And it doesn't? dogman Apr 2019 #38
It no doubt meant a lot in '63. The question now is has anything happened since 1963? emulatorloo Apr 2019 #80
+1, I bet what really means something is that the audience knows R B Garr Apr 2019 #58
Sanders will have a hard time winning the support of African American voters by wagging his finger Gothmog Apr 2019 #45
And while you're concerned about Bernie raising his finger to make a point... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #46
This message was self-deleted by its author Gothmog Apr 2019 #48
You mean the same crime bill that sanders voted for? Gothmog Apr 2019 #50
He raised his finger to vote for them...nt SidDithers Apr 2019 #65
He also raised his hand to vote FOR that bill. You're criticizing someone for writing a bill.... George II Apr 2019 #77
Not the one he was asked about. Actually listening to people is how you win ehrnst Apr 2019 #95
+1000. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2019 #88
I thought it was a great answer floppyboo Apr 2019 #7
Precisely!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #12
Right and this is why Sanders is at the bottom of my list for the primary. Without social justice Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #20
A $15 minimum wage is great, KitSileya Apr 2019 #23
Exactly right...without social justice, economic justice is meaningless. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #24
+1000. nt ecstatic Apr 2019 #25
If you had viewed the video, you would know that Bernie after criticizing Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #31
I have seen him campaign for Mello...say economic policies trump social justice...I will watch it. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #34
And that $15 minimum wage will be great, but meaningless to parents who are unfairly jailed InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #53
If that is a thinly veiled dig at Senator Harris' truancy law KitSileya Apr 2019 #59
Thank you, Kit. sheshe2 Apr 2019 #64
Indeed..... George II Apr 2019 #74
Yeah, but it's okay to write unfair crime bills that disproportionately affect minorities...riiight! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #51
BS voted for the 1994 Crime Bill. lapucelle Apr 2019 #68
Yes, was disappointed in Bernie for that vote... but, the guy who wrote the Crime Bill should take InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #72
BS voted for the Crime Bill and against the Brady Bill several times, lapucelle Apr 2019 #79
Why would anyone support that? You may want to ask Senator Sanders, who voted for that bill. George II Apr 2019 #75
Sanders Faces Skeptical Audience at Forum for Minority Women Gothmog Apr 2019 #28
Don't forget he supported Jesse Jackson in the '88 primaries comradebillyboy Apr 2019 #29
One of the only few... good for Bernie!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #52
Yes, that's TOTALLY and answer to what he would actually do ehrnst Apr 2019 #91
Why do you think the audience thought that he was blowing off their questions? (nt) ehrnst Apr 2019 #89
Cut Him Some Slack--After All, He Will Be 79 on Election Day! DoctorJoJo Apr 2019 #8
Seems to me most of the assholes out there today are 30ish floppyboo Apr 2019 #10
Yeah, the constant ageism schtick is GETTING OLD (pun intended.) InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #13
I Share a Birth Date With Biden, So I Resemble My Remarks! DoctorJoJo Apr 2019 #18
... Control-Z Apr 2019 #11
Seems pretty offensive how he ignored the question. NT WeekiWater Apr 2019 #14
Well, that's an odd question. Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #15
Sanders was asked the question because he famously said it was Hillary's Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #21
Exactly. nt Tarheel_Dem Apr 2019 #22
wasnt the only question he didnt answer. mopinko Apr 2019 #16
I was angered by that exchange. ecstatic Apr 2019 #26
Sanders kept mum on the DNC until after the general floppyboo Apr 2019 #35
I was at the national convention and that was not the case Gothmog Apr 2019 #42
Thank you for bringin this up!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #54
"campaigning for Hillary harder than any other Dem"....not quite. The convention closed July 28.... George II Apr 2019 #63
Was BS still a Democrat after the convention? lapucelle Apr 2019 #67
Be careful LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #70
Yes, that's what I'm saying floppyboo Apr 2019 #96
"campaigning for Hillary harder than any other Dem"... SidDithers Apr 2019 #66
He disappeared to write that million-dollar book. ucrdem Apr 2019 #69
Apologize for what? dogman Apr 2019 #39
BOOOOOOM!!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #56
..... ehrnst Apr 2019 #93
Can you provide sources for that claim that ehrnst Apr 2019 #92
It WILL be him!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #57
In an alternate universe, perhaps... ehrnst Apr 2019 #94
Bernie Sanders gets tough reception at minority women's event, signaling challenges ahead Gothmog Apr 2019 #27
Black women are not feeling the Bern. comradebillyboy Apr 2019 #30
If he's not ready for a question like that about a big part of the party base... brush Apr 2019 #76
Washington Post-Opinion: Bernie Sanders's week goes from bad to worse Gothmog Apr 2019 #32
It's rather ironic that Bezos' Paper speaks of "tone deafness," with them its more Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #40
sanders is being vetted finally and it is amusing Gothmog Apr 2019 #41
Looks like Bernie is getting some negative press in the MSM for the first time in history. Gothmog Apr 2019 #43
From the Washington Post Gothmog Apr 2019 #44
He dodged the question and showed contempt for the audience BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #47
I reminds me of the recording of the scientist from "I, Robot" LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #71
A successful Democratic President has to excel at thinking on their feet. emulatorloo Apr 2019 #83
You really want to keep this particular event kicked as a positive? ehrnst Apr 2019 #87
Notice the hand gestures. say more than his words. robbedvoter Apr 2019 #90
The party so "united" he doesn't want to be an official member? Blue_Tires Apr 2019 #97
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