Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

doompatrol39

(428 posts)
23. But that affected everyone
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 07:48 PM
Apr 2019

Not just the "rust belt" voters or the "white working class".

Sometimes people make it sound like there was some specific thing that happened which only affected white working class voters and not other groups, or more specifically other groups of working class citizens. But there wasn't. Shit happened, it affected everyone, but whites are the only one who seem to need to have their every insecurity pandered to.

Again, the reality of it may be that those people need to have their precious feelings preserved and pandered to in order for us to win. And maybe they only will vote for the old, straight white dude who isn't a socialist (and thus won't give "their money" to minorities). But then people need to say that instead of pulling the same bullshit that Republicans and their enablers in the media do of chalking it up to economic anxieties or "working class appeal" or whatever else when there's zero evidence whatsoever that Biden's history and his policies would be any better than any of the other candidates and in fact in many ways would be WORSE.

Yes, we do need to win voters in some key states we lost last time around. But to me it's even more insulting to the folks in those areas to assume that they are going to be so dopey as to just fall for some old folksy talk from Uncle Joe, with minimal to actually back it up.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
Because many voters vote on personality and not issues, consciously and unconsciously DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2019 #1
Yes Freddie Apr 2019 #2
Exactly PatSeg Apr 2019 #8
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2019 #10
How so? (nt) ehrnst Apr 2019 #11
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2019 #16
Who was saying this? (nt) ehrnst Apr 2019 #18
Yeah PatSeg Apr 2019 #12
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2019 #15
Yes PatSeg Apr 2019 #19
Typical for voters to want change every 8 years MichMan Apr 2019 #29
I suppose that is human nature PatSeg Apr 2019 #33
Agreed. clutterbox1830 Apr 2019 #34
Look at recent state wide elections and flipping of governors from Republican to Democratic Freethinker65 Apr 2019 #3
I suspect it was a combination of two things-- lastlib Apr 2019 #4
Remember after 2016 when we all agreed... doompatrol39 Apr 2019 #5
I never agreed that rust belt voters meant racist and sexist. marylandblue Apr 2019 #7
It is unfortunate that is true for a good amount of those voters Trenzalore Apr 2019 #20
But that affected everyone doompatrol39 Apr 2019 #23
Exactly! EffieBlack Apr 2019 #28
Quite frankly they'll turn on Joe just like they turned on Hillary Trenzalore Apr 2019 #30
Yep doompatrol39 Apr 2019 #35
No, we did not all agree to that. SMC22307 Apr 2019 #31
Because DownriverDem Apr 2019 #6
Biden is well liked personally, but many things he did are not popular. marylandblue Apr 2019 #9
He was also Obama's veep for 8 years. ucrdem Apr 2019 #13
Thanks to everyone for some insightful thoughts on this. Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #14
most didn't vote for Trump based on economy. Biden is an old white man JI7 Apr 2019 #17
That is a fallacy Trenzalore Apr 2019 #21
Mondale was 56 crazytown Apr 2019 #27
They didn't vote for Trump because of jobs and the economy EffieBlack Apr 2019 #22
I'm in PA and I can say for a fact FakeNoose Apr 2019 #24
Very interesting insight. Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #25
Yes I've been mentioning this on DU and others have too FakeNoose Apr 2019 #32
Let's be honest. Hillary was not popular there. She didn't show. redstateblues Apr 2019 #26
Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»Democratic Primaries»Question re Biden and the...»Reply #23