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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-29-09 12:27 AM Original message |
Taser ruling sets standards for police, claims |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-29-09 12:38 AM Response to Original message |
1. Excellent news, does it go far enough? |
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loudsue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-29-09 01:12 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Not far enough, but it's better than nothing. |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-29-09 10:31 AM Response to Reply #1 |
14. Comes down to the individual departments and how they choose to enforce themselves. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-29-09 01:10 AM Response to Original message |
2. it's the 9th circuit. it will be overruled. i'll bet anybody here |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-29-09 01:11 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Ah, dredging up right wing talking points about the 9th circuit |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-29-09 04:38 AM Response to Reply #3 |
8. i'm making a prediction and willing to make a bet |
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lazer47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-29-09 07:47 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. That is like saying, I carry a Knife and have never stabbed anyone |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-29-09 06:24 PM Response to Reply #11 |
37. no, it's not |
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Leftist Agitator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-29-09 07:11 PM Response to Reply #37 |
43. "i've never had an excessive force complaint of ANY kind, taser or anything else." |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-29-09 08:42 PM Response to Reply #43 |
51. hard to say but... |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-29-09 12:24 PM Response to Reply #8 |
23. do you believe it's a bad ruling just because Thomas, Scalia, Roberts, Alito and Kennedy overturn it |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-29-09 06:25 PM Response to Reply #23 |
38. you are making unfounded assumptions. |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-29-09 06:58 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. well here's what you said |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-29-09 07:03 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. no, it's not |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-29-09 07:21 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. As you said you didn't comment on the ruling and then you are being an ass to me |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-29-09 07:22 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. yep. it's a free country |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-29-09 07:28 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. i would give you space to be an ass if you were actually saying something |
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rantormusing (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-29-09 01:32 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. So this goes in the poor record pile? |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-29-09 04:39 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. i'm making a predictiona and a bet. |
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rantormusing (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-29-09 01:01 PM Response to Reply #9 |
28. Your bet is childish, |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-29-09 06:22 PM Response to Reply #28 |
36. translation: you won't commit to your opinion |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-29-09 06:59 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. and neither will you own up to your opinion |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-29-09 07:05 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. i am owning up to it |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-29-09 07:18 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. you didn't comment on whether you agreed with the ruling or not & you chide me for not taking sides? |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-29-09 07:21 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. i would rather be correct |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-29-09 07:26 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. you aren't discussing the substance of the thing |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-29-09 07:34 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. correct. |
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DesertDiamond (838 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-29-09 02:17 AM Response to Reply #2 |
7. If rulings like this one are getting overruled then that goes on the "poor record" of the |
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alp227 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-29-09 04:50 PM Response to Reply #2 |
33. Although the "Nutty Ninth" has a high reversal rate, other courts have fared worse |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-29-09 02:06 AM Response to Original message |
6. "Though stun guns may offer a valuable, nonlethal alternative to deadly force..." |
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safeinOhio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-29-09 07:19 AM Response to Reply #6 |
10. What ever happened to mace and pepper spray? |
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pattmarty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-29-09 08:15 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. They weren't "non-lethal" enough. I just love these euphanisms........ |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-29-09 02:05 PM Response to Reply #6 |
32. They are LESS lethal, NOT nonlethal. nt |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-29-09 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
13. a good first step and about time too!! |
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burrfoot (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-29-09 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
15. You all must be pretty strong |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-29-09 11:05 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. I Haven't seen one person on this thread state anything near what you imply |
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burrfoot (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-29-09 11:34 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Fair enough, |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-29-09 11:46 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. cool... I KNOW there are good cops out there |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-30-09 01:30 AM Response to Reply #21 |
54. yeah i'm with the anti bad cops |
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crikkett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-29-09 11:35 AM Response to Reply #15 |
20. Troll? |
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burrfoot (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-29-09 12:25 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Hang on... |
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crikkett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-29-09 05:55 PM Response to Reply #24 |
35. K. |
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burrfoot (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-29-09 08:58 PM Response to Reply #35 |
52. Congratulations, I hope you bagged |
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Flaneur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-29-09 12:55 PM Response to Reply #15 |
25. There's a difference between a bad cop and a bad plumber. |
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burrfoot (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-29-09 01:51 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. I completely support people being |
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rantormusing (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-29-09 12:58 PM Response to Reply #15 |
26. The be thankful talking point, |
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burrfoot (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-29-09 01:49 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. rantormusing- |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-30-09 01:28 AM Response to Reply #15 |
53. I won't paint police with the same brush |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-29-09 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
17. Stun gun + lazy cop = recipe for disaster. |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-29-09 11:10 AM Response to Original message |
18. This is very good news - and long overdue. |
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Realityhack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-29-09 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
22. I am curious as to how this relates to the language for deadly force. |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-29-09 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
27. Good. Time for the pigs to be stripped of their portable torture devices. n/t |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-29-09 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
31. You mean they can't use them on upset 6-year-olds in school, |
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lumpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-29-09 04:53 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Thanks for posting- these are vivid examples of why |
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