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Viva_La_Revolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 11:38 AM Original message |
AOL, Arianna Huffington Hit with Class Action Suit |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
1. Defense attorney says: |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 11:48 AM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Not so fast MM. Have a look at these two cases. |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 11:57 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. I'm a professional journalist, and have been since 1974. |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 12:04 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. I do, in fact, feel discomfort with the dumbing down of lots of professions via the underpaid. |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 12:50 PM Response to Reply #12 |
20. I don't know if they signed away copyright. It doesn't matter, |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 12:49 PM Response to Reply #9 |
19. The entire business model has collapsed and you blame writers? |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 12:54 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. The demand for written content has never been larger. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 01:00 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. No, it's not the willingness of writers to be unpaid that tanked |
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SpiralHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 02:08 PM Response to Reply #26 |
42. Hello? Did you read MM's responses? Apparently not. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 02:32 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. I sure did and that narrative puts the cart before the horse. |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 02:35 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Unskilled yokels? Really? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 02:44 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. You might try rereading my post with some of those years worth of experience. |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 02:48 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. No thanks. I saw my error. I just haven't edited it yet. |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 03:15 PM Response to Reply #42 |
53. So you got paid to write this that I'm responding to? |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:48 AM Response to Reply #53 |
80. YOU are the reason the New York Times can't hire writers!!! |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 10:06 AM Response to Reply #80 |
82. ?! nt. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 10:41 AM Response to Reply #82 |
85. My joke's a failure I guess. (I was agreeing with you.) |
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ronnie624 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 12:57 PM Response to Reply #85 |
92. It wasn't a failure. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 01:09 PM Response to Reply #92 |
93. Amusing?! You call that a "joke"? I wasn't even paid to write it! |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 03:48 PM Response to Reply #85 |
99. sorry |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 07:42 AM Response to Reply #23 |
77. I agree, MM, and I refuse to write for free unless it's an occasional op-ed |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 11:43 AM Response to Reply #77 |
90. You're writing for free right now. Or did you get paid for the post? |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 06:40 PM Response to Reply #19 |
65. Thank-you from a photographer now quasi replaced by free photos online.... |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:53 AM Response to Reply #65 |
81. I made most of my money translating, now largely replaced by these un-idiomatic Google translations. |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 11:12 AM Response to Reply #81 |
88. agreed. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 01:08 PM Response to Reply #9 |
28. Can I get a "hell yeah" from the audience? |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 01:59 PM Response to Reply #28 |
40. It is hard for writers to get respect, because a lot of the consumers |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 02:33 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. It's always been hard for writers to get respect. That's not new. n/t |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 02:37 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. So it has. Just as I said. |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 09:46 PM Response to Reply #47 |
70. So, let me get this straight. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 03:38 PM Response to Reply #70 |
98. Do you demand respect for replacement workers during a strike? |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 06:33 PM Response to Reply #98 |
101. No one hired the folks and asked them to post at HuffPo. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 02:00 AM Response to Reply #101 |
102. Media outlets weren't "looking" to be bought out, they just WERE bought out. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 05:47 PM Response to Reply #40 |
100. This may be your experience with your "consumers," but it hasn't been mine with my readers. |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 01:09 PM Response to Reply #9 |
29. Wow. |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 01:56 PM Response to Reply #29 |
39. Actually, no, I wouldn't take exception to that. In fact, I'm the |
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katty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 11:53 AM Response to Reply #1 |
8. if you choose to write on a voluntary basis/understanding and |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 11:58 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Yup! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 12:54 PM Response to Reply #8 |
21. Not if the site owner represented to you |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 07:46 AM Response to Reply #21 |
78. this writer had 6 yrs. to stop writing for HuffPo and NOW says the org profited |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 12:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
16. Yeah, I'm gonna sue Facebook for profiting from all my witty comments |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 12:55 PM Response to Reply #16 |
24. Good luck with all that. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 01:10 PM Response to Reply #1 |
31. The case takes place in a court, not in your imagination. Tasini knows what he's doing. |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 10:55 PM Response to Reply #31 |
72. I don't believe your facts are accurate. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 12:24 AM Response to Reply #72 |
73. The vast majority of content on HuffPo was never paid for. |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 12:58 AM Response to Reply #73 |
75. The content is not what is of value |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:42 AM Response to Reply #75 |
79. Fine, you're arguing for the defendant and think you've "totally destroyed" the plaintiff. |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 10:16 AM Response to Reply #79 |
83. Where the hell do you get the conclusions found in your reply? |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 10:37 AM Response to Reply #83 |
84. I've been civil to you and it's sad that you resort to characterizations by remote viewing. |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 12:34 PM Response to Reply #84 |
91. The "totally destroys" comment I made was not about the plaintiffs' case |
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some guy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 02:57 PM Response to Reply #1 |
50. ha ha ha ha |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 12:43 AM Response to Reply #50 |
74. Nice burn. |
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
2. I'm still waiting for Skinner to pay me for all my witty commentary here |
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SpiralHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 11:47 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. It will be included in the check for your beer money & travel expenses |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 01:44 PM Response to Reply #4 |
35. Godamn it, don't bring him on this thread....n/t |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 05:24 PM Response to Reply #4 |
64. Hahaha. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 11:48 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. We're all still waiting for the "witty commentary".... |
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Wait Wut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 11:53 AM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Class Action Suit!!! |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 01:12 PM Response to Reply #2 |
32. Did Skinner sell Democratic Underground for $300 million? |
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 01:46 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. yes, but I hear 97% of that money came from the DoD, (via Obama) |
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MilesColtrane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 02:36 PM Response to Reply #2 |
46. DUzy Awards aren't bringing what they used to on Ebay. |
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SpiralHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
3. Folks likely wanked off now that Huffington is out of the closet as a full-on RepubliCorp catapult |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 11:59 AM Response to Reply #3 |
11. She was always a Republican. Always. I knew her in |
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SpiralHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 12:15 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Going occult is a Republicon speciality. Huffington is just now being exposed |
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AsahinaKimi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 12:32 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. Whats that old saying ? |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 03:16 PM Response to Reply #11 |
54. Deceived? Wasn't she a vocal McCain supporter? nt. |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
14. I wonder if anyone will notice. |
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SoapBox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
15. Hahahahahaha! |
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Tarheel_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
18. .... |
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BillyJack (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 01:02 PM Response to Reply #18 |
27. You've got that write! ;-) N/T |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 01:49 PM Response to Reply #18 |
37. Barnum. Pure Barnum. n/t |
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JJW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
22. I repeatedly called it the Palin Post |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
25. It's the shareholders who should be suing AOL over this deal. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 01:09 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. The HuffHo is like every other institution in this culture any more. |
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fredamae (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 09:16 PM Response to Reply #30 |
68. Thats why I left HPO last year. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 01:12 PM Response to Reply #25 |
33. Now ain't that the truth. Thanks for a laugh. |
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Corruption Winz (581 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
34. If you don't want to work for free, don't work for free. n/t |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 03:18 PM Response to Reply #34 |
55. +1: couldn't have said it better myself. nt. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 04:12 PM Response to Reply #34 |
58. If you don't want to be noticed exploiting free patsies, don't sell their work for $300 million. |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
38. Arianna can claim there was nothing worth paying for, |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 02:01 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Based on much that was posted here from that site, |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 04:07 PM Response to Reply #41 |
57. One wonders when some posters here figure that out about FDL. |
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Tarheel_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 04:34 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. You mean that rag run by Hampster & Grover Norquist? |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 04:39 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Yes--the breathlessly quoted, poorly sourced revenue maker for |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 06:40 PM Response to Reply #57 |
66. I have no idea. Some already have, though, I'm sure. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 04:18 PM Response to Reply #38 |
59. not any more, actually. not by the rules of the market. |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 04:40 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. Oh, please--they still have woo by the shitload. n/t |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 10:24 PM Response to Reply #63 |
71. How is that relevant to the price AOL paid? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 02:59 PM Response to Original message |
51. good, |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 01:13 PM Response to Reply #51 |
94. Best comment here and very wise of you not to get into the muck... |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
52. Since she started the Post I would not rave about it or even go to it. I felt out of it compared |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
56. Deleted message |
Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
61. Arianna is nothing but a corpoRAT hypocrite. |
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Keith Bee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
67. Given HuffPo's bloggers..... |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 09:45 PM Response to Original message |
69. For what it's worth, I can never wean myself from DU, but I was gone from HuffPost 100% in two days |
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Kat45 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 01:16 AM Response to Original message |
76. Jonathan Tasini used to head the National Writers Union |
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Akoto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
86. I'm no lawyer, but I don't see how they have a case. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
87. Prediction: Huffington will settle, come up with a set of rules for sharing revenue with writers. |
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Lone_Star_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 11:15 AM Response to Original message |
89. Very humorous. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 01:30 PM Response to Reply #89 |
96. Surely the funniest part is $315 million dollars... from AOL, specialists in folly. |
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Lone_Star_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 02:36 PM Response to Reply #96 |
97. "AOL, specialist in folly. I like that! |
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Trikatnieks (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
95. It's even worse than everyone thinks - she's a "slave driver" apparently |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 09:56 AM Response to Original message |
103. They don't have a case |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 11:08 AM Response to Reply #103 |
104. Insofar as there were no contracts, they may well have a case. |
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