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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 10:03 AM Original message |
"Homeland Security means Unionizing Wal-Mart" |
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mstrsplinter326 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
1. Unionizing is socialist |
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JHB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 10:10 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. They call us commies anyway n/t |
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mstrsplinter326 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 10:12 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. true story... |
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dorktv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 12:47 PM Response to Reply #1 |
37. so do I and I favor Unionization...I tell the republicans: You have |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 01:19 PM Response to Reply #1 |
50. Privatizing is fascism |
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fdr_hst_fan (853 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 10:11 AM Response to Original message |
3. Not only Wal-Mart; |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 10:17 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. If you flip the coin |
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JHB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 11:28 AM Response to Reply #6 |
22. They already have them |
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yodermon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 01:07 PM Response to Reply #22 |
41. From Adam Smith, Wealth of Nations: |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 01:25 PM Response to Reply #22 |
54. My point exactly |
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Baltimoreboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 10:15 AM Response to Original message |
5. Just curious |
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DBoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 10:19 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Works for Costco |
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Baltimoreboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 10:29 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. But those increases will come from somewhere |
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lapislzi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 10:42 AM Response to Reply #11 |
16. It doesn't have to be that way |
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Baltimoreboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 10:44 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. It WILL be that way |
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lapislzi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 10:56 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. That's a false equation |
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Baltimoreboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 12:26 PM Response to Reply #20 |
30. Until something changes it isn't false |
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lapislzi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 01:14 PM Response to Reply #30 |
44. Fine then. I would pay more for the peace of mind of knowing |
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Baltimoreboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 01:29 PM Response to Reply #44 |
57. That is you, clearly you can afford it |
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lapislzi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 01:36 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. You left one out. Revolutions can turn on a dime |
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yankeedem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 05:45 PM Response to Reply #57 |
105. The question is, can you afford Walmart? |
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Baltimoreboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 05:50 PM Response to Reply #105 |
106. I can't stand Walmart |
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StandUpGuy (392 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 03:45 PM Response to Reply #30 |
71. Obscene is what US ceo's make compared to their workers |
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Toots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 07:03 PM Response to Reply #30 |
119. Then government steps in and makes some adjustments |
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SemperEadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 01:57 PM Response to Reply #17 |
60. apples and oranges |
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Baltimoreboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 02:05 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. What a BS rationalization |
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SemperEadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 02:13 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. it's still apples and oranges |
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Baltimoreboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 02:15 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. Not hysterical |
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lapislzi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 02:49 PM Response to Reply #64 |
67. You can't escape the fact that Wal-Mart functions solely |
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Baltimoreboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 03:17 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. CEOs have unique skills |
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lapislzi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 03:35 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. I think that argument is rubbish, pure and simple |
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Baltimoreboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 03:59 PM Response to Reply #70 |
76. Doctors would be higher paid |
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lapislzi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 04:06 PM Response to Reply #76 |
82. There's two questions there |
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StandUpGuy (392 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 03:53 PM Response to Reply #68 |
73. You mean skills like |
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Baltimoreboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 04:00 PM Response to Reply #73 |
78. Getting away with sticking it to the working class |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 04:03 PM Response to Reply #68 |
80. How do you explain executive salaries in Europe? |
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Baltimoreboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 04:06 PM Response to Reply #80 |
83. Why do you say they are more skilled? |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 04:11 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. Outrageous CEO Pay Still a Sore Point |
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Baltimoreboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 04:16 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. The issue is hard to quantify |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 04:22 PM Response to Reply #86 |
89. Please find me a paper that shows correlation between performance |
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Baltimoreboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 04:25 PM Response to Reply #89 |
92. Didn't I just say it's hard to quantify |
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yankeedem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 05:55 PM Response to Reply #68 |
110. CEO's get what the market will bear |
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Baltimoreboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 05:59 PM Response to Reply #110 |
111. Everyone earns what the market will bear |
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yankeedem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 06:02 PM Response to Reply #111 |
112. I don't grasp why you complain |
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Baltimoreboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 06:06 PM Response to Reply #112 |
113. I'm not giving anyone a pass |
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lapislzi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 06:28 PM Response to Reply #113 |
118. Do WHAT? |
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Baltimoreboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 07:55 PM Response to Reply #118 |
120. Thankfully most CEOs are not Ken Lay |
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StandUpGuy (392 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 03:49 PM Response to Reply #61 |
72. Bullshit |
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Baltimoreboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 03:54 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. Family connections help |
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lapislzi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 03:59 PM Response to Reply #74 |
77. oh, and bush had no help from family |
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Baltimoreboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 04:01 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. No it's not irrelevant |
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fob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 04:47 PM Response to Reply #79 |
100. Athletes are union employees and enjoy those benefits. |
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Baltimoreboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 04:53 PM Response to Reply #100 |
101. I don't work for the stadium |
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lapislzi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 06:15 PM Response to Reply #79 |
115. Because he is not making it off the backs of the working poor |
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StandUpGuy (392 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 04:21 PM Response to Reply #74 |
88. I love it when Apologists site |
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Baltimoreboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 04:31 PM Response to Reply #88 |
93. Everyone wants a piece of the pie |
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StandUpGuy (392 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 04:41 PM Response to Reply #93 |
98. With answers like that I need not continue |
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Baltimoreboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 04:42 PM Response to Reply #98 |
99. So you support ridiculous pay inequality? |
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StandUpGuy (392 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 04:56 PM Response to Reply #99 |
102. CEOs employ millions to make themselves rich. |
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yankeedem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 05:51 PM Response to Reply #61 |
107. How many baseball players are as good as Barry Bonds? |
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Baltimoreboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 05:55 PM Response to Reply #107 |
109. Many ballplayers make millions |
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yankeedem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 06:11 PM Response to Reply #109 |
114. Are you in the top 750 in your profession? |
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Baltimoreboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 08:05 PM Response to Reply #114 |
122. The top 750 |
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Philostopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 10:45 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Maybe they could zero in on executive compensation. |
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lapislzi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 01:18 PM Response to Reply #18 |
49. DING! We have a winner |
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JHB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 11:37 AM Response to Reply #11 |
23. At US minimum wage, the labor cost of a T-Shirt is about 25 cents... |
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Baltimoreboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 12:27 PM Response to Reply #23 |
31. Maybe it is, but that won't be how they handle this |
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JHB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 01:17 PM Response to Reply #31 |
48. Which brings up an important point about progressive taxation... |
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SemperEadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 02:11 PM Response to Reply #31 |
62. so, we're to avoid change because we're afraid of this? |
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Lefty48197 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 04:24 PM Response to Reply #11 |
90. That's not necessarily true |
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wicket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 11:56 AM Response to Reply #8 |
28. Costco is here on the East Coast too |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 10:24 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. why are the shoppers better than the workers? |
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Baltimoreboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 10:30 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Not better, not worse either |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 10:38 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. some niche |
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Baltimoreboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 10:41 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Class action |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 10:51 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. how low are Wal-Mart's prices? |
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apsuman (134 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 11:52 AM Response to Reply #19 |
25. low. |
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mrboba1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 01:11 PM Response to Reply #19 |
43. Wal-Marts prices are not lower |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 01:20 PM Response to Reply #43 |
51. "always the lowest price" |
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apsuman (134 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 11:15 PM Response to Reply #51 |
134. fyi |
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fob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 12:17 PM Response to Reply #15 |
29. Let's see, unabashed, facts be damned wal-mart supporter... |
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Baltimoreboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 12:29 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. I'm no Walmart supporter at all |
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fob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 01:01 PM Response to Reply #32 |
40. You are not making a "truthful point". You are making an assertion |
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Baltimoreboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 01:34 PM Response to Reply #40 |
58. Truthful points |
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fob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 02:34 PM Response to Reply #58 |
65. Here is the full paragraph, I used brackets and some info disappeared |
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Baltimoreboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 03:26 PM Response to Reply #65 |
69. Continuing with the math |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 03:57 PM Response to Reply #69 |
75. If wages exactly matched inflation then it would not be an issue |
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Baltimoreboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 04:03 PM Response to Reply #75 |
81. Everybody unionized? |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 04:08 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. Yes |
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Baltimoreboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 04:18 PM Response to Reply #84 |
87. Absolute anything scares me |
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StandUpGuy (392 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 04:25 PM Response to Reply #87 |
91. Absolute socialism = no incentive ??????? |
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StandUpGuy (392 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 05:09 PM Response to Reply #91 |
103. Absolute socialism = no incentive ??????? |
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Baltimoreboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 05:41 PM Response to Reply #103 |
104. Much like absolute capitalism |
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StandUpGuy (392 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 06:23 PM Response to Reply #104 |
117. Nice try tricky dick |
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Baltimoreboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 08:02 PM Response to Reply #117 |
121. True capitalism |
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StandUpGuy (392 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 09:55 PM Response to Reply #121 |
123. OK you lose I'm not playing anymore |
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Baltimoreboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 09:58 PM Response to Reply #123 |
124. Wow, I don't like unbridled capitalism |
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StandUpGuy (392 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 10:21 PM Response to Reply #124 |
125. No what I caught you doing is... |
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Baltimoreboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 10:37 PM Response to Reply #125 |
126. Feel free to describe absolute socialism |
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StandUpGuy (392 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 10:44 PM Response to Reply #126 |
127. I don't need to or want to ....but |
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Baltimoreboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 10:48 PM Response to Reply #127 |
128. Well we've already proven your second definition incorrect |
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StandUpGuy (392 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 10:57 PM Response to Reply #128 |
129. No what we proved... |
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Baltimoreboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 11:01 PM Response to Reply #129 |
130. Lacking any true examples of either absolute |
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StandUpGuy (392 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 11:05 PM Response to Reply #130 |
131. OK this time I'm really outta here for a while |
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Baltimoreboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 11:12 PM Response to Reply #131 |
132. Sorry, spur of the moment |
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StandUpGuy (392 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 11:14 PM Response to Reply #132 |
133. Or a sound bite factory. |
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Baltimoreboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 11:19 PM Response to Reply #133 |
135. That sounds like it would pay well |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 04:33 PM Response to Reply #87 |
95. Firefighters and Policemen belong to unions |
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Baltimoreboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 04:34 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. Perioidically they also strike |
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fob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 04:32 PM Response to Reply #69 |
94. "we are mixing fantasy and reality". WE? Speak for yourself. |
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Baltimoreboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 04:39 PM Response to Reply #94 |
97. $20,000 a week IS $1 million a year |
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fob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 05:51 PM Response to Reply #97 |
108. What about the other numbers? |
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yankeedem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 06:22 PM Response to Reply #94 |
116. Not to mention the tax burden |
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lapislzi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 01:22 PM Response to Reply #32 |
52. You may be correct, but that sure doesn't make it OK |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 10:26 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. The economy is demand driven not supply driven |
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Baltimoreboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 10:31 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. And customers demand low prices |
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lapislzi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 10:59 AM Response to Reply #13 |
21. Price is not all things to all people |
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Baltimoreboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 12:30 PM Response to Reply #21 |
33. For some people it is the top reason |
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lapislzi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 01:10 PM Response to Reply #33 |
42. You're constructing a spiral argument |
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RetroLounge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 11:55 AM Response to Reply #13 |
27. "salaries can't be cut, staff will be" |
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Baltimoreboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 12:31 PM Response to Reply #27 |
34. What is stupid about stating how the company will handle it? |
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lapislzi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 01:17 PM Response to Reply #34 |
46. Saying it isn't stupid, but doing it would be |
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Krupskaya (689 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 11:37 AM Response to Reply #5 |
24. take some time |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 11:55 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. very well put |
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dorktv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 12:49 PM Response to Reply #5 |
38. Most of the time the increases in pay amount to pennies. |
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sbj405 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 02:42 PM Response to Reply #5 |
66. Interesting analogy I heard on AAR |
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Mad As Hell (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 10:18 AM Response to Original message |
7. Agree. |
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dorktv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
35. In one of my surveys I have to fill out as a candidate I was |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
36. Half the Shit Wal Mart does is illegal anyways... |
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Aries (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
39. The government tilts the playing field against unions. |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 01:17 PM Response to Reply #39 |
47. if a corporation is a person |
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Aries (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 01:22 PM Response to Reply #47 |
53. "The Corporation" |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 01:26 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. yeah, that's it! |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
45. If Walmart was unionized |
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senseandsensibility (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
56. I agree |
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