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father_twilight (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 12:58 AM Original message |
doesn't conservatism = anarchy ? |
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VTMechEngr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 01:26 AM Response to Original message |
1. Actually |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 01:27 AM Response to Original message |
2. Close. Bush version = monarchy. |
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FDRrocks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 01:28 AM Response to Original message |
3. Anarchism = Libertarian Socialism |
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father_twilight (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 01:31 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. we reach that stage in history |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 01:32 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. What is the mechanism for maintaining anarchy? |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 01:34 AM Response to Reply #3 |
7. communism is a touch different |
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father_twilight (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 01:40 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. ha... ha ha |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 01:52 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Well, not impossible, but yah, very improbable. |
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Pachamama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 02:59 AM Response to Reply #9 |
39. Many Tribes in the world lived in a peaceful society without a government |
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Tommythegun (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 01:59 AM Response to Reply #7 |
14. Not quite... |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 02:06 AM Response to Reply #14 |
20. Right, |
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Tommythegun (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 02:14 AM Response to Reply #20 |
25. I don't agree... |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 02:22 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Yes but the revolution to him was a natural part of the evolution |
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Tommythegun (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 02:30 AM Response to Reply #28 |
33. Revolution... |
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VTMechEngr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 01:39 AM Response to Reply #3 |
8. I wish more people understood Marx's thesis. |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 01:47 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. BS! |
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VTMechEngr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 02:01 AM Response to Reply #10 |
16. Competition has always been a human trait |
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Tommythegun (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 02:09 AM Response to Reply #16 |
23. Thing with Marx... |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 02:15 AM Response to Reply #16 |
26. We definately dont know that it is a human trait. Please dont say that. |
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Tommythegun (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 02:24 AM Response to Reply #26 |
30. Marx sought a change in the roots of society... |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 02:25 AM Response to Reply #16 |
31. Capitalism is inherently wasteful |
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Tommythegun (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 02:35 AM Response to Reply #31 |
34. A few things... |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 02:42 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. The environment suffered because it was not a priortiy for the USSR |
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Tommythegun (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 02:48 AM Response to Reply #36 |
37. I'm not saying that they became clean 'by the miracle of the market'... |
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Tommythegun (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 02:51 AM Response to Reply #37 |
38. My broader point... |
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VTMechEngr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 02:08 AM Response to Reply #10 |
21. You must have missed the phrase "on society" |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 02:23 AM Response to Reply #21 |
29. I dont think that part of it was too idealistic. |
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tomorrowsashes (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 02:11 AM Response to Reply #3 |
24. Marx isn't the best model for the anarchist |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 01:33 AM Response to Original message |
6. This is complicated. |
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Tommythegun (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 02:18 AM Response to Reply #6 |
27. Anarchy would be a step up... |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 01:53 AM Response to Original message |
12. No on social issues, yes on the economy in extreme W form nt |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 01:55 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. and not even on the economy |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 02:00 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. true, but I couldn't fit "generally" in the subject line, :-) nt |
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Tommythegun (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 02:02 AM Response to Reply #13 |
18. True enough... |
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Tommythegun (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 02:05 AM Response to Reply #13 |
19. I've got one for you... |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 02:26 AM Response to Reply #19 |
32. Yah, the free trade thing is a smokescrean |
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Tommythegun (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 02:37 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Grandees will never actually promote smaller government... |
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Charlie Brown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 02:01 AM Response to Original message |
17. From what I've seen conservatism=fascism |
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HarveyBriggs (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 02:08 AM Response to Original message |
22. Good oberservation. Great way to start an earnest conversation. |
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Disturbed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 05:33 AM Response to Reply #22 |
40. Amerika today, |
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