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AnOhioan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 02:13 PM Original message |
Concealed weapon carrier accidentally shoots his barber |
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n2doc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
1. Too bad the bullet hit the wrong ass n/t |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
2. This will "never" happen... |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 02:21 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Actually, facts don't support your claim. |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 02:29 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. A few hundred a year is too many when that number can be zero. |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 02:54 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. The gun owner faces criminal and civil liabilities... |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 05:50 PM Response to Reply #5 |
31. The number can't be zero. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 02:30 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. One only has to go through the posts on the gungeon forum... |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 02:51 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. I have a lot of concern for the rights of others ... |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 02:58 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. Speculation upon speculation... |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 05:34 PM Response to Reply #14 |
27. how many examples would you like? |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-11 01:58 AM Response to Reply #27 |
52. But if it is such a SMALL amount and if the gun control movement |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-06-11 01:11 AM Response to Reply #27 |
75. Those rude toters! Where *ever* did they get the idea to do such things? |
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Hoopla Phil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 05:49 PM Response to Reply #6 |
30. Then you should have no problem citing that "never happen" claim you made. |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 10:02 PM Response to Reply #6 |
42. 1-2% of most states have CCW.. |
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Atypical Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-11 08:23 AM Response to Reply #6 |
57. That's the perils of having a business open to the public, I guess. nt |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 05:23 PM Response to Reply #4 |
25. actually, you don't know that |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 05:54 PM Response to Reply #25 |
32. Argument from ignorance. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 06:13 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. accusation from malice |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-11 02:04 AM Response to Reply #36 |
53. Splitting hairs again |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-11 08:24 AM Response to Reply #53 |
58. avoiding the issue again |
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russ1943 (405 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-11 12:22 AM Response to Reply #4 |
44. Thousands unintentionally shot in US annually. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-11 08:28 AM Response to Reply #44 |
59. and once again |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 02:52 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. Do you have sources or cites for "This will 'never' happen....?" |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-11 12:41 AM Response to Reply #2 |
45. I doubt anyone's said "never"; they have said "highly unlikely" |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-11 01:53 AM Response to Reply #2 |
50. Blood flowing in the streets I tell ya... |
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safeinOhio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-11 06:23 AM Response to Reply #50 |
55. can you cite one posting where someone on DU |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-11 03:50 PM Response to Reply #55 |
66. I probably could but it's not worth my time to look it up. |
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safeinOhio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-11 04:33 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. Yah right. |
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RC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
3. The barber should have been armed. |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 02:54 PM Response to Reply #3 |
12. In Tampa, my barber had a concealed weapons permit and did carry ... |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 03:57 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. Have you EVER seen a 'not polite' barbershop? Seriously. nt |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 04:32 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Yes. At one barbershop I was at a drunk staggered in and started to raise hell ... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 05:47 PM Response to Reply #20 |
29. Deleted message |
spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 07:44 PM Response to Reply #29 |
38. Who said that? |
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oneshooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 09:09 PM Response to Reply #29 |
41. There ya go, telling less than the truth again, Bless your heart. n/t |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 06:00 PM Response to Reply #20 |
34. and this has to do wtih carrying firearms in barbershops ... how? |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 07:54 PM Response to Reply #34 |
39. It has nothing to do with carrying firearms in a barbershop ... |
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ileus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
7. Modern firearms should not discharge from being dropped. |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 03:05 PM Response to Reply #7 |
17. He might have been carrying something like an NAA mini-revolver ... |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 03:58 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Hear a loud noise. Or shoot somebody in the ass. nt |
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Hoyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-11 03:58 AM Response to Reply #17 |
54. That thing is clearly an "accident waiting to happen." |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-06-11 11:55 AM Response to Reply #54 |
79. Not if you follow instructions ... |
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CanonRay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
8. Bet it was a Glock |
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ileus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 02:56 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. You don't believe in the "safe action" |
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OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 06:18 PM Response to Reply #13 |
37. meh... glocks are single action. I don't know how Glock gets away calling them DA or "safe action" |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 02:59 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. Safety starts with proper training. I prefer a Ruger revolver -- action bar. nt |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 06:05 PM Response to Reply #15 |
35. You meant to say: safety of person X starts with proper training of person Y |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-11 01:08 AM Response to Reply #35 |
47. "How does going to get one's hair cut imply assuming the risks |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-11 02:01 PM Response to Reply #35 |
61. There is no entity that can be "relied" upon, or provide a "guarantee." |
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GKirk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-11 03:46 PM Response to Reply #35 |
65. You didn't complete your sentence... |
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Glassunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 03:05 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. Why does everybody pick on the Glock all the time? |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 05:03 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. Yiou either love Glocks or you hate them ... |
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Glassunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 05:45 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. For me |
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oneshooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-11 07:49 AM Response to Reply #28 |
56. I am just the oppisite. The Glocks do not feel right in my hand |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-11 05:09 PM Response to Reply #56 |
71. I didn't like the Glock fit either, so I went for Springfield XDm. n/t |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-11 01:08 AM Response to Reply #22 |
48. Oh, I don't know... |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 05:57 PM Response to Reply #16 |
33. Maybe, but I for one don't trust a firearm without an external safety. |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 07:58 PM Response to Reply #33 |
40. I prefer modern S&W revolvers without a safety for self defense ... |
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Abin Sur (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 10:11 PM Response to Reply #33 |
43. I'm reminded of a story about the designer of the Radom ViS 35 pistol, |
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Atypical Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-11 08:31 AM Response to Reply #33 |
60. Me too. Manual safeties detect intent, not just presence. |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-11 03:24 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. I like the grip safety on 1911 style pistols ... |
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Atypical Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-11 05:02 PM Response to Reply #64 |
69. I do, too, but.... |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-11 05:07 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. True. (n/t) |
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Logical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-11 10:29 PM Response to Reply #16 |
72. And sometimes if handled properly! |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 04:46 PM Response to Reply #8 |
21. How so? How do you make a Glock discharge without a finger on the trigger? n/t |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 05:05 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Buy a cheap holster. See post #22 (n/t) |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 05:14 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Oh heck, I'd forgotten about that, I believe you posted it a while ago. |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 05:30 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Soemone else must have made that post ... |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-11 12:59 AM Response to Reply #8 |
46. Doubtful; Glocks are unforgiving of error, but they are assuredly "drop safe" |
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AzNick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-06-11 12:35 AM Response to Reply #8 |
74. A well maintained Glock would not do that. A mini revolver would |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-11 01:50 AM Response to Original message |
49. And your point for this news story? |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-11 01:55 AM Response to Reply #49 |
51. I think it's an attempt at plausible deniability |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-11 03:55 PM Response to Reply #51 |
67. I guess that's the same as find any one person on DU that has said that |
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Glassunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-11 02:45 PM Response to Original message |
62. Why is this such a big deal? |
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Kennah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-06-11 12:07 AM Response to Reply #62 |
73. I haven't, but I did gut punch mine the last time I came in for a trim. |
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SecularMotion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-11 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
63. He needs gun carry insurance |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-06-11 03:25 AM Response to Reply #63 |
76. No insurance company will pay for negligence on the part of the policyholder n/t |
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SecularMotion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-06-11 05:13 AM Response to Reply #76 |
77. If the insurance company determines the accident was a result of negligence |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-06-11 11:26 AM Response to Reply #77 |
78. So the insurance policy would be pointless in that case. |
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