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spooked911
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Fri Jul-02-10 04:16 PM Original message |
Another Aeronautics Expert Confirms That the Excessive Speed of UA175 is Problematic |
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hack89
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Fri Jul-02-10 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
1. Don't you feel any obligation to actually verify this statement |
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spooked911
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Fri Jul-02-10 07:12 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. feel free to question Dwain Deets |
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hack89
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Fri Jul-02-10 08:33 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Why do you believe it is true? nt |
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spooked911
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Sat Jul-03-10 08:11 AM Response to Reply #9 |
18. I believe the massively excessive speed is indeed problematic |
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hack89
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Sat Jul-03-10 04:41 PM Response to Reply #18 |
31. But don't you actually have to prove that the speed was excessive? |
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defendandprotect
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Fri Jul-09-10 04:07 PM Response to Reply #31 |
65. Not "excessive" . . . it was impossible . .. |
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SDuderstadt
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Fri Jul-09-10 04:32 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. Name one....n/t |
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William Seger
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Sun Jul-04-10 08:34 AM Response to Reply #18 |
34. "it is absurd to think an inexperienced pilot maneuvered a 767 so expertly at that speed" |
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spooked911
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Sat Jul-10-10 01:08 PM Response to Reply #34 |
70. Well, the Pentagon jet was supposed to be a 757, so I was referring to "UA175" |
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William Seger
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Mon Jul-05-10 01:53 AM Response to Reply #18 |
37. Sorry, didn't notice you were talking about UA175 |
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SDuderstadt
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Mon Jul-05-10 01:55 AM Response to Reply #37 |
38. "because it's hard to find test pilots who will keep accelerating until the plane falls apart" |
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zappaman
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Fri Jul-02-10 06:42 PM Response to Original message |
2. damn Spooked |
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spooked911
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Fri Jul-02-10 08:13 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. are you doubting a NASA scientist? |
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zappaman
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Fri Jul-02-10 08:28 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. yes I am doubting Dwain Deets. |
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spooked911
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Sat Jul-03-10 08:09 AM Response to Reply #8 |
17. Actually, John Lear was not the first |
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zappaman
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Sat Jul-03-10 01:47 PM Response to Reply #17 |
30. "the moon nonsense" |
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William Seger
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Mon Jul-05-10 10:04 AM Response to Reply #17 |
40. No, Joseph Keith is a software engineer |
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terrafirma
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Fri Jul-02-10 08:53 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. So what you're saying is... |
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backwoodsbob
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Sat Jul-03-10 09:44 AM Response to Reply #7 |
21. from zappa's link |
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spooked911
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Sat Jul-03-10 12:21 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. 914 kph = ~567 mph = ~493 knots per hour |
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zappaman
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Sat Jul-03-10 01:45 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. Spooked, are you a pilot? |
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LARED
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Fri Jul-02-10 06:54 PM Response to Original message |
3. I don't know if the information is correct, but there is an important thing |
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spooked911
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Sat Jul-03-10 08:01 AM Response to Reply #3 |
15. No, it is not a "completely unremarkable fact" |
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LARED
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Sat Jul-03-10 08:05 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Care to address my point? |
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spooked911
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Sat Jul-03-10 08:15 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. the operating speed has to do with controlling the plane |
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LARED
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Sat Jul-03-10 08:28 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Well actually the fact that both |
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spooked911
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Sat Jul-03-10 12:25 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. flying that speed at sea level is problematic |
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LARED
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Sat Jul-03-10 01:42 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. How is 900' + @ sea level? nt |
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zappaman
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Sat Jul-03-10 09:23 PM Response to Reply #24 |
32. Spooked, are you a pilot? |
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AZCat
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Sat Jul-03-10 11:21 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. And what effect does speed have on control of the aircraft? |
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spooked911
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Sat Jul-03-10 12:26 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. It should be clear |
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AZCat
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Sat Jul-03-10 12:29 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Hmmm. So you don't know? |
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AZCat
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Sat Jul-10-10 01:20 PM Response to Reply #26 |
72. Still waiting for spooked to explain... |
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spooked911
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Sat Jul-31-10 07:47 AM Response to Reply #72 |
106. the higher the speed, the more sensitive the controls become |
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SDuderstadt
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Sat Jul-31-10 08:57 AM Response to Reply #106 |
108. I'm not sure that's of much importance to... |
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LARED
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Sat Jul-31-10 09:06 AM Response to Reply #106 |
109. Ever hear of "fly-by-wire"? |
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spooked911
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Sat Jul-31-10 02:12 PM Response to Reply #109 |
115. so what? |
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LARED
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Sat Jul-31-10 09:44 PM Response to Reply #115 |
119. Two things |
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spooked911
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Sun Aug-01-10 07:55 AM Response to Reply #119 |
121. so... |
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LARED
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Sun Aug-01-10 12:49 PM Response to Reply #121 |
124. Good Lord man, but you inhabit an entirely different universe? |
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spooked911
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Mon Aug-02-10 07:11 AM Response to Reply #124 |
125. The whole point of the OP was that the high-speed course changes were remarkable |
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LARED
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Mon Aug-02-10 07:22 PM Response to Reply #125 |
130. Well two out of a few hundred thousand is clearly an air tight case. |
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SDuderstadt
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Mon Aug-02-10 07:40 PM Response to Reply #130 |
131. Especially replying to Spooked... |
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zappaman
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Mon Aug-02-10 08:30 PM Response to Reply #131 |
132. true |
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spooked911
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Tue Aug-03-10 11:05 AM Response to Reply #131 |
134. believe me, whatever you have written that is worthwhile has sunk in-- |
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SDuderstadt
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Tue Aug-03-10 11:21 AM Response to Reply #131 |
138. Simple question, dude.... |
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spooked911
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Tue Aug-03-10 06:20 PM Response to Reply #138 |
143. because I am more stubborn than most... |
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LARED
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Tue Aug-03-10 08:18 PM Response to Reply #143 |
146. Understandable |
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SDuderstadt
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Tue Aug-03-10 09:08 PM Response to Reply #143 |
147. Stubborn and wrong is.... |
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spooked911
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Wed Aug-04-10 11:45 AM Response to Reply #147 |
148. I doubt they changed their minds-- |
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SDuderstadt
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Wed Aug-04-10 11:50 AM Response to Reply #148 |
150. How is it "unreasonable"... |
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zappaman
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Wed Aug-04-10 12:01 PM Response to Reply #150 |
151. it IS unreasonable |
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spooked911
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Wed Aug-04-10 06:58 PM Response to Reply #148 |
153. because of your stubborn opposition to govt/high level complicity |
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zappaman
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Wed Aug-04-10 07:59 PM Response to Reply #153 |
155. and your stubborn refusal to admit |
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SDuderstadt
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Wed Aug-04-10 08:39 PM Response to Reply #153 |
156. Enough of your bullshit, dude... |
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spooked911
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Tue Aug-03-10 10:59 AM Response to Reply #130 |
133. please show me where a few hundred thousand pilots have expressly supported the OCT |
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SDuderstadt
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Tue Aug-03-10 11:19 AM Response to Reply #133 |
137. Dude... |
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LARED
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Tue Aug-03-10 05:50 PM Response to Reply #133 |
139. No one claimed that. - nt |
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spooked911
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Tue Aug-03-10 06:18 PM Response to Reply #139 |
142. what did you claim then? |
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zappaman
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Sat Jul-31-10 09:20 AM Response to Reply #106 |
110. oh, so you are a pilot? |
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LARED
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Sat Jul-31-10 09:22 AM Response to Reply #110 |
111. I'm pretty sure Spooked got all his flying experiance |
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zappaman
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Sat Jul-31-10 12:00 PM Response to Reply #111 |
112. my dad was a commercial airline pilot |
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spooked911
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Sat Jul-31-10 02:08 PM Response to Reply #112 |
113. dude-- |
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zappaman
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Sat Jul-31-10 03:57 PM Response to Reply #113 |
116. well |
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spooked911
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Sun Aug-01-10 08:00 AM Response to Reply #116 |
122. I'm not sure what your point is about me knowing the speed |
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zappaman
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Sun Aug-01-10 10:55 AM Response to Reply #122 |
123. training as in flight school |
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spooked911
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Mon Aug-02-10 07:28 AM Response to Reply #123 |
126. "approximations and estimations" |
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zappaman
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Mon Aug-02-10 12:34 PM Response to Reply #126 |
127. "I think everything on 9/11 should be 100% explainable." |
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spooked911
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Tue Aug-03-10 11:07 AM Response to Reply #127 |
135. Actually, 9/11 is perfectly explainable as a massive hoax and inside job. |
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SDuderstadt
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Tue Aug-03-10 11:17 AM Response to Reply #135 |
136. Why don't you provide this... |
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LARED
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Tue Aug-03-10 06:00 PM Response to Reply #135 |
140. Thank goodness you guys have finally put together |
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zappaman
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Tue Aug-03-10 06:09 PM Response to Reply #135 |
141. too funny |
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spooked911
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Tue Aug-03-10 06:22 PM Response to Reply #141 |
144. it's only funny |
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AZCat
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Tue Aug-03-10 08:13 PM Response to Reply #144 |
145. What is an act? |
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spooked911
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Sat Jul-31-10 02:09 PM Response to Reply #110 |
114. I said earlier |
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SDuderstadt
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Sat Jul-31-10 04:15 PM Response to Reply #114 |
117. Dude... |
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zappaman
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Sat Jul-31-10 05:42 PM Response to Reply #117 |
118. "think this through" |
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SDuderstadt
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Sat Jul-31-10 10:48 PM Response to Reply #118 |
120. You DO... |
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spooked911
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Wed Aug-04-10 11:49 AM Response to Reply #117 |
149. That's pure bull... |
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LARED
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Wed Aug-04-10 05:44 PM Response to Reply #149 |
152. "extra programming to overcome"?????? |
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SDuderstadt
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Wed Aug-04-10 08:41 PM Response to Reply #149 |
157. Jesus.... |
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KDLarsen
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Fri Jul-02-10 07:36 PM Response to Original message |
5. Hardly an "Aeronautics Expert" |
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spooked911
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Sat Jul-03-10 07:57 AM Response to Reply #5 |
14. his bio would indicate that he knows something about aeronautics, is the point |
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Make7
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Fri Jul-02-10 07:36 PM Response to Original message |
6. VD for a 767-200 is 420 knots, not 410 knots as stated. ( n/t ) |
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spooked911
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Sat Jul-03-10 07:56 AM Response to Reply #6 |
13. source? |
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Make7
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Sun Jul-04-10 09:34 AM Response to Reply #13 |
35. The FAA type certificate data sheet. ( n/t ) |
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deconstruct911
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Fri Jul-02-10 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
11. it's amazing |
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spooked911
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Sat Jul-03-10 07:44 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. also |
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deconstruct911
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Sat Jul-03-10 12:36 PM Response to Reply #12 |
27. yea but wouldnt someone have footage |
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spooked911
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Sun Jul-04-10 08:19 AM Response to Reply #27 |
33. if they did, it was doctored after the fact |
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zappaman
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Sun Jul-04-10 10:27 AM Response to Reply #33 |
36. are you a pilot, Spooked? |
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spooked911
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Mon Jul-05-10 09:19 AM Response to Reply #36 |
39. that is quite irrelevant |
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zappaman
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Mon Jul-05-10 11:45 AM Response to Reply #39 |
41. no its not |
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spooked911
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Mon Jul-05-10 08:35 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. it doesn't matter |
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SDuderstadt
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Mon Jul-05-10 08:50 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. No one believes you... |
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zappaman
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Tue Jul-06-10 03:26 AM Response to Reply #42 |
44. I take that as a "no" then |
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spooked911
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Wed Jul-07-10 09:01 PM Response to Original message |
45. Worth listening to this pilot, Ross "Rusty" Aimar |
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SDuderstadt
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Wed Jul-07-10 09:04 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. I'd hardly call someone with a commercial pilot's license... |
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spooked911
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Thu Jul-08-10 06:34 AM Response to Reply #46 |
48. who are you referring to? |
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SDuderstadt
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Thu Jul-08-10 11:25 AM Response to Reply #48 |
49. With training and certification... |
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spooked911
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Thu Jul-08-10 08:08 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. there's no way Hani Hanjour legitimately earned a commercial license |
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AZCat
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Thu Jul-08-10 08:15 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. But he did indeed possess... |
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spooked911
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Fri Jul-09-10 07:41 AM Response to Reply #53 |
57. he could have still been an amateur if the license was gotten illegitimately |
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AZCat
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Sat Jul-10-10 01:24 PM Response to Reply #57 |
73. That's not what your link indicates at all. |
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spooked911
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Sun Jul-11-10 06:38 AM Response to Reply #73 |
78. I read the piece |
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SDuderstadt
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Thu Jul-08-10 08:39 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. Make me, dude... |
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spooked911
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Fri Jul-09-10 07:42 AM Response to Reply #54 |
58. "make me" |
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zappaman
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Thu Jul-08-10 09:16 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. Spooked, are you a pilot? |
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spooked911
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Fri Jul-09-10 07:44 AM Response to Reply #55 |
59. what "proof"? |
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zappaman
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Fri Jul-09-10 02:51 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. my dad was a pilot for over 30 years |
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spooked911
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Fri Jul-09-10 09:01 PM Response to Reply #60 |
67. maybe-- |
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SDuderstadt
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Sat Jul-10-10 01:34 AM Response to Reply #67 |
68. Are you a commercial pilot, dude? |
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spooked911
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Sat Jul-10-10 12:55 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. I already said I wasn't a pilot, so not sure why you're asking me if I am a "commercial pilot" |
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SDuderstadt
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Sat Jul-10-10 01:13 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. It's silly because you're trying to rationalize your goofy... |
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spooked911
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Sat Jul-10-10 09:31 PM Response to Reply #71 |
75. Dude, I am presenting evidence. |
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zappaman
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Sun Jul-11-10 12:37 AM Response to Reply #75 |
76. "Dude, I am presenting evidence." |
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spooked911
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Sun Jul-11-10 06:37 AM Response to Reply #76 |
77. that's not what the post was about-- I was presenting experts' opinions |
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spooked911
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Sun Jul-11-10 06:39 AM Response to Reply #60 |
79. again-- |
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zappaman
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Wed Jul-07-10 11:13 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Spooked, are you a pilot? |
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KDLarsen
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Thu Jul-08-10 02:40 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. If they are so impossible.. |
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spooked911
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Thu Jul-08-10 08:05 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. you should read this, at least |
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KDLarsen
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Thu Jul-08-10 11:46 PM Response to Reply #51 |
56. Interesting read |
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William Seger
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Sun Jul-11-10 12:59 PM Response to Reply #51 |
85. Why should anyone waste time reading that? |
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spooked911
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Wed Aug-04-10 07:02 PM Response to Reply #85 |
154. I understand your "Texas Sharpshooter Fallacy" |
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jberryhill
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Fri Jul-09-10 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
61. Another data point for you, spooked |
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Make7
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Fri Jul-09-10 03:15 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. Well, it may not be impossible, but ... |
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LARED
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Fri Jul-09-10 04:03 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. But likely a commercial elevator operator would do just fine nt |
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deconstruct911
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Sat Jul-10-10 06:47 PM Response to Reply #61 |
74. Maybe they could of had 13 |
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spooked911
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Sun Jul-11-10 06:43 AM Response to Reply #61 |
80. very funny |
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ablewon
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Sun Jul-11-10 07:44 AM Response to Reply #80 |
81. Irrevelant point |
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SDuderstadt
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Sun Jul-11-10 10:48 AM Response to Reply #81 |
82. More handwaving... |
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ablewon
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Sun Jul-11-10 11:29 AM Response to Reply #82 |
83. dude, do you know what "credible evidence" means? |
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SDuderstadt
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Sun Jul-11-10 11:43 AM Response to Reply #83 |
84. Do you? |
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ablewon
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Sun Jul-11-10 02:18 PM Response to Reply #84 |
86. Here you go, dude |
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zappaman
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Sun Jul-11-10 02:37 PM Response to Reply #86 |
87. what? |
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ablewon
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Sun Jul-11-10 05:52 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. A Brief Course in 9/11 Miracles |
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SDuderstadt
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Sun Jul-11-10 06:06 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. Aha! |
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ablewon
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Sun Jul-11-10 06:45 PM Response to Reply #89 |
91. Was Nist wrong? Miracle remains intact unless Nist recants. |
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SDuderstadt
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Sun Jul-11-10 06:49 PM Response to Reply #91 |
92. Dude... |
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ablewon
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Sun Jul-11-10 06:52 PM Response to Reply #92 |
94. Dude |
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SDuderstadt
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Sun Jul-11-10 08:34 PM Response to Reply #94 |
99. You're like a broken record... |
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William Seger
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Sun Jul-11-10 09:31 PM Response to Reply #91 |
101. Griffin the fraud: A case in point |
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William Seger
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Sun Jul-11-10 06:18 PM Response to Reply #88 |
90. Cult of the Griffin |
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ablewon
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Sun Jul-11-10 06:51 PM Response to Reply #90 |
93. Speaking of hucksters, frauds , and liars... |
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Sun Jul-11-10 08:46 PM Response to Reply #93 |
100. Fantasy is your world |
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Sun Jul-11-10 08:07 PM Response to Reply #87 |
95. Now, do you still believe in the 9/11 miracles , as required... |
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Sun Jul-11-10 08:18 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. Dude... |
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Sun Jul-11-10 08:25 PM Response to Reply #96 |
97. NIST debunked your miracle! |
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Sun Jul-11-10 08:32 PM Response to Reply #97 |
98. NIST did no such thing, dude... |
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Fri Jul-09-10 04:06 PM Response to Original message |
64. Magic planes on 9/11 . . .!!! |
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Tue Jul-20-10 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
102. Conversation with Dwain Deets retired NASA exec. |
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Tue Jul-20-10 04:03 PM Response to Reply #102 |
103. thanks |
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Tue Jul-20-10 04:09 PM Response to Original message |
104. Deets has a site about WTC7 |
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Tue Jul-20-10 05:30 PM Response to Reply #104 |
105. Let see.. |
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Sat Jul-31-10 08:10 AM Response to Reply #105 |
107. Umm, dude |
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129. The WTC7 steel piece didn't show temps high enough for thermite. |
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128. Dwain Deets is also the "writing team lead" for AE911Truth. n/t |
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