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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 07:18 PM
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more money for war = prolonged occupation
bush has requested an additional $81.9 billion dollars to continue his never-end misadventures in the Middle East ... once again, the Congress has been presented with a bogus justification for the funds ...

last time, of course, it was WMD, i mean, er, it was 9/11, i mean, er, it was Saddam collaborating with terrorists ... oh, now i remember, we were liberating the Iraqis ...

and now, of course, we need more funds to "support the troops" ... bush has asked Congress for a bloated $400 billion dollar defense budget and it does not include the additional $81.9 billion for Iraq ... why would anyone take this request seriously? at a minimum, bush should be required to pull money from the much those unnecessary multi-gazillion (i looked it up) dollar weapons systems ... no way should he be allowed to pad the defense budget and then get an additional allocation to continue the insanity in Iraq ...

the support the troops argument is totally bogus ... he was given money to support the troops ... he was given a massive defense appropriation and an additional $150 billion or more for Iraq ... and all Rumsfeld can say to justify the neo-con abuse of our troops is: "you fight with the army you have, not the army you want" ... bush and rumsfeld left those troops with inadequate equipment ... and they'll do it again ... they have plenty of money for protective gear and armored tanks ... instead, they are busy building starwars systems to pad the profits of their corporate friends ... voting for another appropriation is voting for prolonged occupation and will achieve nothing but many more dead and wounded Americans and countless dead Iraqis ... voting for the $81.9 billion is voting for death !!
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chlamor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 08:47 PM
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1. =no health care=looting of treasury=militarized america=no school lunches
spot on. watch as all senators and most reps of all stripes cave in. and they know where the money goes.
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 09:47 PM
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4. "support the troops"
Edited on Fri Feb-18-05 09:48 PM by welshTerrier2
another excuse to give bush his "allowance" for war ...

this appropriation is even worse than the IWR ... at least that time, there was at least a pretense of trying diplomacy first (via the U.N.) and there was at least a pretense of the resolution being used only to empower bush to negotiate (this means threaten) Saddam ...

the pretense is gone now ... this is nothing but an approval to do more of the same ... and, of course, this will be nowhere near the last of these outside-the-budget requests ... it will just keep going and going and going ...

right now "we have to support the troops" ... in 6 months, those same troops will be sent into Syria or Iran because they have "nukes that could create a mushroom cloud in 45 minutes" or "they tried to get yellowcake from Africa" or "they bought some aluminum tubes" or "just one little vial of this stuff could wipe out millions" ...

the money is prolonging the occupation ... the occupation is destabilizing Iraq ... and the whole world hates the U.S. ...

NO MORE MONEY FOR WAR !!!!!!!!!!!!
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 08:49 PM
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2. Yeah, its time to starve the 'real' beast
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ckramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 08:54 PM
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3. How could Kerry vote for that 81 billion?
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chlamor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 10:35 PM
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5. & prolonged occupation=more war=prolonged occupation=....
And that is the game of the Warfare State. As for the 'support the troops' slogan it is as Chomsky states effective propaganda precisely because it means nothing and cannot be questioned. How about support a peoples right to dignity here and abroad. Not possible in an authoritarian militarized state. These endless wars provide the "necessity" for the feedback loop known as "military spending". I'm sure this isn't news to you. Thanks for the post.
The interests behind the Bush Administration, such as the Council on Foreign Relations, The Trilateral Commission - founded by Brzezinski for David Rockefeller - and the Bilderberger Group, have prepared for and are now moving to implement open world dictatorship within the next five years. They are not fighting against terrorists. They are fighting against citizens."

Dr. Johannes B. Koeppl, Ph.D., former German defense ministry official and advisor to former NATO Secretary General Manfred Werner (2001)

"The technotronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values. Soon it will be possible to assert almost continuous surveillance over every citizen and maintain up-to-date complete files containing even the most personal information about the citizen. These files will be subject to instantaneous retrieval by the authorities."

Zbigniew Brzezinski.

And then there is the Iraqi girl,hands soaked in her dead father's blood, whose little brother does not yet understand that his childhood has just come to an end. Fearing for their lives, US soldiers killed the parents in the front seat of the family car. Demons will likely haunt their nights. Stuff happens. Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz, bless their souls, will sleep well tonight. 

Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.

Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

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