Election 2000 All Over. New Polls, Kerry 48 Bush 45. Looses w/ Nader

[WiseMen]

New Newsweek Poll: Kerry 48% vs Bush 45%.

With Edwards added to the ticket: Kerry/Edwards 49% vs Bush/Cheney 45%

Interestingly, Newsweek article is totally focused on Edwards but numbers still don’t look good for Edwards compared with Kerry.

(Just heard on Fox that Fox Poll as Kerry just beating Bush but loosing if Nader enters the race – Nader takes 4%. Nader still pulling strong because of anti-IWR and impact of Dean campaign pundits suggest)

For the fourth week running in the NEWSWEEK poll, Kerry has a slight edge over Bush in a hypothetical election—the Massachusetts senator leads the president by 3 points (48 percent to 45 percent) in a survey with a 3 percent margin of error.

. . . .
Indeed, Edwards polled better than ever against Bush this week: If the election were held today, the two would be in a dead heat, tied at 46 percent (the Southerner started the year trailing the president by 16 points).

…….
While not as likely to be a registered Democrat’s first choice, Edwards maintains a positive image—the freshman senator is regarded favorably by 70 percent of registered Democrats and 52 percent by all voters. Kerry is viewed favorably by 85 percent of registered Democrats and 56 percent of all voters. (Still, just 19 percent of voters view Edwards unfavorably whereas Kerry, at 27 percent, comes across as more polarizing). With “electability” a buzz word this election season, a Kerry-Edwards ticket tests well among voters. Although the Southern senator demurs whenever his name is floated as a vice-presidential candidate, 49 percent of voters would support a Kerry-Edwards ticket compared to the 45 percent who back a Bush-Cheney reelection bid.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4333712/

[West Coast Democrat]

1. Nader won't get anywhere near 4%---he didn't in 2000

Fox is dreaming.

[Walt Starr]

4. Nader didn't have the Iraq War as a cause to rally around in '00

It will be disaffected anti-war folks who throw the election to Bush in '04.

[West Coast Democrat]

10. There are plenty of Nader 2000 people living on my block

Believe me, they are NOT voting for him this year.

[Walt Starr]

11. Yeah, but a whole slew of others who voted for Gore in 2000 might.

And it will all be because of the IWR.

Man, it's like 1968 all over again!

[West Coast Democrat]

12. It's not 1968 all over again...but you do sound like a bitter Dean

supporter.

Iraq will be an issue, but not THE issue.

[Walt Starr]

15. Iraq will be THE issue

for anybody voting for Nader.

And, as I've already stated countless times on these forums, come Novemeber 2nd, I will cast my vote for The Ham Sandwich (D).

[West Coast Democrat]

17. The same tiny percentage will consider voting Nader again

Jobs will be the big issue for swing voters:

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040221/ap_on_el_pr/jobs_poll

[The Magistrate]

28. Let Me Get This Straight, Mr. Starr

You expect persons who oppose the invasion of Iraq will vote to return the author of the invasion of Iraq to office?

Does that not sound just a wee bit over-involved, to say the least?

How will returning the author of the war to office register as a protest against the war?

It seems to me vanishingly un-likely any statistically signifigant numbner of people would be so damnably foolish as that, my friend.

"Kill one, warn one hundred."

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

[blondeatlast]

18. And a great many first time voters. Idealism minus pragmatism

can be a good thing. But it won't be in this election.

It's a one-way ticket to the Evil Empire, sad to say.

[Must Win 2004]

2. I received an email from

Progressive Majority today asking that we email Nader to explain why he should announce that he is NOT running tomorrow.

Here is the address if anyone wishes to contact him:

[e-mail]

And here is my email:

Dear Mr. Nader

The final straw for me with Clinton was the Welfare Reform Act. I voted for you in 1996 and in 2000.

We were both wrong.

There is a difference between democratic and republican white houses.

Please be more politically involved after the election. You seem to retreat after the election and deal with pet projects. If you really care about the future of the country, you will not run in 2004. You needn't compromise your principles by endorsing the democrat. Just announce tomorrow that you've decided you don't wish to run. No apologies. No explanations. No endorsements.

Then, please REMAIN in the POLITICAL discourse over the next 4 years...and that includes getting us all together for 3rd or 4th parties. However, 2004 is too soon. We aren't prepared. Please recall how differently things might be if Gore had won in 2000. Not different enough, to be sure; but we were wrong. Bush has made a difference.

Thank you for taking the time to read this.

Respectfully submitted,

******

[pscot]

7. I wrote to him weeks ago

I don't think he's listening.

[rpf113]

35. I wrote.

Just a short simple e-mail begging him not to enter the race.
Everybody please follow my example!

[NewYorkerfromMass]

3. There it is

people never learn.

[Walt Starr]

5. Looks to me like Kerry wasn't the most electable

:shrug:

[Cuban_Liberal]

8. You notice that too, huh?

:hi:

[West Coast Democrat]

14. Look, Dean would have been creamed on the tax cut issue

like it or not. And I don't support the bush* tax cuts, but there it is.

The anti-war movement is more of a Democratic party issue, rather than a general election issue.

[Walt Starr]

21. I don't believe that

Look, Kerry is about to be creamed because a slight percentage of progressive voters will now go to Nader.

It proves to me, the "electability" argument was a pile of steaming bullshit.

[CityDem]

6. Nader has a place in this race

It is his right to run. It is our obligation to see that a progressive candidate wins in 2004.

[displacedtexan]

9. A Nader run makes it easier for BushCo to cheat!

Nader on the ballot can easily explain the "close" election, a la 2000.

[adadem]

33. True

easier for them to siphon off the Dem votes to Nader via their Diebold machines than just losing them .

[RafterMan]

13. As Ye Sow...

Did the pro-war Dems really not see this coming?

[Minstrel Boy]

23. Perhaps it's now the pro-war Dems who need to

"stop crying in their tea cups" and "get over it."

[Tinoire]

25. Too busy being unrepentant & ignoring the issue n/t

[tedoll78]

29. Agree.

Last time I checked, we can't un-invade Iraq. Electing an anti-that-war president won't magically enable some time travel device with which we can go back and stop the war. It's done. We now have to look to the future (what a concept!) and make the best of the current situation.

I'm of the most anti-war people you could ever know, but I'm not going to live the rest of my political life in 2002 & 2003.

[RafterMan]

31. No, we can't un-invade

But can we at least say it was a bad idea?

Unlike WMD, there are mountains of evidence supporting this hypothesis.

[Minstrel Boy]

32. If Kerry can't say that Iraq was a bad idea,

how can the world trust his judgement on the next one? Because whether it's Kerry or Bush, an American president will be sending troops across somebody's borders in the next four years. It's what they do.

[Walt Starr]

24. But,...but,...but...

Kerry is so ELECTABLE!!! If only Nader doesn't do what everybody knew Nader would do!

[janx]

30. That's what I find mind boggling. I have posted repeatedly,

saying the same thing.

[PDittie]

16. So I say we encourage Judge Moore to run

because Ralph isn't going to be discouraged.

[spooky3]

22. I agree!

[corporatewhore]

19. this is why kerry should care about the left

[tedoll78]

26. Given his lifetime voting record..

and given that his strongest support has come more from liberals than moderates, I'd say it's a good bet that he already does.

[nodictators]

20. Polls DON'T reflect the effects of rigging

The regime doesn't intend to lose, the voters be damned.

What states do you think will be rigged? I think there will be a BIG shockeroo "victory" for the regime in a state that most Dems think is a safe bet for Kerry (or even Edwards)!

As for Ralphboy, he just becomes more dispicable with age. I think he should call his party the Soylent Green Party (as in the movie of the same title). It was all about "recycling", you know.

[mdmc]

27. Kucinich veep?

Set those numbers straight?

[Forkboy]

34. Damn that pesky democracy!

Curses!