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PassingThrough (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:05 PM Original message |
UAE will be running shipping, NOT security. Security will not change |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:06 PM Response to Original message |
1. Nothing but a talking point. Literally. |
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PassingThrough (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:14 PM Response to Reply #1 |
13. It is an actual fact. Plain and simple. |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:16 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. It's nonsense. You are a victim of Republican talking points. |
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PassingThrough (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:18 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. It doesnt. The British did not run security and the UAE will not either. |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:21 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. This is like saying that you don't run security in your own home. |
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PassingThrough (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:24 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. UAE is going to run cargo/shipping. That is it. Security is by another |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:27 PM Original message |
You don't understand what you're saying. |
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PassingThrough (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:29 PM Response to Original message |
43. So, Longshoremen are responsible for security??? The simple fact |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:33 PM Response to Reply #43 |
53. Now you're just making things up. |
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PassingThrough (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:36 PM Response to Reply #53 |
65. Point out one thing that is untrue. Bet you can not. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:40 PM Response to Reply #65 |
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PassingThrough (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:41 PM Response to Reply #71 |
75. How did I do that??? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:49 PM Response to Reply #75 |
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PassingThrough (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:54 PM Response to Reply #89 |
100. Give an actual example. If you are going to call me a liar prove it. |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:57 PM Response to Reply #100 |
103. Read your post #43. |
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PassingThrough (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 07:02 PM Response to Reply #103 |
110. Er, I never stated you said anything. You make no sense at all. |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 07:07 PM Response to Reply #110 |
114. You said that I deny, "that UAE will not be any more responsible |
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converted_democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:34 PM Response to Reply #43 |
56. The company is a state run company.. The same state that funneled and |
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converted_democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:22 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. But they will be loading and loading.. One of the most vulnerable areas |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:25 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. no, the local Longshoremen will be unloading/loading |
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converted_democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:31 PM Response to Reply #31 |
44. Well, than Lou Dobbs has his facts messed up, because he just said |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:33 PM Response to Reply #44 |
54. Lou Dobbs has his facts messed up |
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converted_democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:35 PM Response to Reply #54 |
61. This is a state run company.. The same "state" that laundered and |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:45 PM Response to Reply #61 |
82. ok, that is not correct |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:47 PM Response to Reply #82 |
86. Not a police state (unless you're gay). |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:50 PM Response to Reply #86 |
91. you know, coming from a country that still fails to recognize Cuba |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:52 PM Response to Reply #91 |
95. The fuck I can't complain about it. |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 07:01 PM Response to Reply #95 |
109. Look, that is a side issue, frankly |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 07:08 PM Response to Reply #109 |
115. Yes - it addressed my question by establishing that you |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 07:14 PM Response to Reply #115 |
121. well, that's your gross exagerration award of the day |
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converted_democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:50 PM Response to Reply #82 |
90. I'm sorry, I'm not buying it.. I don't think this is a good idea, and |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:53 PM Response to Reply #90 |
97. fair enough, but anytime I see you, or anyone else |
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converted_democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:57 PM Response to Reply #97 |
105. Everyone is wrong except you, a hand full of others, and the |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 07:04 PM Response to Reply #105 |
112. ok, ignore the facts, then |
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converted_democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 07:13 PM Response to Reply #112 |
118. Again, sell it to someone who will buy it... This is a state owned company |
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Telly Savalas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:50 PM Original message |
Lou Dobbs is a fucking idiot. |
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converted_democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:54 PM Response to Original message |
99. And? You think this is a good idea? I don't.. He's dedicated the |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
113. well |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 07:10 PM Response to Original message |
116. He'll have to take consolation in being right. n/t |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:37 PM Response to Reply #19 |
67. and ? |
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tjdee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:07 PM Response to Original message |
2. Cool, but the company is still owned by the UAE. |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:07 PM Response to Original message |
3. UAE will be making the Security PLANs and submitting them to the |
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Lost-in-FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
4. Like having an untrained dog guarding the steaks |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
5. And security is shit, AFAIC one alarm is as good as another to |
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shance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
6. Is that what they're "saying"? Their words mean nothing. |
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PassingThrough (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:16 PM Response to Reply #6 |
18. No its a fact. The British didnt run security either. |
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KingFlorez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
7. And this makes the deal okay? |
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PassingThrough (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:16 PM Response to Reply #7 |
16. I am not defending anything. DUers keep arguing incorrectly that |
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KingFlorez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:19 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. Whatever |
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Twist_U_Up (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:21 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. Who does the hiring and firing ??? |
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PassingThrough (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:24 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. UAE will of course. |
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Twist_U_Up (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:27 PM Response to Reply #29 |
38. There ya go. |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:26 PM Response to Reply #23 |
34. since it's all unionized |
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FormerRepublican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
8. UAE will be handling manifests, which means they know what goes... |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
9. read this thread |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:26 PM Original message |
Tell ya what I think... |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
59. the magic word you are looking for is "arab" I'm afraid. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:36 PM Response to Reply #59 |
66. No, not "Arab" - it's "complicit in terrorist acts" to say nothing |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:39 PM Response to Reply #59 |
69. Of course! This morning the Port Manager at Newark... |
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journalist3072 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
10. That's just as bad.... |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
11. UAE will run shipping and security will remain.. |
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PassingThrough (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:15 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. The UAE or one of many foreign companies that control the ports worldwide. |
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CatWoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:25 PM Response to Reply #15 |
32. Sean Hannity? Is that you? |
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PassingThrough (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:27 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. Is what I am saying not true???????? Name calling because you do not |
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CatWoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:29 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. Is Sean Hannity a four letter word now? |
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Telly Savalas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:56 PM Response to Reply #32 |
101. Sean Hannity is a stupid fuck who like other Republicans |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:29 PM Response to Reply #11 |
42. the United States Coast Guard |
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jim3775 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
12. They could easily obstruct or bypass the security if they... |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:31 PM Response to Reply #12 |
47. they don't own the ports. |
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Telly Savalas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:59 PM Response to Reply #47 |
108. But the Arabs will convert the union workers to Islam |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 07:13 PM Response to Reply #108 |
117. Racism is assuming that a handful of dictators represent a race of people. |
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tularetom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
14. Security currently sucks. |
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Tin Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
21. UAE will compile database: manifests, points of origin, ect & INSPECTIONS |
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PassingThrough (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:22 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Who do you think ships into US ports??? Foreign companies control |
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Twist_U_Up (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
26. off topic question |
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PassingThrough (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:25 PM Response to Reply #26 |
33. Lol, took you a while to show up. :P |
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Twist_U_Up (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:26 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. nice deflection |
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PassingThrough (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:28 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. You resort to personal attacks. It is clear what you are implying. |
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Twist_U_Up (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:32 PM Response to Reply #40 |
49. You also accused the same of DU. |
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PassingThrough (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:33 PM Response to Reply #49 |
55. Lol, you are to obvious. I am not here for personal attacks or flaming. |
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Twist_U_Up (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:35 PM Response to Reply #55 |
60. thought so |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:24 PM Response to Original message |
28. But they are still goddamn A-RABS! |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:39 PM Response to Reply #28 |
70. I dunno - my Arab American spouse thinks it's a bad and |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:24 PM Response to Original message |
30. And Who Here DIDN'T Know This? |
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PassingThrough (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:32 PM Response to Reply #30 |
51. Read the replies and you will see several that still deny this is true. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:34 PM Response to Reply #51 |
58. You misunderstand. UAE would not be directly responsible for |
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PassingThrough (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:38 PM Response to Reply #58 |
68. But foreign companies control the ports the cargo is going to and coming |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:40 PM Response to Reply #68 |
74. All foreign nations are not the same. Or would you trust |
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PassingThrough (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:45 PM Response to Reply #74 |
83. Major companies are run by China, Singapore (sp?), Denmark and UAE... |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:48 PM Response to Reply #83 |
87. I feel like I need Garret Morris to interpret so you'll get this. |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:43 PM Response to Reply #68 |
79. Then Think About It More Carefully |
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PassingThrough (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:48 PM Response to Reply #79 |
88. I do not think the sale is a good idea like I have stated. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:54 PM Response to Reply #88 |
98. But your premise was false. Even without taking over security |
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PassingThrough (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:56 PM Response to Reply #98 |
102. Aspects maybe but they would not be running actual security. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:58 PM Response to Reply #102 |
106. Like I told you - no one thinks they would be running security - |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:36 PM Response to Reply #51 |
64. I've Been Here Daily For Over 5 Years |
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PassingThrough (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:40 PM Response to Reply #64 |
73. If you chk recent threads and the replies here you will plainly see |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:41 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. No - they are not confused, by and large. They consider any |
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PassingThrough (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:43 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. But they are misstating the sale. UAE will not be taking over security. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:45 PM Response to Reply #78 |
81. Let me try this again: We almost all know the UAE will not be |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:44 PM Response to Reply #76 |
80. Thanks Joe |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:46 PM Response to Reply #73 |
84. Show Me One Of Those Confused Posters |
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Libby2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:26 PM Response to Original message |
36. It's worth nothing. |
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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
39. They are going to know EVERYTHING about port security in each of those |
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eShirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:31 PM Response to Original message |
45. remember the story of the Trojan Horse? |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:31 PM Response to Original message |
46. and.. The child molester will be "babysitting"your child..not adopting |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:31 PM Response to Original message |
48. UAE will have the manifests and shipping data ... |
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PassingThrough (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:34 PM Response to Reply #48 |
57. Where do you think cargo is shipped? Who do you think controls those? |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:35 PM Response to Reply #57 |
62. Personnel from the UAE, of course ... that's exactly my point ! |
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PassingThrough (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 07:04 PM Response to Reply #62 |
111. But dont they already know alot of it? Goods come and go to the ports |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 07:13 PM Response to Reply #111 |
119. Kindly take off your blinders - they have ALL the essential details |
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NightOwwl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
50. Congratulations! |
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Twist_U_Up (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:40 PM Response to Reply #50 |
72. head up ass |
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PassingThrough (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:42 PM Response to Reply #50 |
77. Wow, a personal attack! Way to add to the discussion! |
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Mazie Gordon (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
52. One of the problems with this deal |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:46 PM Response to Reply #52 |
85. That is beside the point ... |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
63. The Coast Guard |
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Twist_U_Up (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:50 PM Response to Original message |
92. Alright who recommended this? lol funny funny nt |
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PassingThrough (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:57 PM Response to Reply #92 |
104. You my first stalker! I feel honored! |
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stanwyck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:50 PM Response to Original message |
93. All the manifests will be available |
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PassingThrough (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:58 PM Response to Reply #93 |
107. Doesnt the receiving port also get that information? |
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Jacobin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:50 PM Response to Original message |
94. Having a long term lease |
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CabalPowered (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 06:53 PM Response to Original message |
96. Managing the manifests is step one in port security |
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johnaries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
120. WRONG! The US will still be doing inspections, BUT DP will |
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pinto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 07:15 PM Response to Original message |
122. Locking. Please see this: |
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