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madinmaryland
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:27 PM Original message |
WOO-HOO!! Smoking ban in Maryland bars and restaurants goes into |
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SteppingRazor
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:28 PM Response to Original message |
1. Bah. Body nazis. |
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LynneSin
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:47 PM Response to Reply #1 |
20. Yes god forbid we tramp on the rights of the smoking nazis |
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benEzra
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Wed Jan-30-08 05:40 PM Response to Reply #20 |
146. Strict clean-air standards for nonsmoking sections would serve just as well... |
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Swede
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Wed Jan-30-08 10:52 PM Response to Reply #146 |
167. Smoking sections in a building is like peeing sections in a pool. |
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benEzra
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Thu Jan-31-08 09:05 AM Response to Reply #167 |
172. Yes, it does...and air quality standards would be enforceable. |
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Caoimhe
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Thu Jan-31-08 06:11 PM Response to Reply #172 |
174. No...,really.... it doesn't work. n/t |
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benEzra
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Thu Jan-31-08 09:09 PM Response to Reply #174 |
175. Yes, it does, if properly designed. |
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JVS
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Thu Jan-31-08 12:28 AM Response to Reply #20 |
169. This is all so that people will drive to Delaware and pay their tolls to smoke in their bars, right? |
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JDPriestly
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Wed Jan-30-08 05:45 PM Response to Reply #1 |
150. Some of those "body Nazis" have asthma, and second-hand |
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LanternWaste
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
2. This smoker... |
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Viva_La_Revolution
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:33 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. this smoker would like everyone else to quit driving and spewing invisible carcinogens into my air. |
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DesertFlower
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:42 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. when i was a smoker i had |
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Viva_La_Revolution
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:00 PM Response to Reply #15 |
42. and now it's ok that smog causes as many illnesses as long-term exposure to second hand smoke? |
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LanternWaste
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:36 PM Response to Reply #42 |
98. We selectively and conveniently choose |
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TahitiNut
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:01 PM Response to Reply #15 |
44. There's nothing like having a track record. |
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LanternWaste
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:30 PM Original message |
When your cigarette can also drive you to and from work... |
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Mountainman
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Wed Jan-30-08 04:12 PM Response to Reply #7 |
125. Well I have to hand it to you. Your bull shit is up front! |
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harmonicon
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Wed Jan-30-08 04:52 PM Response to Reply #7 |
141. +1 |
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DesertFlower
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:43 PM Response to Reply #2 |
16. good for you. |
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LanternWaste
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Wed Jan-30-08 04:26 PM Response to Reply #16 |
137. I've learned the hard way... |
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DesertFlower
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Wed Jan-30-08 06:32 PM Response to Reply #137 |
160. good luck to you. i smoked for 30 years --- 2 packs a day. |
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meegbear
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
3. Reason #29 not to visit Maryland |
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Sweet Pea
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:39 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. Only 29? |
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TZ
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:55 PM Response to Reply #3 |
32. There's been this ban in Montgomery Co, Maryland for several years |
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kirby
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:59 PM Response to Reply #32 |
40. And business increased! |
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LynneSin
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:02 PM Response to Reply #40 |
46. These bans happen and intially there is always backlash |
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Midlodemocrat
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
4. It's effect, asshat. |
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madinmaryland
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:52 PM Response to Reply #4 |
26. Nice post, Hitler! |
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High Plains
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
5. I guess I'll be spending my money in Virginia. |
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kirby
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
6. About damn time... |
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High Plains
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:34 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. How many people die from second hand smoke, anyway? |
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kirby
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:38 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. There are studies... |
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Deep13
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:49 PM Response to Reply #8 |
22. More than you think and this isn't just about 2nd hand smoke. |
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LynneSin
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:50 PM Response to Reply #8 |
24. Don't get me started with second hand smoke - I dealt with it for years |
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DadOf2LittleAngels
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:53 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. And |
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kirby
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:56 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. Yeah but the voters wanted this!! |
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LynneSin
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:59 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. They call us non-smokers 'Nazis' but the real 'Nazis' are the smokers |
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DadOf2LittleAngels
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:13 PM Response to Reply #39 |
59. Tell ya what |
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Midlodemocrat
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:16 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. How about when I have to walk through a cloud of smoke to |
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DadOf2LittleAngels
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:19 PM Response to Reply #62 |
72. If the resturant allows somking and you hate it that much |
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Midlodemocrat
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:46 PM Response to Reply #72 |
106. Missed the point, but thanks for playing. |
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DadOf2LittleAngels
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Wed Jan-30-08 04:08 PM Response to Reply #106 |
121. Wow |
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Midlodemocrat
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Wed Jan-30-08 04:29 PM Response to Reply #121 |
139. You're missing the point entirely. |
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LynneSin
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:16 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. Clearly you don't get it - it's not about the patrons |
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DadOf2LittleAngels
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:22 PM Response to Reply #63 |
75. "It's about the employees. " |
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kirby
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:26 PM Response to Reply #75 |
80. Irish need not apply. |
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DadOf2LittleAngels
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:37 PM Response to Reply #80 |
99. One can say the same |
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kirby
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:42 PM Response to Reply #99 |
103. Business want to 'stay competitive' |
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DadOf2LittleAngels
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:53 PM Response to Reply #103 |
111. Point by Point |
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NashVegas
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Wed Jan-30-08 05:51 PM Response to Reply #103 |
151. Try Advertising |
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StarryNite
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:35 PM Response to Reply #75 |
96. And you can just live |
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DadOf2LittleAngels
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:54 PM Response to Reply #96 |
112. And you can live in a state where revolutaniory free speech is allowed |
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StarryNite
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Wed Jan-30-08 04:18 PM Response to Reply #112 |
133. Smoking bans are happening |
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DadOf2LittleAngels
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Wed Jan-30-08 05:37 PM Response to Reply #133 |
144. Sorry Charlie |
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StarryNite
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Wed Jan-30-08 05:54 PM Response to Reply #144 |
156. My name isn't Charlie... |
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Caoimhe
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Wed Jan-30-08 07:19 PM Response to Reply #156 |
161. good point n/t |
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DadOf2LittleAngels
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Wed Jan-30-08 09:50 PM Response to Reply #156 |
164. You dont have to take a test or obtain a license to drink/smoke |
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DadOf2LittleAngels
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:13 PM Response to Reply #33 |
56. The majority is not always right |
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kirby
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:36 PM Response to Reply #56 |
97. The majority is not always wrong either... |
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LynneSin
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:57 PM Response to Reply #29 |
37. Smokers makes a choice - why should those of us who choose not to smoke suffer? |
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Viva_La_Revolution
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:05 PM Response to Reply #37 |
47. My Great-grandfather who never smoked died of lung cancer. |
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kwassa
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:09 PM Response to Reply #47 |
54. My grandfather was an invalid for 15 years with emphysema from smoking |
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Viva_La_Revolution
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:18 PM Response to Reply #54 |
67. That's sad |
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kwassa
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:21 PM Response to Reply #67 |
74. because smoking is an addictive source of fatal disease easily eradicated. |
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kirby
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:29 PM Response to Reply #67 |
88. Wrong thread... |
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madinmaryland
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:13 PM Response to Reply #47 |
57. My grand-father smoked till he died at 85, and did not die of lung |
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LynneSin
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:13 PM Response to Reply #47 |
58. Oh that lovely strawman |
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Midlodemocrat
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:14 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. Great post. And, dead on. |
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LanternWaste
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Wed Jan-30-08 04:08 PM Response to Reply #47 |
120. You're clever... I'm sure you can find someone to blame |
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DadOf2LittleAngels
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:16 PM Response to Reply #37 |
61. So did The |
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kwassa
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:19 PM Response to Reply #61 |
70. Cigarettes serve no positive social purpose. None. |
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DadOf2LittleAngels
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:23 PM Response to Reply #70 |
76. Neither does weed, alcohol, pornography, .... |
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quip
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:28 PM Response to Reply #76 |
85. Exactly. I just want people to acknowledge the duplicity of their Angst Against Smoke |
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LanternWaste
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Wed Jan-30-08 04:10 PM Response to Reply #85 |
124. I don't think that the smoke from weed contains |
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DadOf2LittleAngels
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Wed Jan-30-08 05:39 PM Response to Reply #124 |
145. Fact.. |
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kwassa
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:29 PM Response to Reply #76 |
87. But those can be used healthfully in moderation. Smoking can't. |
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DadOf2LittleAngels
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:35 PM Response to Reply #87 |
95. Really? |
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kwassa
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:41 PM Response to Reply #95 |
102. oh, I am sure that outweighs the 400,000 that die from smoking-related illnesses each year |
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DadOf2LittleAngels
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Wed Jan-30-08 04:06 PM Response to Reply #102 |
117. Well you said alchol can be enjoyed in moderation |
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LanternWaste
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Wed Jan-30-08 04:10 PM Response to Reply #76 |
123. All other things being equal, what you mentioned are not addictive. |
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DadOf2LittleAngels
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Wed Jan-30-08 04:27 PM Response to Reply #123 |
138. Youre kidding right |
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NashVegas
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Wed Jan-30-08 05:54 PM Response to Reply #76 |
155. Again, Not True (Porn is Questionable) |
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NashVegas
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Wed Jan-30-08 05:53 PM Response to Reply #70 |
154. That's Not True At All |
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madinmaryland
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:26 PM Response to Reply #61 |
82. What about the 100,000,000 people in this country |
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DadOf2LittleAngels
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:39 PM Response to Reply #82 |
100. Chance are if youre in a town with only one resturant |
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madinmaryland
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:47 PM Response to Reply #100 |
107. I guess what you are trying to say is that the almighty dollar |
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DadOf2LittleAngels
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:57 PM Response to Reply #107 |
114. No but thanks for playing.. |
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madinmaryland
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Wed Jan-30-08 04:07 PM Response to Reply #114 |
119. Well, I'll leave it that we have fundamental difference. |
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DadOf2LittleAngels
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Wed Jan-30-08 04:15 PM Response to Reply #119 |
130. Well |
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alarimer
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Wed Jan-30-08 06:04 PM Response to Reply #107 |
158. It's funny how all these people whine about smoking bans |
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Lorien
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:28 PM Response to Reply #8 |
84. One is too many. But here are the facts: |
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madinmaryland
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:49 PM Response to Reply #84 |
108. Thanks Lorien for posting this information. |
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Lorien
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Wed Jan-30-08 09:20 PM Response to Reply #108 |
162. Well, I'm afraid the facts won't matter to a lot of people |
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Lorien
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:33 PM Response to Reply #8 |
92. 49,400 each year. See above post. n/t |
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DadOf2LittleAngels
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:40 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. Yea not to mention |
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kirby
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:44 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Huh? |
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DadOf2LittleAngels
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:51 PM Response to Reply #17 |
25. Everything can be a public health issue |
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kirby
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:54 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. The slippery slope argument... |
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DadOf2LittleAngels
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:06 PM Response to Reply #31 |
49. No it just means we dont crap on a freedom to make us all better |
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LanternWaste
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Wed Jan-30-08 04:14 PM Response to Reply #49 |
128. As a smoker, I'm crapping on the freedoms |
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madinmaryland
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:00 PM Response to Reply #25 |
41. A couple of points about your arguments: |
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DadOf2LittleAngels
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:07 PM Response to Reply #41 |
50. Picking at nits |
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madinmaryland
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:19 PM Response to Reply #50 |
69. Not sure what your response is to my first comment and |
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DadOf2LittleAngels
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:25 PM Response to Reply #69 |
78. To clarify |
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madinmaryland
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:35 PM Response to Reply #78 |
94. My point is, which you don't seem to get, |
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DadOf2LittleAngels
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:40 PM Response to Reply #94 |
101. Nope I made a choice not to |
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LanternWaste
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Wed Jan-30-08 04:15 PM Response to Reply #78 |
129. What's the ratio of food addicts to nicotine addicts? |
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LynneSin
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:17 PM Response to Reply #41 |
66. Personally I think going after fatty foods isn't a bad idea. |
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madinmaryland
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:20 PM Response to Reply #66 |
73. I don't have a problem going after fatty foods, |
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DadOf2LittleAngels
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:26 PM Response to Reply #66 |
81. Some how I did not think you would |
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kwassa
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:33 PM Response to Reply #81 |
93. Facism of the diet ? Are you calling us Diet Facists? |
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DadOf2LittleAngels
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:43 PM Response to Reply #93 |
104. Oh that name will never do for marketing |
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kwassa
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:50 PM Response to Reply #104 |
109. well, about 30% of cancers are related to diet, says the CDC |
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DadOf2LittleAngels
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:58 PM Response to Reply #109 |
116. So 100% of those |
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kwassa
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Wed Jan-30-08 04:06 PM Response to Reply #116 |
118. because it runs up health insurance premiums for everyone, making it unaffordable for many |
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DadOf2LittleAngels
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Wed Jan-30-08 04:13 PM Response to Reply #118 |
127. Well if thats the case |
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kwassa
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Wed Jan-30-08 04:17 PM Response to Reply #127 |
132. Eating is voluntary behavior, and genetics are involuntary. |
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DadOf2LittleAngels
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Wed Jan-30-08 04:18 PM Response to Reply #132 |
134. Ahhh but who you breed with *is* voulntary... |
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kwassa
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Wed Jan-30-08 04:21 PM Response to Reply #134 |
135. and what is your point? |
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DadOf2LittleAngels
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Wed Jan-30-08 05:41 PM Response to Reply #135 |
147. But |
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kwassa
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:01 PM Response to Reply #25 |
43. You say cable TV is worse than second-hand smoke for your children? |
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DadOf2LittleAngels
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:11 PM Response to Reply #43 |
55. Well... Because you *really* want to see it |
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kwassa
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:26 PM Response to Reply #55 |
79. oh please ... |
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DadOf2LittleAngels
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:28 PM Response to Reply #79 |
86. So its a metter of degree? |
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kwassa
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:30 PM Response to Reply #86 |
90. hey, you compared cable TV to smoking, not me! |
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DadOf2LittleAngels
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:44 PM Response to Reply #90 |
105. Can you answer the question then... |
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kwassa
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:52 PM Response to Reply #105 |
110. Smoking is a huge proven health risk. Cable TV is not. |
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DadOf2LittleAngels
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:55 PM Response to Reply #110 |
113. You dont think voilent stupid kids are a health risk |
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kwassa
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Wed Jan-30-08 04:08 PM Response to Reply #113 |
122. um, there are no measurements in that quote of yours. |
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LanternWaste
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Wed Jan-30-08 04:16 PM Response to Reply #55 |
131. So cable teevee is responsible for over a quarter million |
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Viva_La_Revolution
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:09 PM Response to Reply #25 |
52. It's already happening... California City Approves Outdoor Smoking Ban |
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LanternWaste
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Wed Jan-30-08 04:12 PM Response to Reply #12 |
126. All other things being equal... |
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DadOf2LittleAngels
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Wed Jan-30-08 05:43 PM Response to Reply #126 |
148. Sex in public is legal.. |
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skypilot
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
9. As a smoker... |
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quip
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
13. Nice post, Big Nanny Brother |
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TZ
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:57 PM Response to Reply #13 |
35. I will have you know.. |
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quip
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:09 PM Response to Reply #35 |
53. When will people learn that the coolness of a bar depends upon 4 things: |
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TZ
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Wed Jan-30-08 05:52 PM Response to Reply #53 |
152. I'm going to be completely honest here |
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quip
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Wed Jan-30-08 06:05 PM Response to Reply #152 |
159. I'll be on my bunk |
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madinmaryland
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:17 PM Response to Reply #35 |
64. Hey, wait a second there Snyder! |
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DesertFlower
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
14. i hope it happens in every state. |
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Deep13
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
18. Wow, Ohio beat Maryland in protecting public health? |
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TZ
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:58 PM Response to Reply #18 |
38. Parts of MD have had this for years |
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madinmaryland
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:01 PM Response to Reply #38 |
45. Howard County went smokeless three years ago. |
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:47 PM Response to Original message |
19. Been like that in California the past 10 years - what took MD so long? |
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:50 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Big Tobacco... |
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Wed Jan-30-08 06:02 PM Response to Reply #23 |
157. MD has the HIGHEST tobacco tax in the country |
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
21. Rock On!!!!!!111 |
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RamboLiberal
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
27. Wish Pennsylvania's stupid legislature would catch up |
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
28. As promised in your Lounge thread, I'm officially flaming you. |
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madinmaryland
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:53 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Flame away all you want! OUTSIDE!!1!! |
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Bake
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:57 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. Gladly! |
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Wed Jan-30-08 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
36. When is Skinner going to make a Smoking Section (dungeon)? |
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:06 PM Response to Reply #36 |
48. LOL That would be a cool place (like the Lounge). And non-smoker DUers would want to be |
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Midlodemocrat
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:17 PM Response to Reply #48 |
65. The cool DUers ARE the non smokers. |
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:18 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. But I'm a non-smoker AND non-mercer |
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:27 PM Response to Reply #68 |
83. Half-cool, of course. |
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:24 PM Response to Reply #65 |
77. ... |
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PVnRT
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:09 PM Response to Original message |
51. OMGz teh facism! |
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
71. I must say... there's nothing like a good Hate the Smokers thread to take my mind off of Edwards |
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
89. As long as they don't have an inhaling law, I don't care |
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kirby
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:31 PM Response to Reply #89 |
91. Bill? Is that you? n/t |
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El Pinko
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Wed Jan-30-08 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
115. Cool - Maryland just became a little nicer! |
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jhain
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Wed Jan-30-08 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
136. Yee HAW! |
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Wed Jan-30-08 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
140. My mom died from smoking related health issues 4 months ago |
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Wed Jan-30-08 09:28 PM Response to Reply #140 |
163. I'm so sorry for your loss, and for what you endured as a child |
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Thu Jan-31-08 06:09 PM Response to Reply #163 |
173. Thankyou and I am the same way. |
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Wed Jan-30-08 05:22 PM Response to Original message |
142. Great, now lets go after the assholes that wear perfumed products in public. |
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Wed Jan-30-08 10:23 PM Response to Reply #142 |
166. I have not heard of any perfume that kills people by the thousands that don't |
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Wed Jan-30-08 05:35 PM Response to Original message |
143. Hooray for a restriction of freedom that closes businesses!! |
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Wed Jan-30-08 10:21 PM Response to Reply #143 |
165. Deleted message |
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Wed Jan-30-08 11:12 PM Response to Reply #165 |
168. Great reply! |
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Thu Jan-31-08 07:25 AM Response to Reply #165 |
170. What greed? |
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Thu Jan-31-08 07:29 AM Response to Reply #165 |
171. . |
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Wed Jan-30-08 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
149. Congrats! Illinois' took effect the 1st of the year, and it's great! |
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Wed Jan-30-08 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
153. Looks like we have the semi annual thread about smoking again. |
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