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Joe Bacon
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Sun Aug-09-09 12:19 PM Original message |
Another Blow to Public Option--Durbin Open To Dropping It |
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Barack_America
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Sun Aug-09-09 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
1. In a related note, I'm open to dropping my donations to the Democratic Party. nt |
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glowing
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Sun Aug-09-09 12:21 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. +1 |
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timeforpeace
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Sun Aug-09-09 02:26 PM Response to Reply #3 |
51. Translation: public option is dead. And they will expect us support whatever crap bill results. |
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Joe Bacon
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Sun Aug-09-09 04:06 PM Response to Reply #51 |
79. Well, since Mr. Durbin has given up on the Public Option.. |
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moonbatmax
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Sun Aug-09-09 04:18 PM Response to Reply #79 |
83. I would add: |
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guardian
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Sun Aug-09-09 04:41 PM Response to Reply #83 |
91. In large part you are paying for |
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destes
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Sun Aug-09-09 05:34 PM Response to Reply #91 |
107. "Stop being so myopic" yourself, guardian |
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Joe Bacon
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Sun Aug-09-09 05:50 PM Response to Reply #107 |
116. My mom and dad paid premiums for years |
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Veilex
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Sun Aug-09-09 06:28 PM Response to Reply #91 |
124. Wow...thats a very limited view on the issue... |
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kenfrequed
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Mon Aug-10-09 11:41 AM Response to Reply #91 |
164. Myopia is apparantly contagious |
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dgibby
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Sun Aug-09-09 05:49 PM Response to Reply #83 |
115. You are paying for them to kill you with denial of service. n/t |
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clspector
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Sun Aug-09-09 05:05 PM Response to Reply #79 |
99. Let's simplify -- |
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Joe Bacon
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Sun Aug-09-09 05:21 PM Response to Reply #99 |
103. I've had it too. Single Payer or Nothing! |
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JeanGrey
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Sun Aug-09-09 07:11 PM Response to Reply #103 |
126. ABSOLUTELY! NOTHING ELSE WILL WORK. |
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earcandle
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Sun Aug-09-09 07:20 PM Response to Reply #79 |
128. oOOOHHHHHH that is NIceeeeee! |
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SandWalker1984
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Mon Aug-10-09 11:43 AM Response to Reply #79 |
165. Excellent post. |
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Joe Bacon
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Tue Aug-11-09 07:41 AM Response to Reply #165 |
169. Huff Post refused to post this |
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emilyg
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Sun Aug-09-09 08:14 PM Response to Reply #3 |
134. +2 |
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DrDan
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Sun Aug-09-09 12:46 PM Response to Reply #1 |
17. I am afraid our contributions pale in comparison to what these guys |
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DaLittle Kitty
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Sun Aug-09-09 03:56 PM Response to Reply #17 |
77. I Will Fight This Tooth And Nail! The Corruption Of BOTH Parties Is UNDENIABLE (VIDEO) |
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Supersedeas
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Tue Aug-11-09 07:37 AM Response to Reply #17 |
168. I'm sure when Kay Hagan considers BCBS or our web-base donations, she'll change her mind |
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man4allcats
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Sun Aug-09-09 12:57 PM Response to Reply #1 |
20. +2 |
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mascarax
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Sun Aug-09-09 03:34 PM Response to Reply #1 |
70. Yes, same conclusion in this household |
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beltanefauve
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Sun Aug-09-09 04:19 PM Response to Reply #70 |
86. Good point. |
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Grinchie
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Sun Aug-09-09 05:20 PM Response to Reply #1 |
101. They lost me as soon as they appointed Michael Taylor to the USDA again. |
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Hissyspit
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Sun Aug-09-09 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
2. Dennis Kucinich: "Compromising their compromises..." |
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bjobotts
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Sun Aug-09-09 02:08 PM Response to Reply #2 |
44. To act bipartisan some dems are saying "they are open to alternatives" knowing there aren't any |
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bjobotts
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Sun Aug-09-09 02:10 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Co-ops are republican appeasements demonstrated not to work but look who's offering it |
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bjobotts
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Sun Aug-09-09 02:10 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Without a strong public option there is no reform and Obama knows this so don't be mislead |
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bjobotts
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Sun Aug-09-09 02:12 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. While there may be some amendments that suck we will get a public option |
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Iowa
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Sun Aug-09-09 02:58 PM Response to Reply #47 |
61. Obama knows it? So what? He's colluding with big-insurance and will cave like a cheap tent. n/t |
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Grinchie
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Sun Aug-09-09 05:25 PM Response to Reply #47 |
104. It's too late.. He's sold out too much already. |
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DJ13
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Sun Aug-09-09 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
4. I really hate the triangulation of policy by the DLC'ers |
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villager
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Sun Aug-09-09 12:32 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. More and more, that's the question, eh? |
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knixphan
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Sun Aug-09-09 01:55 PM Response to Reply #4 |
39. exactly. that's why they need to be Primaried. |
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mod mom
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Sun Aug-09-09 05:03 PM Response to Reply #39 |
98. Ever wonder why they didn't fight to expose the corrupt voting system? |
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Grinchie
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Sun Aug-09-09 05:30 PM Response to Reply #4 |
105. Exactly. It's an illusion of two parties |
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Eric J in MN
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Sun Aug-09-09 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
5. Way to wimp out in the middle of the process. NT |
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Oceansaway
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Sun Aug-09-09 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
6. Durbin also caved in on the |
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Enthusiast
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Sun Aug-09-09 02:54 PM Response to Reply #6 |
59. I feel pretty well disenfranchised. |
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RandomThoughts
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Sun Aug-09-09 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
7. I understand the concept of being able to discuss things, |
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Enthusiast
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Sun Aug-09-09 02:57 PM Response to Reply #7 |
60. Chris Mathews laughed today |
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KoKo
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Sun Aug-09-09 03:36 PM Response to Reply #60 |
72. Well....he's an "insider" so I'd take him at his word on this one. |
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RandomThoughts
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Sun Aug-09-09 09:26 PM Response to Reply #60 |
142. I would remind him he who laughs last... you know the rest. n/t |
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bkkyosemite
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Sun Aug-09-09 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
8. Everyone needs to call Durbin and tell him he better not back down we pay his wage!!! |
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Kittycat
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Sun Aug-09-09 12:31 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. See post 10 |
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Karenina
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Sun Aug-09-09 01:51 PM Response to Reply #8 |
37. Rather than complain, EVERYONE needs to HAMMER HIM. |
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rhett o rick
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Mon Aug-10-09 10:59 AM Response to Reply #8 |
160. Good grief. You pretend that we have any power over him. Sorry but you can't primary |
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global1
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Sun Aug-09-09 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
9. Health Reform - DOA........ |
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Kittycat
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Sun Aug-09-09 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
10. I just left a VM & sent an Email. |
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rhett o rick
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Mon Aug-10-09 11:02 AM Response to Reply #10 |
161. He knows that he won't be defeated in a primary. You won't get a progressive |
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wroberts189
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Sun Aug-09-09 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
13. Sigh .. we only need 51 votes. nt |
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npk
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Sun Aug-09-09 02:07 PM Response to Reply #13 |
43. The problem is the blue dog dems |
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sabrina 1
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Sun Aug-09-09 03:14 PM Response to Reply #43 |
66. And yet, even in the minority, the Republicans |
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rhett o rick
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Mon Aug-10-09 11:03 AM Response to Reply #43 |
162. You aint gonna get a single repuke and not the Blue Chickens either. nm |
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Hansel
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Sun Aug-09-09 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
14. I think that this is a political manuever to get one of the senate bills to committee. |
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jody
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Sun Aug-09-09 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
15. How can that be when many DUers assured me there is a plan when I asked "where is the plan". n/t |
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flyarm
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Sun Aug-09-09 01:05 PM Response to Reply #15 |
25. shhhh..didn't you know ( per posters here at du) that |
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jody
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Sun Aug-09-09 05:56 PM Response to Reply #25 |
119. I don't trust any politician's promises, only what she/he has done. n/t |
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yourout
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Sun Aug-09-09 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
16. The only alternative to Public Option is Single Payer. |
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Faygo Kid
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Sun Aug-09-09 12:48 PM Response to Original message |
18. Given this, it's likely gone. The insurance industry and PhRMA will win everything. |
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Joe Bacon
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Sun Aug-09-09 12:55 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Obama already sold out to Billy Tauzin |
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mdmc
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Sun Aug-09-09 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
21. DLC!DLC! |
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euphoria12leo
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Sun Aug-09-09 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
22. Blue Dog Compromises |
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Teaser
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Sun Aug-09-09 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
23. Public option will be in the final bill |
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bvar22
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Sun Aug-09-09 01:17 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. No. THE "Public Option" is DEAD. |
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Teaser
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Sun Aug-09-09 02:32 PM Response to Reply #29 |
55. Sorry, I'm not interested in continuing this debate |
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Zhade
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Sun Aug-09-09 02:58 PM Response to Reply #55 |
62. Sorry -- you're wrong and she's right. Get your head out of the sand. |
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Joe Bacon
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Sun Aug-09-09 05:44 PM Response to Reply #62 |
113. Obama backs the "bipartisan" Baucus Bill |
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Grinchie
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Sun Aug-09-09 05:45 PM Response to Reply #55 |
114. You are welcome to do it, but I would prepare for the worst if I were you |
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BlueJac
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Sun Aug-09-09 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
24. Their are all starting to back down............ |
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bvar22
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Sun Aug-09-09 01:20 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. Even Obama has stopped calling it "Health Care Reform", |
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dflprincess
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Sun Aug-09-09 08:49 PM Response to Reply #30 |
138. And the only "reform" is that we will be required to hand |
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Captain Hilts
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Sun Aug-09-09 10:47 PM Response to Reply #30 |
145. That's actually more accurate. nt |
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mvd
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Sun Aug-09-09 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
26. I hope it's not pressure they are getting during the recess |
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KoKo
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Sun Aug-09-09 03:40 PM Response to Reply #26 |
74. A bunch of jackboots wielding guns and shouting and jostling might have |
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mvd
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Sun Aug-09-09 04:20 PM Response to Reply #74 |
87. When there's an atmosphere of "compromise" promoted by.. |
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KoKo
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Sun Aug-09-09 05:35 PM Response to Reply #87 |
108. I wish so too...and hopefully our wishes will be the ones that dominate... |
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Hippo_Tron
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Sun Aug-09-09 04:58 PM Response to Reply #26 |
96. I wish the White House had made more use of OFA |
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KoKo
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Sun Aug-09-09 05:37 PM Response to Reply #96 |
109. I think the Progressive or even "Left of Center" folks are having difficulties..we |
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ScottLand
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Sun Aug-09-09 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
27. Well, I'm okay with that. |
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varelse
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Sun Aug-09-09 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
28. Mandating purchase of a flawed product from a bloated corporate monopoly |
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FlyByNight
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Sun Aug-09-09 01:20 PM Response to Original message |
31. Corporations uber alles |
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dgibby
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Sun Aug-09-09 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
32. Face it, folks. |
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frebrd
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Sun Aug-09-09 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
33. They're all open to dropping it just as soon as......... |
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scytherius
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Sun Aug-09-09 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
34. If that happens I am done with the Dems forever. |
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Jakes Progress
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Sun Aug-09-09 10:53 PM Response to Reply #34 |
146. I think I gotta be with you there. |
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Titonwan
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Sun Aug-09-09 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
35. Tell them to bring a canteen, sleeping bag and Depends® if they want to try. |
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still_one
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Sun Aug-09-09 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
36. Good move Dick. A lot of Democrats sure showed the stuff they were made of for the IWR |
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orleans
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Sun Aug-09-09 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
38. note to dick: |
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Metta
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Sun Aug-09-09 01:57 PM Response to Original message |
40. Uh, Dick ..., that's a betrayal of the public good. Are you that much in the industriy's pocket? |
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dmosh42
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Sun Aug-09-09 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
41. Not much different than the 'Bush' era! n/t |
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KamaAina
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Sun Aug-09-09 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
42. Change we can believe in. |
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kevinbgoode
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Sun Aug-09-09 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
46. I'm more than willing to give up supporting this party then. |
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d_b
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Sun Aug-09-09 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
49. viable 3rd party plz |
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Kermitt Gribble
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Sun Aug-09-09 03:54 PM Response to Reply #49 |
75. "fangbutt snotclaws" |
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d_b
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Sun Aug-09-09 08:53 PM Response to Reply #75 |
139. hehe |
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Vinca
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Sun Aug-09-09 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
50. Right after I read this piece I got a phone call from the DCCC |
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euphoria12leo
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Sun Aug-09-09 02:28 PM Response to Original message |
52. It's A Thin Line Democrats |
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valerief
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Sun Aug-09-09 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
53. Without a public option there is no bill, unless the bill is single payer. nt |
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sharesunited
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Sun Aug-09-09 04:14 PM Response to Reply #53 |
81. That's what Howard Dean asks. Without a public option, exactly what IS it? Not reform. |
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orbitalman
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Sun Aug-09-09 07:22 PM Response to Reply #53 |
129. Without a public option MINIMALLY... |
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AzDar
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Sun Aug-09-09 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
54. Call ALL the sellout fuckers who enjoy taxpayer-subsidized health care... |
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asdjrocky
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Sun Aug-09-09 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
56. Oh yeah, we're dead. They just haven't buried us yet. |
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rollingrock
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Sun Aug-09-09 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
57. Rolling over and playing dead. |
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cleverusername
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Sun Aug-09-09 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
58. Wierd comment about nuns? |
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Peregrine Took
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Sun Aug-09-09 03:11 PM Response to Reply #58 |
65. Oh please, 99% of them are good people. Just a couple of jamokes ruined |
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Politicub
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Sun Aug-09-09 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
63. Insurance co-ops? No! We want the public option |
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silverweb
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Sun Aug-09-09 03:09 PM Response to Original message |
64. I just emailed him. |
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Saxon
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Sun Aug-09-09 03:18 PM Response to Original message |
67. HR reform was never about HR reform |
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JackDragna
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Sun Aug-09-09 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
68. Health care the latest under the bus. |
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dysfunctional press
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Sun Aug-09-09 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
69. i give up. |
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BobRossi
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Sun Aug-09-09 03:35 PM Response to Original message |
71. Are any of you getting the hint yet? |
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NorthCarolina
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Sun Aug-09-09 04:19 PM Response to Reply #71 |
85. Heaven forbid anyone should mention "DLC" |
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BobRossi
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Sun Aug-09-09 05:20 PM Response to Reply #85 |
102. Glad to see there are still some around here that haven't drunk the Kool-Aid. |
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enki23
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Sun Aug-09-09 03:39 PM Response to Original message |
73. fuck you, durbin. fuck. you. |
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NorthCarolina
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Sun Aug-09-09 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
76. You have to wonder why our elected officials are so adverse to |
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LibDemAlways
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Mon Aug-10-09 10:07 AM Response to Reply #76 |
157. Ordinary people are of practically no value to politicians. It's all |
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Kermitt Gribble
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Sun Aug-09-09 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
78. No strong public option = |
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Joe Bacon
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Sun Aug-09-09 04:12 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. I've had it! SINGLE PAYER OR NOTHING! |
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Libertas1776
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Sun Aug-09-09 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
82. This website |
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ima_sinnic
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Sun Aug-09-09 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
84. tomorrow I'm reregistering as an Independent |
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humbled_opinion
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Sun Aug-09-09 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
88. Our Leadership just doesn't get it. |
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regnaD kciN
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Sun Aug-09-09 04:38 PM Response to Original message |
89. I refuse to get all worked up about "news" from the HuffPost... |
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MasonJar
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Sun Aug-09-09 04:38 PM Response to Original message |
90. I hope that the Progressives in the House will not accept this and kill |
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raging_moderate
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Sun Aug-09-09 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
92. send him a message loud and clear |
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mzmolly
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Sun Aug-09-09 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
93. Mandates without a public option, is not doing something positive. |
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dflprincess
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Sun Aug-09-09 08:45 PM Response to Reply #93 |
137. Even with a public option, the bills put forth have been nothing but |
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pa28
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Sun Aug-09-09 04:54 PM Response to Original message |
94. Surprise! |
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taggline
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Sun Aug-09-09 04:56 PM Response to Original message |
95. SEE POST 79... |
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irislake
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Sun Aug-09-09 04:59 PM Response to Original message |
97. I feel sick for you |
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Joe Bacon
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Sun Aug-09-09 05:38 PM Response to Reply #97 |
110. All we hear is how you wait months for any care |
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kevinbgoode
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Sun Aug-09-09 05:53 PM Response to Reply #110 |
118. So just ask her why the Canadians haven't privitized their system |
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Joe Bacon
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Sun Aug-09-09 08:17 PM Response to Reply #118 |
135. Her "Christian" Canadian friends want our system |
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Enthusiast
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Mon Aug-10-09 04:25 AM Response to Reply #135 |
149. It is purely manufactured |
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irislake
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Sun Aug-09-09 09:25 PM Response to Reply #118 |
140. It's political suicide for a Canadian politician of any party |
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MessiahRp
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Sun Aug-09-09 06:03 PM Response to Reply #110 |
122. Their "Canadian Friends"... Riiiiggghhhhttt..... |
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irislake
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Sun Aug-09-09 07:06 PM Response to Reply #110 |
125. I am very happy with the care I get. |
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Sun Aug-09-09 08:19 PM Response to Reply #125 |
136. would you mind if I sent your comment to my sister? |
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Sun Aug-09-09 09:43 PM Response to Reply #136 |
143. I would be happy to write to your sister |
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Sun Aug-09-09 11:12 PM Response to Reply #143 |
147. She claims they are from Toronto and waited months for care |
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Mon Aug-10-09 04:08 PM Response to Reply #147 |
167. I lived in Toronto for more than 20 years. |
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Mon Aug-10-09 04:30 AM Response to Reply #125 |
150. "They are so immoral. How can they sleep at night?" |
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Sun Aug-09-09 09:26 PM Response to Reply #110 |
141. Tell your sister..this is one American who lived in Canada for 22 years..and .. |
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Mon Aug-10-09 04:16 AM Response to Reply #97 |
148. Be vigilant, friend to the North |
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Sun Aug-09-09 05:09 PM Response to Original message |
100. Look Dick, The public option is something positive for the American people..nt |
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Sun Aug-09-09 05:34 PM Response to Original message |
106. Fucking cowards. Every last one of them. Unbelievable. |
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Sun Aug-09-09 05:39 PM Response to Reply #106 |
111. I'm going to be Optimistic here. ...For every one we EXPOSE we get a DIVIDEND! |
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Mon Aug-10-09 04:32 AM Response to Reply #106 |
151. They play cowards. |
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Sun Aug-09-09 05:39 PM Response to Original message |
112. Co-ops will work to benefit the rich (who always want more & better) |
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Joey Liberal
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Sun Aug-09-09 05:51 PM Response to Original message |
117. The republicans win again |
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Mon Aug-10-09 04:34 AM Response to Reply #117 |
152. I wonder if I care any longer. |
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Sun Aug-09-09 05:57 PM Response to Original message |
120. This is why we should have been insisting on single payer from the start. |
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Sun Aug-09-09 06:02 PM Response to Original message |
121. Anybody Want to Defend This? |
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WillYourVoteBCounted
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Sun Aug-09-09 06:19 PM Response to Original message |
123. and I'm open to dropping Durin |
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Clear Blue Sky
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Sun Aug-09-09 07:11 PM Response to Original message |
127. Correct me if I'm wrong but... |
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Sun Aug-09-09 07:27 PM Response to Reply #127 |
130. except we have traitors in the party now and they won't give us what 35 other countries give their |
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Sun Aug-09-09 07:28 PM Response to Reply #130 |
131. Vote the bastards out... |
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Mon Aug-10-09 04:37 AM Response to Reply #127 |
153. You are receiving a little dose |
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Sun Aug-09-09 07:33 PM Response to Original message |
132. If everybody is so upset , why is it a bad idea to take it to a town hall meeting and voice concern |
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Sun Aug-09-09 07:39 PM Response to Original message |
133. Reconciliation |
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New Dawn
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Sun Aug-09-09 09:58 PM Response to Original message |
144. No 'public option' = fascist economics. Here is why... |
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Mon Aug-10-09 04:40 AM Response to Reply #144 |
154. No better than Bush's medicare plan. |
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Mon Aug-10-09 05:02 AM Response to Original message |
155. If public option dies, so does any hope of reform, and any |
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Mon Aug-10-09 08:45 AM Response to Original message |
156. Asshole |
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Mon Aug-10-09 10:14 AM Response to Original message |
158. It looks like what will emerge from this is a weak bill mandating a |
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Mon Aug-10-09 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
159. Man oh man I have just lost all faith in this system |
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Mon Aug-10-09 12:02 PM Response to Reply #159 |
166. Watered down, mandatory PRIVATE insurance is NOT reform! |
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Mon Aug-10-09 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
163. I hope his constituents are open to dropping him. nt |
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