Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Why Weiner needs to resign

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU
 
PhillySane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 07:46 PM
Original message
Why Weiner needs to resign
Plain and simple, nobody's gonna stop talking about this until he does. It's sad. Every aspect of it. But he brought this on himself. He needs to step aside so we can all move on.
Sorry. Just calling it the way I see it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 07:49 PM
Response to Original message
1. Nah. He needs to finish out his term....
then go away.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PhillySane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 07:51 PM
Response to Reply #1
4. He'll just become ineffective
dare I say, impotent. No one will listen or care. He needs to go.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 07:57 PM
Response to Reply #4
12. All he needs to do is vote the way his constituents want him too.....
I don't know why people think bloviating on morning talk shows is being effective.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 07:51 PM
Response to Original message
2. So? His sex life is none of our business.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PhillySane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 07:53 PM
Response to Reply #2
5. Exactly...
every time I look at him now I see a big giant boner.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 07:58 PM
Response to Reply #5
15. Your fantasies of erect penises are not Weiner's fault nor his problem.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PhillySane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 08:00 PM
Response to Reply #15
19. Unfortunately
it isn't a fantasy. It's a picture of his erection that was posted on this board. He took it. He made it public. He is an ass.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 08:08 PM
Response to Reply #19
24. Did he send it to you? Do you believe that you are in any way an intended recipient of that pic?
I could be wrong, but I'm guessing the answer is 'no' for both - in which case it is none of your business.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PhillySane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 08:11 PM
Response to Reply #24
27. It's posted on DU
I'm not a wimp. I look at shit here. He made that happen, not me.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 08:13 PM
Response to Reply #27
29. Are you claiming Anthony Weiner posted a pic of his penis on DU?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PhillySane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 08:21 PM
Response to Reply #29
38. He put it into the public domain.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 08:43 PM
Response to Reply #38
44. Is it your assertion that he intended for it to be viewed by anyone other than one specific person
that is not you?
You're carrying on like he rented a billboard near your bedroom window with a pic of his penis on it. If you're so victimized by a 3rd-4th-20th hand duplicate of a pic that was not for you, to you or about you then you should seek legal representation. Tell them how hurt you were and how your shoes flew off after you fell down the stairs.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PhillySane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 08:50 PM
Response to Reply #44
50. What about this don't you get?
If Anthony Weiner sent that dic pic to somebody, I don't give a fuck! He posted it on his friggin' Twitter account! How fuckin' dumb is that? I am not bothered by his dick. I'm bothered by his stupidity and his need to then lie about it afterwards! Those were his choices, not mine! He has become an embarrassment to the party AND congress because of his own dumbass actions! That's why he needs to go.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 09:00 PM
Response to Reply #50
58. You, sir, do NOT speak for 'the party'. What part of THAT do you NOT GET?
I am not the least bit emabarrased by Weiner. I support him a hell of a lot more than I do some others that allege to be Dems.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PhillySane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 09:02 PM
Response to Reply #58
60. In fact
I do speak for the party.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 06:03 AM
Response to Reply #60
116. Yeah? Then you need to get with the program and see where people really stand on this -
not just what the DLC'ers see as an opportunity to attempt to force out a voice from the left. The overwhelming opinion is against you.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 09:16 PM
Response to Reply #27
68. I don't believe he sent it to DU
if you have complaints about what is posted here then you need to talk to the poster
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PhillySane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 09:18 PM
Response to Reply #68
70. I'm not complaining that the picture was on DU
it's everywhere! That's the point. Mr. Weiner made that happen. Before you hit the send button, THINK!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 09:34 PM
Response to Reply #70
86. I ponder a great deal and you might take the same advise
before you accuse someone of not thinking............

It would seem that they media has great interest in democratic sexual organs
but when it comes to republican sexual organs they find little to talk about
perhaps you should ask them why this is........

On one hand you have a man that is proud of his penis and wants to share it with the world and on the other you have a man that hires prostitutes so he can dress up in diapers so he can be treated as a baby. I would be afraid of a Senator that thought of himself as a baby making decisions that affect my life.

This latest sexual media frenzy is a huge distraction, I agree, but it is the media that is feeding it and leaving the real issues on the floor so no one talks about them. Congress does not want to deal with them anyway.

I do not believe it has come out that he asked anyone for sex. I would ask you which is worse, sharing erotic pictures with people or trying to destroy this country by taking the rights and freedoms away from the American people?? I know which my answer would be.

Ponder that............
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PhillySane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 09:56 PM
Response to Reply #86
99. I don't care what any of them do in their spare time
Truly. This isn't about Weiner's sexual self. It's about distraction. Seriously. Do you want this guy hugging Michelle Obama at the next fundraising dinner? Come on.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 10:06 PM
Response to Reply #99
102. It is a distraction
The only person that should be concerned who hugs Michele should be Michele.

I do not know what the answer is. Should we have standards for elected officials?? Would they be applied uniformly?? Should we demand that any politician that lies be told to resign?? And yes the lie is worse than the act in this case. Did he hurt any one besides himself, his wife, his family?? He disappointed a lot of people but did he hurt them??

Will this country be better off if he resigns?? No way to know unless he resigns.............
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 07:54 PM
Response to Reply #2
8. That's not the argument he chose to make.
Edited on Wed Jun-08-11 07:55 PM by tritsofme
That would have been a sensible argument and probably would have allowed him to ride out the storm.

Instead he chose to stand up and lie to the cameras. Stick a fork in Weiner, he's done.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 08:02 PM
Response to Reply #8
20. It's still none of your business.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PhillySane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 08:06 PM
Response to Reply #20
23. Sorry, but
you can't say that anymore. He made it our business. He posted the pictures on the internet. Then lied. It is our business, he allowed it to be. Forced it on us in a way.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 08:11 PM
Response to Reply #23
28. He 'forced it on you'? Seriously? Was he skulking around the subway @ 2am in a trenchcoat?
No. It is completely and totally none of your concern whatsoever.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 08:20 PM
Response to Reply #28
35. No, he hit "reply all" to an email titled "MAKE MORE PENIS!!!!" saying "OMG it works!" n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PhillySane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 08:35 PM
Response to Reply #28
42. First, you have no right to decide what is or isn't MY concern
Anthony Weiner took a picture of his dick. That's not my concern. Anthony Weiner posted it on a public account on the Internet and then lied about it. That IS my concern. Anthony Weiner is doing damage to his office and the Democratic party as a result of his highly stupid and inappropriate actions. That is my concern as well. Do not tell me what is or isn't my concern. Your beginning to sound a little fascist.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 08:54 PM
Response to Reply #42
52. I can say with near certainty that anything related to Weiner's sex life does not involve you in any
way, shape or form. In other words, it's none of your business. Additionally, any comments about his sex life - which we have established does not pertain to you - are likewise none of your business. If you feel he is unfit for office then vote him out - IF you happen to live in his district. Perhaps a little counseling is needed to help you cope with a potentially unhealthy obsession with a certain legislator's reproductive organ.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PhillySane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 09:06 PM
Response to Reply #52
62. No
it, perhaps, is his obsession, not mine. And perhaps, the fact that he lied as well is an indication of HIS sickness. Not mine. And perhaps you need to ask someone where the train to reality leaves off and when.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
pintobean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 08:22 PM
Response to Reply #20
39. It is our business
We pay him. We get to set the standards for our elected officials. Sexting and lying do not come anywhere near those standards. He's done.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Lizzie Poppet Donating Member (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 08:21 PM
Response to Reply #2
36. Agreed. But the fact that he's a liar IS.
Weiner lied about what happened for days. That's what people should be upset about, not his frat-boy antics.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 09:08 PM
Response to Reply #36
118. He lied about his sex life - which is none of your business anyway. You've never lied about yours?
To anyone? Ever?
He's human just like you.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
metalbot Donating Member (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 09:52 PM
Response to Reply #2
98. His sex life isn't...
...but his judgement is.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 09:10 PM
Response to Reply #98
119. Then don't vote for him if you feel he's unfit.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 07:51 PM
Response to Original message
3. Some of the women that have been receiving sexting messages from REBPUBLICANS
need to speak up now - and then the media will have something new to talk about.

It is definitely time for a good REPUBLICAN scandal right now :)




Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LiberalLoner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 07:55 PM
Response to Reply #3
10. Well, that's an idea, some of us could get some fake hot photos and start texting
R's to try to entrap them. I guess it would be the patriotic thing to do. But it won't be me. I was willing to put my life on the line for my country once, sure, but some sacrifices are just beyond what I can bear.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 08:21 PM
Response to Reply #10
37. I'm sure there is no reason for entrapment. There must be someone out there NOW with messages and
photos from at least one REPUBLICAN :)

Larry Flint was just on Maddow's show, I wish he had announced another MILLION dollar reward for anyone exposing a high office government official like he did when Livingston and Vitter were exposed.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 05:14 AM
Response to Reply #3
115. I would welcome a new GOP sex scandal.
The media would have to STFU or cover the GOP scandal too.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 07:53 PM
Response to Original message
6. Thats fine, talk about it for years.
Edited on Wed Jun-08-11 07:54 PM by RandomThoughts
Decades if you like. Until smears have no impact on society, and are not used by smear merchants to try and control a population. And until the smear merchants are investigated for the actions they are doing against society and many people.

Talk about it all you like. Every day if you want.

But don't back down to smear merchants. Or you are giving them the ability to decide what society should be like.






And while you talk about titillating gossip about people talking about sex, note your hypocrisy.

It adds some humor.

And the beer and travel money will be sent.


Highlander- there can be only one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOs2OTgofII








Brothers in Arms - Dire Straits
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5JkHBC5lDs

Bonnie Raitt - I Can't Make You Love Me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nW9Cu6GYqxo

Bonnie Raitt - Nick Of Time
http://www.123video.nl/playvideos.asp?MovieID=407128

Dire Straits - Walk of Life
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CknuCTRAW_I







Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PhillySane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 07:59 PM
Response to Reply #6
17. quite a media file you got there
got any good ideas?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 08:04 PM
Response to Reply #17
22. I thought the "rulers of you all"
Was a great comment on how do you measure up.

Seriously, do you see the hypocrisy.


Need a little humor once in awhile.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PhillySane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 08:09 PM
Response to Reply #22
25. I'm sorry
my brain is a little foggy from all the cock shots I've been looking at lately. Could you explain?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 08:46 PM
Response to Reply #25
47. Not really, it is a rare moment of a bad joke.
To counter another bad joke in a small context of that song.

If you don't see the bad joke, or the other bad joke, then that is far better, but for those that saw a bad joke in the song, I figured I would correct that with a different bad joke. I usually just ignore it, but it is a bit of a brain smasher, so figured it needed a different perspective.

But really the fixation on sex by the news, and the use of sex to humiliate people, or use it against people is a problem that is limiting good leadership when everyone has flaws, and anyone can be smeared.

And if we could get the use of paparazzi, smears, and entrapments for smears, out of society, then thousands of people being held back from doing what they think is better would be able to have a bit more influence, by knowing they don't have to fear smears.


But anyways, there is a problem with the use of humiliation and smears used against people. And areas of removal of constitutional rights used to get those smears.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PhillySane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 09:00 PM
Response to Reply #47
56. I agree with the use of smears argument you make
but, I feel, in this case, Mr. Weiner smeared himself. He has no one but himself to blame. And I don't have a problem with anyone playing with, experimenting with, or sharing their sexuality. When you decide to make it public, which he did, be brave enough to own up to it. Which he didn't. If he had come out and said, "You know what, that is my johnson, and I am damn proud of it". I'd be on his side right now. He didn't do that though. Too bad.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 09:30 PM
Response to Reply #56
82. You don't understand the concepts of justice.
how can you call yourself sane.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PhillySane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 09:32 PM
Response to Reply #82
85. Well, now
why don't you go ahead and explain it King of Sanity.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 11:11 PM
Response to Reply #85
106. I already did many times, you weren't listening.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PhillySane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 11:26 PM
Response to Reply #82
108. there are many different forms of justice
Edited on Wed Jun-08-11 11:41 PM by PhillySane
some we act out on ourselves
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 08:51 PM
Response to Reply #17
51. Good ideas about what?
I am due beer and travel money, and correcting that is a good idea.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PhillySane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 09:01 PM
Response to Reply #51
59. What a ya got?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 09:14 PM
Response to Reply #59
64. Why would you think I might have a good idea you would want to hear.
And not know that I am due beer and travel money and correct that.

Can you explain that.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PhillySane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 09:16 PM
Response to Reply #64
67. Actually
all of your ideas are good ones.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 09:26 PM
Response to Reply #67
77. I know what you think.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PhillySane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 09:31 PM
Response to Reply #77
84. Psychic
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 11:14 PM
Response to Reply #84
107. Obvious
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 07:54 PM
Response to Original message
7. after Clarence Thomas resigns, let's talk.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
think Donating Member (316 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 08:18 PM
Response to Reply #7
31. and after David Vitter resigns as well and after Bush
admits he took America to war based on lies.....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
orion007 Donating Member (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 08:40 PM
Response to Reply #31
43. We as parents have been known to say to our kids "just because
Edited on Wed Jun-08-11 08:40 PM by orion007
Johnny or Kathy does it doesn't make it right",and using these excuses for Weiner's obsession/behavior are insulting and hypocritical to our children.
Shameful,
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
think Donating Member (316 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 09:03 PM
Response to Reply #43
61. I don't care about Anthony's sex life
Edited on Wed Jun-08-11 09:13 PM by think
I care about a getting our government out of the hands of mad men. You can play all nice if you like. The republicans don't and won't. If you want to live in a feudal society that's your choice. I already played nice during the bush era and have to live with the fact we killed hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis and wasted trillions of our tax money on a war based on lies.

I can get over the penis much quicker than the death of iraqi children.....

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
orion007 Donating Member (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 09:16 PM
Response to Reply #61
69.  Weiner and Israel...anti -human rights with the Palestian children
In May 2006, Weiner attempted to bar entry by the Palestinian delegation to the United Nations.<27> He claimed that Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas did not represent the PLO, and implied that this was because the group is listed as a terrorist organization by the US State Department. Weiner further stated that the delegation "should start packing their little Palestinian terrorist bags." Weiner went on to claim that Human Rights Watch, the New York Times, and, in particular, Amnesty International are biased against Israel.




Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ozone_man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 09:27 PM
Response to Reply #69
80. Now that cound sway my opinion.
It is none of my business if he is twittering or flirting online, but I can't support anyone who has such an anti-Palestian position. Of course NY congressman may find it difficult to be elected being pro-Palestinian. Still, I vote my conscience. Even Obama did not win my vote, too beholden to his biggest corporate contributor Goldman Sachs.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 08:58 PM
Response to Reply #31
55. yep.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 07:55 PM
Response to Original message
9. the media and the right wing won't stop till they get their resignation
Edited on Wed Jun-08-11 08:14 PM by spanone
all the more reason to hang in there anthony
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 07:55 PM
Response to Original message
11. What a shitty argument
People will talk...let them talk. It'll be over by Halloween.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 07:57 PM
Response to Original message
13. Clinton weathered worse--and the Repubs were hurt politically by *their* behavior. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 08:15 PM
Response to Reply #13
30. +1.
He screwed up. He apologized sincerely.

The media and Republicans continuing to hammer him just makes them look petty and vindictive.

Investigate. If he didn't abuse his position and didn't break any laws, move on.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 07:58 PM
Response to Original message
14. op - I do not agree with you. It's way to early to demand that. Shades of the Clinton takeout.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PhillySane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 08:04 PM
Response to Reply #14
21. I was highly disappointed by him too
fortunately, for the rest of us, there were no photos taken. I don't need my elected official to double as porn stars.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 08:18 PM
Response to Reply #21
33. Are you in his district?
If so, why don't you just vote against him instead of assuming that you speak for 654,000 other people who maybe don't give a crap what he does in his free time as long as he continues to represent their interests.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PhillySane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 08:28 PM
Response to Reply #33
40. Okay
So, if Nancy Pelosi had naked photos of her that SHE posted on the internet herself, that wouldn't be a distraction to the party?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 08:46 PM
Response to Reply #40
46. The problem isn't the photos.
It's the obsessive and disproportionate attention they receive.

The solution isn't to cave to pressure. All that does is prove that this tactic works and encourage even more desperate panty sniffing from fourth tier "journalists" desperate for their 15 minutes.

The solution is to stop paying attention to them. And to write to your local media and ask them to stop paying attention to them.

I mean, it's not like the economy is in such amazing shape and we've achieved world peace, solved the energy crisis and climate change, cured AIDS and eliminated poverty, so we have nothing else to worry about besides a slightly vain but otherwise bright and effective man sending rude pictures to groupies.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PhillySane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 09:11 PM
Response to Reply #46
63. Do you think they should leave poor Arnold alone? John Edwards?
the French guy? Just curious?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 09:26 PM
Response to Reply #63
79. Arnold and Edwards, yes,
unless they were using state resources to screw around, in which case I say prosecute away.

Dominique Strauss Kahn committed a crime- attempted rape. So yes, he should be prosecuted.

Anthony Weiner, as far as we know, did not use state resources and did not commit a crime. If evidence emerges that he did either of those things, I will be happy to give a shit. For the moment, I'm afraid I just don't.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PhillySane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 09:30 PM
Response to Reply #79
83. How do you know anyone did anything wrong
your assumption is based on purely the media's coverage. The courts have not decided on any of these yet?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 09:35 PM
Response to Reply #83
87. Exactly.
I don't have a problem with the ethics investigation on Weiner (or on Schwarzenegger or Edwards). If it turns out they misused funds then throw the book at them.

But it's way too early to say "Weiner must resign" when it hasn't even been alleged that he did anything illegal.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PhillySane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 09:44 PM
Response to Reply #87
94. And Kahn?
Edited on Wed Jun-08-11 09:44 PM by PhillySane
Hasn't the media judged him already before his day in court? Or is it just cause he's French?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 10:05 PM
Response to Reply #94
101. Is this really *that* hard to understand?
Nobody has accused Anthony Weiner of doing anything even vaguely illegal. He is the subject of an ethics investigation which may or may not uncover evidence of wrongdoing. If it does and indictments are handed down, then, depending on the strength of the case, it might be appropriate to suggest that Weiner step down to focus on his defense.

Domnique Strauss Kahn was accused of attempted rape by a maid and is in the middle of an ongoing prosecution. There is absolutely heaps of evidence that he is guilty of committing a felony assault.

These situations are not remotely equivalent.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PhillySane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 10:15 PM
Response to Reply #101
104. But you yourself
have declared the media at fault here. Kahn has been buried by them already, and you have willingly taken their pill. Why, I have no idea. So, it really isn't about the media, it's about our own personal beliefs. We make our own judgements based on what we hear. That's what the media's job is. To tell us, so we can make our own judgement. It's not their fault that Anthony Weiner goofed and sent his picture out into the public sphere. HE did that. Not them. And, maybe he didn't break any laws. It's not about laws. It's about judgement. One's own personal judgement and the consequences thereafter.

Posted this elsewhere:
He should just "hang in" there. Maybe give us a new pic every week or so. We'd all be so proud of our Weiner. Wouldn't we?
I think he needs some time off. Spend it with his wife. Get to know her a little. Screw what we want or need. I think he needs to worry a little about himself.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 09:38 PM
Response to Reply #63
90. Who should leave them alone? Everyone who minds their own business. Deeds are.
done. Weiner ranks at the lowest end among offenders - at this moment in time. He is a dynamite politician and still can be one.

Judge not etc.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 09:21 PM
Response to Reply #46
73. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
PhillySane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 09:26 PM
Response to Reply #73
78. Wrong place
Edited on Wed Jun-08-11 09:28 PM by PhillySane
sorry.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 07:59 PM
Response to Original message
16. Nope. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 07:59 PM
Response to Original message
18. Has Diaper Dave resigned?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
orion007 Donating Member (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 08:10 PM
Response to Original message
26. I agree and what about our teenagers? They're getting arrested
for sexting their peers and now they see so many adults explaining away Weiner's sick behavior as "it's none of my business", it's between him and his wife, or his constitutes.

What hypocrisy and loss of our moral compass.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PhillySane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 08:20 PM
Response to Reply #26
34. It is hypocrisy
and that is the crux of the argument. We can't have it both ways. If you dislike Arnold for impregnating his housekeeper, you can't turn a blind eye to Mr. "look at me ladies". I don't have a problem with people acting on their sexual impulses. But, when YOU decide to make it public, which he did, then you need to own up to it. If it becomes a distraction to your party, your piers, you need to step aside. Spitzer did it. He's fine now, and I'm fine with him. Anthony needs to look for another line of work.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
orion007 Donating Member (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 08:34 PM
Response to Reply #34
41. Spitzer is an excellent example and he is what I call someone
who actually took responsibility for his actions and resigned and by doing so has had a stunning comeback and it will be interesting to see if he ever runs for office again.
I feel that Spitzer learned humility, something that Weiner is in need of.

Anthony can stay home and care for the baby that is supposedly on its way.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PhillySane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 08:45 PM
Response to Reply #41
45. Yea
just hide the computers and smartphones.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 08:54 PM
Response to Reply #34
53. Repubs believe they can have it both ways.
The repubs are pressuring Weiner to resign but not for Vitter.

Don't let the repubs get there way.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 08:18 PM
Response to Original message
32. Weiner should resign now let things cool off. Then run the next time
and let the voters.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MikeW Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 08:47 PM
Response to Original message
48. dont know
He will be treated like he's radioactive if he stays for another term.

Most likely they'll shut him out of committee appointments as well.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 08:48 PM
Response to Original message
49. Nobody stopped talking about Bill Clinton
Edited on Wed Jun-08-11 08:49 PM by Canuckistanian
He didn't quit. It's one of the things I admire most about him.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 08:55 PM
Response to Original message
54. No
What needs to happen is for America, & apparently that includes many on DU, to take a nice big helping of "Grow the Fuck Up" & stop acting like a combination of middle school kids & pearl clutchers when it comes to sex.

dg
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PhillySane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 09:14 PM
Response to Reply #54
65. So
married congressman, who hold high office, should not grow the fuck up?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 09:22 PM
Response to Reply #65
76. :sigh:
It's a private matter, no crimes were broken. Stop acting all high & mighty & offended because a man took a picture of himself & posted it on the internet.

dg
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PhillySane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 09:36 PM
Response to Reply #76
89. I don't care that he took a picture of his penis
I've done it too. Shared it with friends. I'm okay with that. Get it?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 09:00 PM
Response to Original message
57. Are you in his CD or are you his wife? If not, your opinion doesn't matter. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PhillySane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 09:21 PM
Response to Reply #57
72. Beg to differ
EVERYONE'S OPINION MATTERS!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
craigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 09:15 PM
Response to Original message
66. So what if they talk? He consistently stands up to the repubs. This will go away in a week or 2.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ironrooster Donating Member (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 09:18 PM
Response to Original message
71. i agree. do people on this board know what blackmail is?
do you guys understand that the politician (he is just a politician) has been compromised?
do you understand that politicians can be made into puppets by having something on them?

this isn't about weiner (the man) - it's about his capacity to serve his constituents' best interests.
that's what we want politicians to do - represent our interests.
so it's not like some neighbor of yours "sexting" it's about an elected politician possibly getting a phone call at 3am
in the morning "suggesting" how he should vote in the morning.

hell - we don't even know if what has been uncovered is the worst
of it. he lied thus far - why not lie more?

why the fuck do not otherwise sane people around here comprehend the severity of the damage that has been done?
ferchrissakes - he isn't a "private" citizen! he doesn't get a pass on this.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PhillySane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 09:22 PM
Response to Reply #71
75. Nailed it
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 09:22 PM
Response to Original message
74. The standards have already been set - he should not resign
He should follow the example set by Vitter, Newt Gingrich and others and just keep doing his job.

If I were a republican I would be sitting back laughing my ass off at how people on this progressive Democratic forum are advocating the resignation of one of the most progressive Democrats in congress for doing something far less egregious and offensive than some of the shit my party's people have pulled over the years.

If you really think the republicans (and their friends in the liberal media) are going to cut us any slack because we throw Weiner to the dogs if have a bridge I want to sell you. They're laughing at you right now because you fell right into the trap they set for you.

IMO Weiner committed only one potentially fatal faux pas - he apologized to that piece of shit andrew brainfart, but that isn't reason enough for me to want him gone. Hopefully he'll realize he fucked up by doing that and not repeat the mistake.

Congressional morality standards are in the shitter thanks primarily to our liberal media's refusal to pursue republican's little adventures. Weiner is no better and no worse in this regard than many of his fellow elected officials.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ironrooster Donating Member (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 09:27 PM
Response to Reply #74
81. no. the power structure in the US is not symmetrical.
Edited on Wed Jun-08-11 09:29 PM by ironrooster
repubs DO NOT represent who they purport to represent - so the rules ARE DIFFERENT for them.

Let me explain: the repubs are already compromised and do their masters' bidding. is that what you want for us?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 09:36 PM
Response to Reply #81
88. Are you asking if I want to cut the legs out from the loudest progressive voices
just so I can say "we're better than them"?

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. We can crucify Rep. Weiner while they sit around laughing, destroying the American middle class with our help.

We're playing by the Marquis of Queensbury rules while they're kicking us in the nuts. In this case the stakes are so high that the ends DO justify the means. If I were Rep Weiner, I'd tell the republicans as well as the spineless Dems who are having fainting spells, I'm not leaving.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PhillySane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 09:40 PM
Response to Reply #88
92. The problem is
this story is now bigger than him (pardon the pun) and won't stop until he is gone. I don't really want him to go. But, you know, sometimes the noble thing to do, the right thing to do (and watch out cause here comes another one) is to fall on your own sword.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 09:43 PM
Response to Reply #92
93. OK if we're gonna engage in bad metaphors
We should not throw him to the dogs, under the bus or anywhere else. That's just what they want - is doing their dirty work for them.

We should instead (wait for it) circle the wagons around him.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PhillySane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 09:46 PM
Response to Reply #93
96. And reward
his idiotic behavior?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 09:59 PM
Response to Reply #96
100. Hey, I don't make the rules
His behavior is indeed idiotic, but as I said before, the standards are already set waaay low. Weiner is no worse than others in congress and as long as nobody is calling for the resignation of a scumbag like vitter, Weiner should stay as well.

If we want to raise the bar (another trite phrase) it should be raised for everybody. I will demand Weiner's resignation when I hear a similar outcry from the republicans and the pundits for vitter's.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ironrooster Donating Member (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 09:45 PM
Response to Reply #88
95. you are assuming that weiner will still be able to be productive -
he won't - for any number of reasons that have already been stated. this could be like the gulf oil disaster
5k barrels - oops no... 15k - oops... i meant 2 million. trickle, trickle. we don't know the extent of this steaming pile
embarrassment - and you won't hear it from weiner himself because the man is obviously prone to lying. i guess we'll just
have to wait see picture of him actually banging a hooker...courtesy of bbart.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PhillySane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 09:50 PM
Response to Reply #95
97. I actually was gonna hang with him (pardon the pun, again)
until today's picture surfaced. I really don't need to see anymore. It's over. Please. Before it get's worse. I don't have a problem with him personally. Dude, go for it! You just can't be a congressman anymore. Sorry.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 09:38 PM
Response to Original message
91. If you say so..
Jesus Christ I thought that us southerners were wimps...apparently not.

Carry on....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 10:12 PM
Response to Original message
103. I can't wait for months of House Ethics Committee testimony by Weiner's Women!!
Edited on Wed Jun-08-11 10:54 PM by ClarkUSA
Just think what will happen if he doesn't resign... the nation's voters can all look forward to a few more months of exciting revelations aka. more pics of Weiner's nekkid erect weiner and bulging pecs/shorts as well as the juicy contents of the untold amount of .pdf files of his sexting after the House Ethics Committee investigation of Weiner gets rolling.

Wow. That should be real fun for all of us Democrats! Just imagine the kind of testimony by Weiner's Women that will no doubt be leaked daily to the media by gleeful Republicans! Fun, fun, fun!

And won't all of this set up such a wonderfully warm and conducive environment for the Democratic Party's messaging and recruitment campaign as Pelosi tries hard to take back the House in 2012?

Only a killjoy would want Weiner to resign. :sarcasm:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Zax2me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 10:20 PM
Response to Original message
105. To keep people from making fools of themselves defending him?
No, wait.
Then I would not have entertainment.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 11:29 PM
Response to Original message
109. Agreed - it will settle in more obviously over the next 2-3 days
But my guess is he will be a public official no more by week's end.

And yes, it's very sad we lost a very articulate fighter, with amazingly poor judgement.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 11:36 PM
Response to Original message
110. You're wrong. This photo shows the reason ...



Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 11:37 PM
Response to Original message
111. Are you still talking about Larry Craig?
He didn't resign.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 11:40 PM
Response to Original message
112. I just went to the New York Times, MSNBC, CNN, and Fox News websites
And only on one of those was Anthony Weiner still headline news and not relegated to the politics section. I think you can guess which one.

Give it two to three weeks and nobody will give a rat's ass about Anthony Weiner anymore. Fox news may still be talking about it, but it's either that or speculating on why Obama took so long to release his long form birth certificate.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 05:12 AM
Response to Original message
113. I disagree.
He needs to stay in office as long as his constituents want him. We need a majority in the house. We won't get that if our most cherished representatives resign.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 05:13 AM
Response to Original message
114. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 06:06 AM
Response to Reply #114
117. Would you like some eggs with that spam?
FFS.

/facepalm
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Oct 31st 2024, 06:15 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC