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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 07:52 AM
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"Blood Libel"... really Sarah?
Edited on Wed Jan-12-11 07:59 AM by SoCalDem
I call "failure to google" on her speech writers.... this won't end well for her..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_libel
Blood libel
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Blood libel (also blood accusation<1><2>) refers to a false accusation or claim<3><4><5> that religious minorities, almost always Jews, murder children to use their blood in certain aspects of their religious rituals and holidays.<1><2><6> Historically, these claims have–alongside those of well poisoning and host desecration–been a major theme in European persecution of Jews.<4>

The libels typically allege that Jews require human blood for the baking of matzos for Passover. The accusations often assert that the blood of Christian children is especially coveted, and historically blood libel claims have often been made to account for otherwise unexplained deaths of children. In some cases, the alleged victim of human sacrifice has become venerated as a martyr, a holy figure around whom a martyr cult might arise. A few of these have been even canonized as saints.

In Jewish lore, blood libels were the impetus for the creation in the 16th century of the Golem of Prague by Rabbi Judah Loew ben Bezalel. Many popes have either directly or indirectly condemned the blood accusation, and no pope has ever sanctioned it.<7> These libels have persisted among some segments of Christians to the present time, and recently Muslims as well.

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http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/judaica/ejud_0002_0003_0_03147.html

BLOOD LIBEL

BLOOD LIBEL, the allegation that Jews murder non-Jews, especially Christian children, in order to obtain blood for the Passover or other rituals: most blood libels occurred close to Passover, being basically a another form of the belief that Jews had been and still were responsible for the passion and crucifixion of Jesus Christ, the divine child; a complex of deliberate lies, trumped-up accusations, and popular beliefs about the murder-lust of the Jews and their bloodthirstiness, based on the conception that Jews hate Christianity and mankind in general. It is combined with the delusion that Jews are in some way not human and must have recourse to special remedies and subterfuges to appear, at least outwardly, like other men. The blood libel led to trials and massacres of Jews in the Middle Ages and early modern times; it was revived by the Nazis. Its origin is rooted in ancient, almost primordial, concepts concerning the potency and energies of *blood. In the early 2000s a controversy among scholars surrounded the argument that the blood libel began in the Middle Ages in the wake of the sacrifice of Jewish children by their parents during Crusaders raids on Jewish communities on their way to the Holy Land.
Origins

Blood sacrifices, practiced by many pagan religions, are expressly forbidden by the Torah. The law of meat-salting (meliḤah) is designed to prevent the least drop of avoidable blood remaining in food. Yet pagan incomprehension of the Jewish monotheist cult, lacking the customary images and statues, led to charges of ritual killing. At a time of tension between Hellenism and Judaism, it was alleged that the Jews would kidnap a Greek foreigner, fatten him up for a year, and then convey him to a wood, where they slew him, sacrificed his body with the customary ritual, partook of his flesh, and while immolating the Greek swore an oath of hostility to the Greeks.

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Some suspect that stories like this were spread intentionally as propaganda for Antiochus Epiphanes to justify his profanation of the Temple. Whatever the immediate cause, the tale is the outcome of suspicion of the Jews and incomprehension of their religion.

To be victims of this accusation was also the fate of other misunderstood religious minorities.

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During the Middle Ages some heretical Christian sects were also afflicted by similar accusations. The general attitude of Christians toward the holy bread of the Communion created an emotional atmosphere in which it was felt that the divine child was mysteriously hidden in the partaken bread. The popular preacher Friar Berthold of Regensburg (13th century) felt obliged to explain why communicants do not actually see the holy child by asking the rhetorical question, "Who would like to bite off a baby's head or hand or foot?" Popular beliefs and imaginings of the time, either of classical origin or rooted in Germanic superstitions, held that blood, even the blood of executed malefactors or from corpses, possesses the powers of healing or causing injury. Thus, combined with the general hatred of Jews then prevailing, a charge of clandestine cruel practices and blood-hunting, which had evolved among the pagans and was used against the early Christians, was deflected by Christian society to the most visible and persistent minority in opposition to its tenets.

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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:00 AM
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1. She's using the religious "code" language from her dominionalist church.
Another ghost writer.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 10:36 AM
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27. Here's hoping that Keith picks up on it and hammers it home
This is crass to the nth degree..
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 11:18 AM
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32. the weird religious code language reminds me of that weird ceremony with Paul Mathee
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 11:32 AM
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33. Sarah probably is clueless & will only be angrier when we pitch a fit over this
Now she'll have to spend another 5 days trying to figure out her next move:rofl:
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:03 AM
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2. The term has been used by freepers recently in the same context
I thought she'd have at least the sense not to go there, but NOOOooo!
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 09:48 AM
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20. Another dog whistle. Thanks to everyone who bothered to identify it for what it is. nt
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:04 AM
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3. Ouch! I wasn't familiar with that term, either.
With so many other terms, they had to use those? That was the only term that jumped out at me in the entire writing.

Thank you (I think) for posting the definition. I wish we never had to see that term used again, but I have a feeling everyone will know the term and the meaning by the end of the day.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:05 AM
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5. It was unfamiliar to me, as well..but it HAD to have some "special" meaning for her to use it
Edited on Wed Jan-12-11 08:06 AM by SoCalDem
Millions are googling & will find more reason to despise her...
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 09:49 AM
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22. I'm going to run multiple searches on the term to get it ranked up. nt
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 10:11 AM
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24. me too.. Blood libel + Palin n/t
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NuclearDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:05 AM
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4. Right, I forgot us libs were going to round up the conservatives
And then gas them in the camps.

Oh wait, nevermind, Sarah Palin's just an insensitive, awful....person. (Apparently can't use the word I would really like to here...)
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:09 AM
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6. Sarah is always all about sarah
Edited on Wed Jan-12-11 08:09 AM by stray cat
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:16 AM
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7. Holy crap. Here's the quote from her statement.
"But, especially within hours of a tragedy unfolding, journalists and pundits should not manufacture a blood libel that serves only to incite the very hatred and violence they purport to condemn. That is reprehensible."

Sarah the perpetual victim. What a vile, narcissistic, self-serving statement. She makes me ill.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:57 AM
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13. How it was received in FreeperWorld..(mixed reviews)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2655557/posts


1 posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2011 5:42:49 AM by reaganaut1
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Blood libel? Wierd way of putting it. That normally applies to an ethnic group.
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2 posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2011 5:45:52 AM by Natufian (t)
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“journalists and pundits should not manufacture a blood libel that serves only to incite the very hatred and violence that they purport to condemn. That is reprehensible.” “

That says it all. Well done Sarah
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3 posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2011 5:45:52 AM by NavyCanDo
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To: NavyCanDo

Here we go

4 posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2011 5:46:40 AM by GoCards (Why me? Why not me?)
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To: reaganaut1
Remember, the MSM is out to “Kill” Conservatives. Katie Couric, Andrea Mitchell, Diane Sawyer, Brian Williams, Paul Krugman, or anybody from the NY Times. This shooting is but another example of thousands that demonstrate the intense hatred of the MSM of our cause. They will try anything to censor and destroy our movement. They went after Reagan, they went after George Bush, and as soon as Sarah Palin was nominated they went after her. They want to censor talk radio and that is all we have to make our voices heard.
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5 posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2011 5:48:11 AM by mfish13 (ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES!!!!)
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I .... wow... I am literally shaking! WOW That just blew my mind!

We are witnessing history!

Palin stands alone against the liberal horde... and WINS!

Well... she wont stand alone anymore! Because I will stand with her to the end!

GOD BLESS SARAH PALIN!
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6 posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2011 5:48:20 AM by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: mfish13
Remember, the MSM is out to “Kill” Conservatives. Katie Couric, Andrea Mitchell, Diane Sawyer, Brian Williams, Paul Krugman, or anybody from the NY Times. This shooting is but another example of thousands that demonstrate the intense hatred of the MSM of our cause. They will try anything to censor and destroy our movement. They went after Reagan, they went after George Bush, and as soon as Sarah Palin was nominated they went after her. They want to censor talk radio and that is all we have to make our voices heard.

AND the dim congresscritter just said a conservative gov should be put up against a wall, and SHOT!!!
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8 posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2011 5:52:07 AM by ExGeeEye (Freedom is saying "No!" to the Feds, and getting away with it. "Speak 'NO' to Power!")
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To: Natufian
“Blood libel? Wierd way of putting it. That normally applies to an ethnic group.”

Partially correct - “Blood libel” refers to the medieval Christian accusation that Jews killed Christian children and used their blood for matzos. But, today it is often used to describe False Accusations, which is the way Sarah used it.
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9 posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2011 5:53:20 AM by NavyCanDo
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To: reaganaut1

Here we go!! Palins dignified statement concerning the horrific acts of a madman and the disgusting behavior
of the left in trying to cash in on the tragedy will be boiled down to two descriptive words of their attempted assignment of blame and attacked !!
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DTinAZ Donating Member (325 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 11:45 AM
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35. that's not quite what she really said...
She (once again) said "pundints" instead of "pundits" and "proport" instead of "purport." These aren't her words, and her writers wrote "blood libel" so she said "blood libel," not being inquisitive enough to ask them what it means. But yes, I fully agree with your adjectives and am similarly made ill by her lack of the slightest bit of remorse for her frequent and irresponsible use of the language of gun violence.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 12:23 PM
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41. You are more brave than I am.
I couldn't stomach listening to her read the statement; I was cutting and pasting from the hard copy.

I guess Sarah, isn't smart (or confident?) enough to hire people smarter than she is to do her speech writing.
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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:37 AM
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8. So, even in her so-called condemnation of hate language, she is using religious coded hate language.
Probably took her staff 3-4 days to look that one up.
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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:39 AM
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9. Disgusting.
Wouldn't that be an especially insensitive thing to say considering several of the victims are Jewish?

Sarah has shoved that foot in her mouth all the way to her buttcheeks.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:47 AM
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11. She'll issue another "refudiation" saying that someone from her staff
misunderstood & misspoke....never her:)
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:46 AM
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10. Blood Simple
she is
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JoDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:51 AM
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12. Can't believe
she went there. You are not the victim of a pogrom. You are being called to task and asked to take responsibility for the results of your words. Two entirely different things.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 09:09 AM
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14. As troubling as this latest Palin statement is, it may be helpful
in the end. Maybe, now, more will see the self-serving nature laced with self-importance of SP. She has gotten some awful advice. She could have wrapped her arms around the tragedy to help heal the divide but oh no-o-o- she comes out as angry in her defense.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 10:07 AM
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23. I hope you are right, but don't expect much
Edited on Wed Jan-12-11 10:07 AM by SoCalDem
She just is grasping at straws & hoping to step on Obama's toes..

It;s obvious that she did not write this, or even participate in the writing of it.. how do I know?

sentences..full sentences

and even then she got parts of it wrong..like dueling pistols.. the vernacular usage has the emphasis on "dueling"...not pistols, as she read it:)
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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 09:12 AM
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15. Just another violence-laden code word to "motivate" her followers
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 09:26 AM
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16. so she's persecuted like the Jews, eh?
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 09:40 AM
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19. It's always about Sarah
:puke:
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 09:28 AM
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17. It seems stunningly inappropriate (to say the least)
in view of the fact that Gabrielle Giffords is Jewish.

I already knew what it means but couldn't understand why it's such a key feature of the official RW talking points. It seems like a term they'd avoid, not one they would go out of their way to use. It's almost as though they are deliberately taunting her.

I know righties love to portray themselves as the victims and not the victimizers, but "blood libel" really seems over the top.
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JamesA1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 09:34 AM
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18. Not a bad political speech
but that all it is, a political speech, and one designed to make excuses for her actions while attacking others for theirs.

I would have respected her more if she had spent more time talking about the victims and asking for more respectful debate instead of trying to rationalize over the top hate speech. I’mean dueling? Is she kidding?

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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 09:48 AM
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21. for a monkey.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 10:21 AM
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25. Palin's stupidity is breathtaking.
Is she insane?
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 10:24 AM
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26. Yes, I think she is..
and she's armed too...

If she has half a brain, she'll announce that her handicapped baby needs her..and then drop out for a year or 7 or 9 or forever:)
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demokatgurrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 10:53 AM
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28. NO - no "failure to google"
They knew EXACTLY what they were doing. Some F***ing nerve they have. I am still fuming about this so I can't really articulate much
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 10:57 AM
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30. I think it will backfire spectacularly this time..
I think the "others" wanting to run, will pummel her with this.. There is NO excuse for this, when all she had to say was :

I am sincerely sorry that this happened, and we will make sure that nothing like this ever happens again, even if it was not responsible for this person's actions"..and then STFU
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 10:55 AM
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29. Palin lifted the phrase from a 1/10 WSJ editorial.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 10:58 AM
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31. She did not read the article OR write the missive
neener neener on her:)
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 11:34 AM
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34. maybe she is saying in her dog language that it is Giffords fault
being Jewish, that the little girl died?

who knows what that empty pate means.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 11:45 AM
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36. I hope she has saved a lot of that money, because I think someone stuck a fork in her
& she's done:)
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 11:48 AM
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37. I wonder if Baba Wawa is still feeling sorry for her?
:banghead:
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 11:49 AM
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38. I first heard the term last month about The Carthaginians.
I was taking a Yale iPod University course on the Punic Wars.
He discussed how the Romans used it against Carthage then
discussed its origins which went to early Jewish writers on their adversaries the Phoenicians.
As you know Carthage was a Phoenician colony.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Carthage

Blood libels in the modern world North America

Accusations of ritual murder have gradually disappeared from mainstream Christianity, and some child martyrs have been removed from the official Catholic calendar of saints. In the modern world, only radical groups and individuals advance accusations of ritual murder and blood libels.



One claim states that physicians in the People's Republic of China who perform abortions consider the fetus a delicacy and eat it.<2> The story, reported from Hong Kong by Bruce Gilley, was investigated by Senator Jesse Helms, and gruesome artwork reminiscent of traditional depictions of blood libel was featured in several pro-life campaigns. The only use for "human fetal tissue" is in the medical research field, particularly stem cell research.


Another contemporary blood libel in the United States alleges, falsely, that both neopagans and Satanists use human blood, sexual abuse, or ritual murder, especially of children, in their rituals. Often Satanism, all of the diverse neopagan religions, the role playing game Dungeons & Dragons, and sometimes Roman Catholicism and liberal or non-fundamentalist Christian denominations, are portrayed as expressions of one monolithic and ancient global conspiracy of Satan-worshippers. Mike Warnke, William Schnoebelen,Lawrence Pazder and Michelle Smith] Jon Watkins, Bill Pricer, and Ken Wooden are some of the voices of these libels.



http://www.worldlingo.com/ma/enwiki/en/Blood_libel
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SayitAintSo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 11:52 AM
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39. All republican strategists collectively 'headsmacked' themselves...
When they heard her spew that stupidity in her 8 minute defensive rant.

Palin has officially 'jumped the shark' politically now...
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 12:21 PM
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40. She is an imbecile...a dangerous imbecile
Every time she opens her mouth, I am amazed at the ignorance that tumbles out..
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 12:30 PM
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42. Idiot Wind
Idiot wind, blowing like a circle around my skull
From the Grand Coulee Dam to the Capitol
Idiot wind, blowing every time you move your teeth
You’re an idiot, babe
It’s a wonder that you still know how to breathe

Bob Dylan
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CraftyGal Donating Member (602 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 12:33 PM
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43. Here is the actual video from her Facebook Page
Edited on Wed Jan-12-11 12:37 PM by CraftyGal
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 12:35 PM
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44. All that was missing was "America, the Beautiful" playing in the background
Sarah, the musical..a flop!
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CraftyGal Donating Member (602 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 12:48 PM
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48. No kidding!
Here is the direct link: http://vimeo.com/18698532">Sarah Palin: "America's Enduring Strength" on vimeo.
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Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 12:38 PM
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45. I thought it was nice of Sarah to use this opportunity
to remind us all how fucking stupid she truly is.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 12:41 PM
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47. as dense as a Golden Gate Fog Bank
Edited on Wed Jan-12-11 12:44 PM by SoCalDem
and 200% less esthetically pleasing

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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 12:40 PM
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46. This is a perfect example of how Sarah Palin would utterly FAIL to lead our country during a time
of crisis. We would do well to pay attention to how weak and selfish she really is.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 11:14 PM
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49. Sarah Crosshairs didn't know what she was saying but her handlers do
It was on purpose.
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 11:15 PM
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50. What's totally appalling is on the day of the services she tried to make it all about her.
Edited on Wed Jan-12-11 11:16 PM by deacon
She couldn't stay silent for one more day?
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 11:17 PM
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51. She planned to pre-empt Obama, so that everypne would marvel at her magnificent speech
and then compare HIS to hers...

:rofl:

silly rabbit...
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 11:20 PM
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52. And attempted to make the real victims second in importance. Reprehensible.
Edited on Wed Jan-12-11 11:21 PM by deacon
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