Reply #23: That's not news to me, but thanks anyway.

[tom_paine]

I've owned more computers than I have cell phones. Recently I have read where most of our "morally superior" computer recycling goes, to China, where peasantssmash them apart with hammers.

The last thing you said was almost certainly true, regarding poor people holding onto their phones much longer. I was not mentioning this from the angle of being "morally superior", but to point out the facts.

I am well aware that we are all addicted to what Western Civilization has bequeathed us, which is, for the top 5% of people on Earth (of which you and I, in terms of personal wealth, probably reside in the top 1%) a "Star Trek" Antimatter Age lifestyle using Oil Age energy and technology.

Whoops! Putting the cart before the horse, aren't we?

My point was not to wax morally superior, hence my pointing out that I have owned cellphones like anyone else, and computers and all the rest that you ocrrrectly point out generates the same kind of waste.

My point was to bring up the massive amounts of waste generated by even this small aspect of "living the Antimatter Age lifestyle with Oil Age energy inputs and pollution.

Which is a lot to say that I basically agree with what you said, and that it's not news to me.