Reply #21: Ah, the tactic of sophists everywhere

[TPaine7]

when they come up against facts they wish to evade.

Lets put aside for the moment that nowhere in the BOR, (or the entire US Constitution for that matter), is any mention of "womans reproductive rights" to be found

Absolutely, irrefutably factual and too hard to lie one's way out of? Check.

whereas the wording of the 2nd amendment seems pretty clear to the majority of Americans

Absolutely, irrefutably factual and too hard to lie one's way out of? Check. That it protects a personal right is even accepted by the overwhelming majority of competent anti-gun scholars. (That would exclude the Brady hacks, and some foreigners who pretend expertise in Second Amendment law.)

whereas the wording of the 2nd amendment seems pretty clear to the majority of Americans and at least 5 sitting SCOTUS justices.

Absolutely, irrefutably factual and too hard to lie one's way out of? Check. Heller makes it impossible to fool even iverglas fans on this one.

So what do you do if you have the ethics of a garden slug, but lies are cut off in every direction? Well there's always the old standby--bullshit.

Ah yes, the refrain of the anti-choice brigade everywhere ...

For those with "special needs" who were impressed with this tactic, please think. Facts are facts. To say that certain facts are spoken by "bad" people is no argument at all. It does not matter if Bush, Stalin, Mao, Cheney, Manson and even iverglas agree on something true; their agreement cannot make it false.

But you probably learned that in second grade, didn't you?

PS: I stopped directly addressing iverglas a while ago. I still point out her BS, sometimes, however.