Reply #172: I disagree that that is an important litmus test. Things like separation of church and

[No Elephants]

state, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, habeas corpus, right to counsel, due process, right to freedom from torture, etc. are much more important to me. If we can preserve them for humans, I'll be thrilled, even if corporations get some of them, too.

Corporations need free speech because newspapers, TV snd radio stations and other media outlets are often corporations. And they should get due process, IMO.

Most of the other things I mentioned, like torture and habeas corpus, don't apply to corporations anyway. In sum, I am much more concerned that my rights and yours are protected than I am that corporations may share a few of those rights with us.