Reply #44: the problem with this

[Two Americas]

If we define conservative as "those who got it wrong," then yes, of course, conservatives are always wrong. We can then say that any time someone we identify as a conservative gets anything right, they must therefore be "off the ranch." You are trying to make reality fit your theory, rather than your theory explain reality.

If we said "ruling class" rather than "conservatives" - explained this in terms of relative access to power and resources rather than trying to make vague ideological distinctions fit reality, rather than trying to identify teams and put labels on them, like "conservative," we would be closer to the truth.

But even then, the ruling class is not "wrong" - they are right about how to promote their own interests at the expense of the rest of us.

The other problem is that Democrats have done and are doing much to advance the interests of the ruling class, the wealthy and powerful few. It really has nothing to do with ideology, nor with being right or wrong, it has to do with whose interests are being served. That is what politics has always been about.

Of course the right wing propaganda is wrong - it is all lies, because otherwise the people would not support the ruling class agenda if the truth were told about it. But the right wing propagandists are not trying to be right, they are trying to fool people, and doing a good job of it, so it isn't accurate to say they get it wrong. They are not trying to get it right. They don't care about being right - that is a fetish of modern liberalism, and being right is the consolation prize in politics. They are trying to grab power and resources while we play naive and childish games about who is right and who is wrong.