Reply #46: those are not concrete steps

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The first part would require backing by a massive part of the population and would require them to be vocal and visible.

the second part is even bigger because no one cares about the greens or candidates like kucinich except those of us who are reform minded. Without corporate money you can see just how successful these candidates have been.

Kucinich was completely marginalized and the Greens are a running joke among nearly 50% of the voting population and have earned themselves the ire of an additional 75% of the remaining 50% of the electorate thanks to the Nader candidacy (whether or not you think it is deserved, you cannot deny that a very large portion of the electorate are very pissed off at Nader and the Greens over the perception that his candidacy put Bush in the White House).

This is not a proposal at all. This is just a recognition of one of the problems facing democracy today. I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything here even though I am probably coming across as one, but the fact is that these problems run much deeper. The only way to address them is through mass media of one sort or another and to increase visibility of the issues. The mass media is pretty heavily controlled by the corporations who own them who have a vested interest in the status quo.

I don't have any solutions either. But I do know that the first action to be taken is to get Bush out of office. He has to go, so right now Kerry gets my vote. Voting for anyone else right now simply undermines the country even more. Another four years of Bush would be an unmitigated disaster that might not be recoverable.