Reply #175: indeed they are

[iverglas]

They are precisely what the state is required to provide in order to comply with that "no person shall be deprived of life, liberty or property without due process" business.

And allowing you to kill somebody on a whim is a violation of that duty.

Allowing you to kill somebody without requiring that you provide justification for doing so that amounts to necessity in order to avert serious injury or death to yourself is a violation of that constitutional right. And then you're is entitled to due process on a charge of homicide for, like, killing somebody.

But then I realized long ago that the only people who count are gun militants, and the only bit of your Bill of Rights that counts is that second amendment, read as bizarrely as gun militants can get right-wing hacks in the courts to agree to.

The right not to be deprived of life without due process, fuck that noise.