Reply #60: They did make mistakes...

[neoblues]

Probably hundreds of them; the thing is, in an operation like this--especially given the size, the "excuse" of incompetence works in their favor! They were competetent enough to succeed; all other screw ups--including all the pieces of evidence that indicate a conspiracy and especially those that appear to be due to incompetence just add to the mass of confusion--keep people arguing over tidbits and make the story all but unprovable.

Alas, when they have the power to confiscate and destroy evidence and sideline any serious investigation while also being able to control what gets reported in the mass media; they can do anything. They can even stand there and say up is down and down is up and deny the obvious and there's nothing anyone can say or do or prove. I would go so far as to say that if we had audio/video of a meeting of the main players (Bush, Cheney... etc) all having a meeting and clearly saying they planned to facilitate the upcoming hijack attempt and to line the pockets of one of their wealthy compadres they would arrange for thermite charges to be planted in the three WTC buildings, add explosives to the aircraft (at least the plane that hit the pentagon--to make the official story truly implausible which would have the effect of weakening the position of and causing contention between the conspiracy researchers--who would be right that the Pentagon appeared to be hit by a missile for lack of collateral damage and high-explosive type flash/smoke, but have many witnesses to the actual airliner to refute them (wheels within wheels within wheels)), and ensure massive and comprehensive recovery of all the evidence--after all, they'd be investigating a national catastrophe; except that their purpose would be to hide/destroy the evidence, as well as admitting to the planning of investing on futures just prior to the attack (hey, one can't forego such a plum opportunity to grab millions) and so on... AND it would seem that either nobody would believe the video (it would have HAD to be faked) or nobody would do anything about it or it would disappear and we'd never hear of it again or the whole thing would never reach the public (despite copies being sent to every major media outlet) or the powers that be would say 'whatever you think we were saying, you're mistaken' and for national security reasons, the tape has been classified (so anyone who sees it, shares it with anyone or broadcasts or transmits it has committed a felony and/or treason and will be locked up (disappeared). In the end, it would be lucky to have either the distribution (limited) or the effect (at least measurable) that the Downing Street Memos had.

Despite what it says about our reality--that we cling to the very thin illusion of freedom, I don't think there's anything anyone could (or would) do. I doubt that even if we could convince the vast majority of citizens that the BA did all of these things--including murdering thousands of U.S. citizens on 9/11--that we could even manage to organize much more than a few feeble demonstrations (which would be ignored both by the government AND the media). I'm afraid the American people no longer have the will, have the courage and strength of character to stand up and demand our government clean up it's house (impeach, impeach, impeach**)--even in the face of such criminal malfeasance. I do hope I'm wrong.

I do hope I'm wrong, but there does seem to be something wrong with us. We seem to be suffering from some sort of lethargy and prone to fear. Our government dumps on us again and again and at best a few people mumble quietly that that isn't right. Even when there are millions who are so deeply angry it's making them physically ill; they can't seem to organize to even make their message heard--and actually applying any real pressure on the government (such as through public political demonstration) seems almost out of the question (and when it does occur, it's only in reference to fairly modest concerns--sort of 'safe' issues; of the sort one really doesn't expect the government to take seriously)(when it takes something 'seriously', nowadays, one would expect large numbers of arrests and for the military to step in to put down the demonstration). Are we afraid? Perhaps. Do we simply lack "real" leadership--that can actually reach the people with their message and lead us in responding to the government? Yes, and that's probably the main reason we're unable to truly organize a national response--well, that and the fact that one reason we don't have such leadership is that no one can actually "reach the people" thanks to the political bias/control over the public mass media. While we still have the use of the internet (and remember, if push comes to shove, the government can shut down the internet to our use overnight (or quicker)), we might want to do some serious organizing (and perhaps even make alternative plans--shared phone lists or some such; so that we can reach each other if the internet ever does shut down)(of course, every name that gets onto such lists would no doubt be added to a special project at the FBI and every phone call thereafter would be listened to by the NSA...). Maybe we should be fearful and/or paranoid. By the way, paranoia based on real causes, isn't paranoia--it's rational cautious thinking.

Anyway, the sheer magnitude of 9/11 makes it hard to believe (The BIG Lie). Even so, the apparent incompetence helps rather than hinders them--allowing for the excuses that the failures were due to incompetence and even that surely no conspiracy occurred because they're too incomptent to pull it off. Neither of which reflect reality. Actually, one of the Republican goals is to make government appear incompetent--so, while it's certainly not why they want us to think the government was incompetent, it's a secondary benefit to them.

Facinating to hear that this all happened the day after Rumsfeld announced/admitted that the Pentagon couldn't account for 2.3 trillion dollars... Oops. I suppose that would be the ultimate in terms of distracting the public off of a real government scandal.


**impeach--on such a scale, impeachment would be extraordinarily difficult--it would be a Constitutional Crisis; there's no precedent--how do you remove a whole branch of the government? Immediate presidential elections? What about the thousands of Federal Department heads that were appointed or otherwise put in place, who were (are?) loyal to the current panty-waist in chief?