Reply #100: I'm counting on the insurgency succeeding?

[RapidCreek]

My, how interesting. I noticed that you neglected to answer the question I asked about when exactly the "insurgency" began. You also neglected to elucidate on what exactly an "insurgent" is.

I'll give you a little help. Arabs started fighting Americans and blowing each other up in Iraq after Americans invaded and occupied Iraq...allegedly to rid it of non-existent weapons of mass destruction. They continue to fight US influence of any and all kinds in their homeland to this day. Much like I or any other red blooded American would do if the shoe were on the other foot. They became "insurgents" when your friends in the media were ordered by your friends in the White house to refer to them as such. Whether these "insurgents" are right or wrong in their motivations is none of my business...what is my business is the use of our military as a mercenary force. One which is responsible for the death of many many many innocent people.

In a civilized "Christian" society "War" IS failure...when other options exist....which of course many did. You see, before the "war" as you like to call it, there was little, if any "sectarian violence". Your war brought it on....and the occupation will continue to bring it on. To suggest otherwise is the suggestion of a moron. You might care to educate yourself a bit on the history of sectarian strife in Iraq before you begin making your grand pronouncements. Suffice it to say, it was nearly non-existent. While the preceding rational backing up the failure of this "war" falls under the "nuanced" heading you seem to identify with more often than not...there is another much more blatant reason that it is a failure. The invasion was undertaken on the pretense that our military was going to Iraq to rid the country of weapons of mass destruction. Since none existed then or now...the invasion was a failure the day that it began. Worse than being a failure it was and is, a criminal venture. Of course I recognize that you and other lovers of commercially motivated war have attempted to usurp the professed reasons for the invasion with rewritten history designed to help you save face, indeed, to paint yourselves as some sort of well meaning promoters of freedom and Democracy...but anyone with a a third grade intellect recognizes it for what it is.

The "war" is a failure...The question remains, however...how much more failure we as a nation will tolerate while folks such as yourself attempt to redeem themselves from the ignorance which rules them or to hide their appetite to dominate and steal from people in another land.

I prefer a war torn Iraq? Quite the contrary. None the less, it is rather an odd conclusion for one to arrive at who is such a cheerleader for the "war" himself. If Iraq were not war torn, its society downtrodden and desperate...your rather arrogant friends in the White house/US Chamber of Commerce wouldn't enjoy near as much freedom to set up shop under the guise of "bringing about Democracy". Without a war torn Iraq, those who attempt to evade paying taxes couldn't stuff their pockets full of my tax dollar rebuilding that which my tax dollar also destroyed. Nor would they reap the profits of "privatizing" that which, up until the war, they couldn't lay their hands on so easily.

You seem really to love writing "it has been widely reported". Widely reported by who? Fox News? CNN? NBC? Now if I remember correctly these outfits aided and abetted The White house in the perpetration of the very lies which led to your failed "war" in the first place. When did these tools of propaganda become the font of virtue? Was I asleep when someone reenacted the Fairness Doctrine?

What I'd do if the clouds parted tomorrow, all fighting stopped and a pure Democracy emerged is a non-issue. Because the clouds won't part tomorrow, the fighting won't stop and a "pure Democracy" won't emerge....no matter how long you and those like you suggest that it will. History has proved that...but history is something those in your camp like to ignore...Israel is an ersatz Democracy, Israel has elections and Israel is far from stable. Interestingly our country is also financing the occupation of Israel, to the tune of 4 billion a year. How long have we been paying for the Israeli occupation? How much longer will we be paying for it? Do you suppose that things will be different in Iraq? How much has it cost so far? How much more has Bush asked for? For how many more years will I, my children and their children have to pay to protect your friends in this little adventure in capitalistic global domination, under the guise of liberation? 40? 50? 100?

I don't need to wag my finger at Bush and say I told you so. Waving a finger at Bush and saying I told you so would be rather a waste of time...because what I'd be telling Bush, would be nothing he didn't know in 1990...which are the same things I knew, then and now. The difference between me and Bush and you evidently is principal. Knowing what I knew then and now, I wouldn't have engaged in the invasion in the first place. You see I was then and am now, well aware of the costs in lives, reputation and money of such a venture...So is and was Bush and his supporters, on both sides of the isle. The difference is, is that I care.

Oh and as to where I get my information....I get it from my Nephew who is serving as an Army first lieutenant in the country of Iraq. I don't get my information from those who "widely report".

Unnecessary death is not nuanced...it's real black and white if you have anything resembling a conscience or its your life or your families life on the line...but it isn't, is it...not yours or your families...your "nuanced" rational for war doesn't really effect you personally. You see, we ain't talking about cancer cells here....we're talking about human beings. I wonder when, if ever, this "Christian" country of ours will start behaving as Christ would. I won't hold my breath.

RC